Of course, reports out of Afghanistan suggest that Afghanistan still has its share of major problems. Most notably, warlords taking controls of large parts of the country and rampant discrimination and abuse of women.
Of course, the country is not as bad off as it was under the Taliban, and Bush was right to go in... he just didn't do a very good job over there either.
Stunt
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I hear Afganistan's booming Opium production is the backbone of the economy. It's no wonder warloards have so much power, this is usually the case in a democracy, the people with the money run the show. Glad to see the taliban gone for sure, i wish the Afgan's could do more with regards to this power struggle.
Until the truth come out, and it will eventually. Everyone knows about the playboy squadron and why it was created. That's why so many fled to Canada, they weren't "fortunate sons".
I sure see the irony of the situation, even if you don't or won't.
I was at Rapid City recently for my Aunt's 80th birthdayand you should have heard my Aunt and her daughter telling everyone how the closing of Ellsworth won't really have much of an effect on the economy out there.
They, well as far as that goes everybody in my family except me, are staunch Republicans. They both worked hard for Thunes campaign out in that area. As a matter of fact, Thune offered my cousin a job on his staff in D.C. Now their doing damage control for him, LOL.
Taunt me about Daschle all you like. I never liked him, but I think SD was stupid not to re-elect him because of his senority and the committes he was on. I least I'm not apologizing for Thune/Bush.
Ho!! Exactly.
And who WOULDN'T want to fly fighter jets (especially knowing that you wouldn't ever have to see real combat, as Bush knew, and explicity stated that he didn't want to be deployed over seas when he signed up).
Bush scored the lowest he possibly could to even qualify to fly. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if he scored lower and was bumped up to qualify. He's clearly NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.
Bush is the most heinous and reprehensible lying scum that has ever disgraced the White House. He WILL go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever, and MAY (and certainly should) go down in history as the FIRST president ever to be sent to prison.
Cerb
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With birth defects and lukemia(sp) on the rise, and with thousands dead. Yay.
This is one of the worst acts ever to come down the pipe since the national DoE was created. It is made for recruiters and number-crunchers. Standardized tests are emphasized, making conplying with it a nightmare to creative kids. Rather than apply BS like the NCLB act, Congress should have taken money from the useless war, and put it towards art and music in primary schools. But hey, that would require money, time, and people to do it.
Yes, because we are currently occupying Saudi Arabia, where the terrorists that made it came from...right?
OK, except that that doesn't really matter. The USSC has more power, really
. Not that I disagree, but that action really mans nothing outside of the PR machine.
Sheik Yerbouti
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He's divided the country very deeply, nearly as deeply divided as it was during the civil war. The mentality of you're either with us or you're against us has hurt this nation. We are more polarized, the deep gap between rich and poor is hurting the working class, middle class and working poor. I hope this smacktard of a president does get impeached, does actually have to be held accountable for the lies that led up to the war in Iraq. Too many died for his lies.
Now that is just an insane statement.
The media has divided the country. However, the division is no more than it ever has. I remember during the days of Reagan than the lefties and loonies used to rehash these same arguments.
Trust me, this cycle just repeats over and over and over. Whatever side is not in power will always be pissed about it. However, whenever a Republican is in power, the noise is amplified because the media also joins in on the bashing making morons in the left actually think that they are more than 12% of the population.
You are not. The left is the most endangered animal in the political spectrum. Ranting and raving like this does nothing for your future.
Maybe he should be worrying about accountability in relation to his foreign policy and the image of the United States of America abroad instead of the 'very liberal teachers union' in his own country.
AnyMal
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My question still stands. Why Bush served in the first place? I am sure it wouldn't be too hard for daddy to pull strings and get him out. Who from his unit was deployed to Vietnam?
Nobody gives a crap what his score was, he qualified and it's all that matters. Something, I seriously doubt you could have done yourself.
He made a bunch of lefies cry their hearts out for terrorists that want nothing more than to kill everyone in America. He also let people see that we were more than willing to come and blow them up. Carter let terrorists do whatever they want and they kept doing it because their people were not dying. If you attack the USA you just might be bombed into oblivion. I personally think Bush was too nice to these terrorists, and thugs. He made the war too easy on the people. We should have carpet bombed bagdad till there was not one birck left standing.
You and