What if our Universe is just some kind of game or experiment done by a superior being?

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Jeff7

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Heh, funny you mention that. Obviously other universes exist where basic causality doesn't... look at this thread!

Actually to be honest - who says we don't already have the technology to do so. Imagination, it's the only thing faster than the speed of light. It allows us to warp reality, and in fact also allows us to escape standard causality. Who's to say that our subconscious isn't tapping into these other universes when we "wander", our dreams for instance generally defy logic and causality. There is a hell of a lot more there than one might first think.
Imagination is the result of neurons doing their thing. The information from them cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Our brains aren't that damn special, we're just primates with freakishly large ones. By that reasoning, you might as well say that bacteria are delivering toxins into our bodies from the 42nd dimension when you're sick with an infection.

I can say in my mind that a chicken is a pencil, and I can say that that this is truth in a quasar 10 billion light years away. Has any information traveled 10 billion light years in a few seconds? None whatsoever. If chickens are pencils in that quasar, then it's mere coincidence that I conjured up that idea independently.

 

Arcadio

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: pontifex
ok...you'll be dead by then, so again, does it really matter?

and where exactly would we go? if this universe is a science experiment and we are just super tiny, where would we find anything similar to what we have now?
Assuming this Universe is NOT some experiment, and that it's a bubble of spacetime floating about in "something," then maybe after our technology's advanced another billion years or so, maybe we'll have found a way of breaking out of spacetime, and exploring whatever lies beyond it.
Would it be anything remotely similar to what we have now? Most certainly not. Hell, basic causality as we know it might not even be present.

That's exactly why I wish the Singularity would occur soon....
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: pontifex
ok...you'll be dead by then, so again, does it really matter?

and where exactly would we go? if this universe is a science experiment and we are just super tiny, where would we find anything similar to what we have now?
Assuming this Universe is NOT some experiment, and that it's a bubble of spacetime floating about in "something," then maybe after our technology's advanced another billion years or so, maybe we'll have found a way of breaking out of spacetime, and exploring whatever lies beyond it.
Would it be anything remotely similar to what we have now? Most certainly not. Hell, basic causality as we know it might not even be present.

That's exactly why I wish the Singularity would occur soon....

less then 3 years my friend
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: pontifex
ok...you'll be dead by then, so again, does it really matter?

and where exactly would we go? if this universe is a science experiment and we are just super tiny, where would we find anything similar to what we have now?
Assuming this Universe is NOT some experiment, and that it's a bubble of spacetime floating about in "something," then maybe after our technology's advanced another billion years or so, maybe we'll have found a way of breaking out of spacetime, and exploring whatever lies beyond it.
Would it be anything remotely similar to what we have now? Most certainly not. Hell, basic causality as we know it might not even be present.

That's exactly why I wish the Singularity would occur soon....

I'm a fan of the much less popular multiplarity.
 

Arcadio

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Jun 5, 2007
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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
so you mean we're just the result of a little bit of soda on top of a tooth?

More like:
SeaMen + SeaPeople = SeaCiety
Sea Monkeys 0_0

Seas and Desist.

I wonder would would win in a fight... pcslookout or Arcadio?

an intellectual fight? I would definitely win.
 

SunnyD

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Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Heh, funny you mention that. Obviously other universes exist where basic causality doesn't... look at this thread!

Actually to be honest - who says we don't already have the technology to do so. Imagination, it's the only thing faster than the speed of light. It allows us to warp reality, and in fact also allows us to escape standard causality. Who's to say that our subconscious isn't tapping into these other universes when we "wander", our dreams for instance generally defy logic and causality. There is a hell of a lot more there than one might first think.
Imagination is the result of neurons doing their thing. The information from them cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Our brains aren't that damn special, we're just primates with freakishly large ones. By that reasoning, you might as well say that bacteria are delivering toxins into our bodies from the 42nd dimension when you're sick with an infection.

I can say in my mind that a chicken is a pencil, and I can say that that this is truth in a quasar 10 billion light years away. Has any information traveled 10 billion light years in a few seconds? None whatsoever. If chickens are pencils in that quasar, then it's mere coincidence that I conjured up that idea independently.

Can you without a shadow of a doubt say any of that is not true, given the postulation of mutable realities elsewhere?

Coming back around to the thread... can you honestly say the subconscious does not actually glean information from elsewhere?

Coming back around to the general argument of creationism versus spontaneous existence and evolution... can you honestly say without any doubt whatsoever that one happened and the other didn't?

Just because 1 + 1 = 2 doesn't mean that is doesn't equal 3 somewhere else. There's nothing saying that your subconscious isn't capable of "learning externally", which would make coincidence something much more than just a coincidence.
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
What if our universe is just a science fair project created by some pimply teenage kid in a larger universe outside our own. Our universe might be 13 billion years old, but for this kid, the time elapsed might just be a week. This kid just wants to describe the development of intelligence and civilizations to classmates and teachers, and one day, after the science fair, the kid might just throw OUR UNIVERSE in a garbage can!! That would be the end of our universe!!!


Please see my sig ...
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
so you mean we're just the result of a little bit of soda on top of a tooth?

More like:
SeaMen + SeaPeople = SeaCiety
Sea Monkeys 0_0

Seas and Desist.

I wonder would would win in a fight... pcslookout or Arcadio?

an intellectual fight? I would definitely win.

How? You're unarmed.
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
so you mean we're just the result of a little bit of soda on top of a tooth?

More like:
SeaMen + SeaPeople = SeaCiety
Sea Monkeys 0_0

Seas and Desist.

I wonder would would win in a fight... pcslookout or Arcadio?

an intellectual fight? I would definitely win.

How? You're unarmed.

:laugh:
 

Analog

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Jan 7, 2002
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old topic, but fun to revisit.

Also, the creator may be able to freeze time and analyze the simulation, but we would never know it happened. What if his simulation re-booted?
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
This kid just wants to describe the development of intelligence and civilizations to classmates and teachers, and one day, after the science fair, the kid might just throw OUR UNIVERSE in a garbage can!!

THE UNIVERSE (<---- In caps, so you know it's important) answers Arcadio: I'm not YOUR UNIVERSE, buddy.


 

sash1

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Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Perknose

THE UNIVERSE (<---- In caps, so you know it's important) answers Arcadio: I'm not YOUR UNIVERSE, buddy.

I'm not your buddy, guy!
 

Arcadio

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Jun 5, 2007
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Originally posted by: Analog
old topic, but fun to revisit.

Also, the creator may be able to freeze time and analyze the simulation, but we would never know it happened. What if his simulation re-booted?

What if the simulation started 5 minutes ago and we were fed our brains with information that makes us believe the Universe started 13 billion years ago. Our universe could be 5 minutes old!!!
 

MotF Bane

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Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Analog
old topic, but fun to revisit.

Also, the creator may be able to freeze time and analyze the simulation, but we would never know it happened. What if his simulation re-booted?

What if the simulation started 5 minutes ago and we were fed our brains with information that makes us believe the Universe started 13 billion years ago. Our universe could be 5 minutes old!!!

What are you smoking?
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: rasczak
quit while your ahead. just go back to your desk, turn on youporn and forget all of this other crap. otherwise, some otherwordly being is going to use your anus as a satelite dish.

Wow!!! Youporn is amazing! Thanks for telling me about it! I just dumped my girlfriend, quit my job and ordered in!