ha ha, my manager would most likely punish the person who brought this to her attention over that of the one using the language
Geekbabe
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I respectfully disagree,it's not her place to manage the behavior of peers.What needs to happen is that the boss needs to remind all employees of the company policy regarding acceptable behaviors in the workplace, a memo or bringing the subject up at staff meeting without singling any one person out.
It's been my experience in companies where workers are using openly profane language that other professional behaviors are also slipping, sloppy dress,eating and drinking in inappropriate areas,discourtesy to other departments,poor telephone manners etc. When professionalism is allowed to slip too far below certain levels burnout and poor morale are sure to follow.
wtf.. grow up.
Unless he's saying it in front of customers or clients, get over it. I'm not sure what you find offensive about it, its just another word. As long as hes not cursing you or someone else out, what is the big deal?
Is there really a difference between him mumbling "******" or "shucks" under his breath when he is frustrated?
Unless he's saying it in front of customers or clients, get over it. I'm not sure what you find offensive about it, its just another word. As long as hes not cursing you or someone else out, what is the big deal?
Is there really a difference between him mumbling "******" or "shucks" under his breath when he is frustrated?
daniel1113
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Holy f*cking sh*t! Are people really this sheltered? If you don't like swearing, for whatever crap societal reason, then don't swear. But don't try and regulate the language of others. After all, they?re only words.
Hey Frustrated,
I wish I could say we were, but we just filled our last FTE last year, sucks because we are going through a good deal of site growth and they expect IT to just deal...hopefully our director can petition for more heads but if we keep reorging she might bail...
I gotta say, for all the complaining I do about work and getting my behind kicked there daily, it is a fun and crazy place...really wouldn't figure it given the industry and the size of the company, but this is the second large company I have worked for in this industry that was "cool"....
the award thing is hillarious...we also ordered all of these foam cubes to promote the helpdesk and we were known for having crazy cube fights in our area...
Geekbabe
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It's called boundaries..we act a certain way while out drinking with our buddies,another way while we're home in front of the tv and still another way while we are at work.And öh shiat" that slips out inadvertantly when you get a paper cut is a lot different than regular use of the F word in a professional setting.
thanks for the sharing. a lot more to learn...
q]Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
YYour 30, just tell him you don't like it. What's he going to do, report you for requesting he stop saying F***?
AS for professionalism, your bst off ignoring him. AS long as he doesn't swear in front of clients, it's not an issue and fairly common place to run into these people on occasion. I do, all the time but not till I know the people around me are comfortable with it.
I've had my slips and some embarrising ... never with a client near and usually in part due to a combo of to much caffiene and lack of sleep the previous night.
Anyways ... let it slide if you can, but don't be afraid to tell him to his face. That is the first step. NEVER go to higher-ups before talking to the person directly. This is common curtosy.[/quote]
q]Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
YYour 30, just tell him you don't like it. What's he going to do, report you for requesting he stop saying F***?
AS for professionalism, your bst off ignoring him. AS long as he doesn't swear in front of clients, it's not an issue and fairly common place to run into these people on occasion. I do, all the time but not till I know the people around me are comfortable with it.
I've had my slips and some embarrising ... never with a client near and usually in part due to a combo of to much caffiene and lack of sleep the previous night.
Anyways ... let it slide if you can, but don't be afraid to tell him to his face. That is the first step. NEVER go to higher-ups before talking to the person directly. This is common curtosy.[/quote]
It can depend. I used to work with a lot of different clients. You just have to learn each one of them. Some of them will cuss up a storm with you, others you wouldn't want to say anything like that in front of.
SmoochyTX
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Respectfully, what AgaBoogaBoo said makes more sense. If the fresh young thang OP doesn't like her co-worker's language, she should talk to him about it first.
But let's be real. If some young 20-something came into our office trying to control other co-workers' language just because she felt uncomfortable hearing a certain word, she'd be laughed out of the place. It's obvious from her post that this guy isn't cussing at her, he's cussing under his breath using the awful aforementioned 'f' word. She should say something to him about it before running to to her boss.
People cuss. If she can't handle it, maybe that's not the office for her to work in. Also, people cussing in an office has nothing to do with what they wear, their drinking Cokes in unapproved areas, or have any bearing on their telephone etiquette.
Of course another option is for her to grow a thicker skin. Respectfully.
I still dont get it. If anything, it makes me feel MORE comfortable when I hear my co-workers and superiors swear when they are frustrated. It just makes me feel that it is such a more open environment.
IAteYourMother
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Unprofessional, but common in the workplace. I make a point to not cuss at work. I actually try not to cuss much at all.
Sounds good but I think I'll stay with the government R&D job. Lot's of complaining but I work with cool people so it makes it f****** worth it anyway.
******-A.
Geekbabe
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[/quote]
it's not your job to tell this guy anything,you are his work peer,not his boss,he might stammer out an apology in front of your face but he'll resent you for it...I'd go the route of bringing up the topic of professionalism and company policy regarding workplace behaviors/courtesy.If it comes from the boss as a generic reminder to all,it'll go over a lot better.It might also spur useful conversations about other behaviors ie
eople coming in late,leaving early,not finishing work,leaving messes in break areas etc.Professional standards for behavior is part of what makes the workplace tolerable.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
Respectfully, what AgaBoogaBoo said makes more sense. If the fresh young thang OP doesn't like her co-worker's language, she should talk to him about it first.
But let's be real. If some young 20-something came into our office trying to control other co-workers' language just because she felt uncomfortable hearing a certain word, she'd be laughed out of the place. It's obvious from her post that this guy isn't cussing at her, he's cussing under his breath using the awful aforementioned 'f' word. She should say something to him about it before running to to her boss.
People cuss. If she can't handle it, maybe that's not the office for her to work in. Also, people cussing in an office has nothing to do with what they wear, their drinking Cokes in unapproved areas, or have any bearing on their telephone etiquette.
Of course another option is for her to grow a thicker skin. Respectfully.
It's been my experience that people who lack the level of control needed to avoid the use of the F word in an office most generally also lack enough control to avoid engaging in other inconsiderate non-professional behaviors.
it's not your job to tell this guy anything,you are his work peer,not his boss,he might stammer out an apology in front of your face but he'll resent you for it...I'd go the route of bringing up the topic of professionalism and company policy regarding workplace behaviors/courtesy.If it comes from the boss as a generic reminder to all,it'll go over a lot better.It might also spur useful conversations about other behaviors ie
eople coming in late,leaving early,not finishing work,leaving messes in break areas etc.Professional standards for behavior is part of what makes the workplace tolerable.
[/quote]
If we had rules like that I'd quit. The relaxed open environment makes me go to work.
I say 'fuck' in meetings too... but more often it's replaced with 'fricken' and also often used together with 'idiot' or 'idiots'. That's when referring to our European colleagues. LOL
it's not your job to tell this guy anything,you are his work peer,not his boss,he might stammer out an apology in front of your face but he'll resent you for it...I'd go the route of bringing up the topic of professionalism and company policy regarding workplace behaviors/courtesy.If it comes from the boss as a generic reminder to all,it'll go over a lot better.It might also spur useful conversations about other behaviors ie
eople coming in late,leaving early,not finishing work,leaving messes in break areas etc.Professional standards for behavior is part of what makes the workplace tolerable.
[/quote]
you sound like a nazi
I guess our practice of lunchtime nerf-gun warfare in the cubicles would be frowned upon as well.
if he is not directing the f-word at anyone in particular, I don't see what's the big deal here. granted, it is a little unprofessional, but I'm not sure if making a big deal out of it is the best approach.
It's one of those things that I'd be ok leaving it alone, but if pressed to say one way or the other, I'd have to say that it's unprofessional and it needs to stop. Talk to your manager.
Geekbabe
Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
it's not your job to tell this guy anything,you are his work peer,not his boss,he might stammer out an apology in front of your face but he'll resent you for it...I'd go the route of bringing up the topic of professionalism and company policy regarding workplace behaviors/courtesy.If it comes from the boss as a generic reminder to all,it'll go over a lot better.It might also spur useful conversations about other behaviors ie
Professional standards for behavior is part of what makes the workplace tolerable.
If we had rules like that I'd quit. The relaxed open environment makes me go to work.
I say ****** in meetings too... but more often it's replaced with 'fricken' and also often used together with 'idiot' or 'idiots'. That's when referring to our European colleagues. LOL[/quote]
knowing what is tolerated and what is not is actually quite comforting, our company policy and corp culture mandates specific attitudes regarding dress,demeanor and language,we are to treat each other with as much respect as we do our patients/clients.
Clear boundaries make work more relaxed,we have enough job stress as it is without adding to it ourselves.
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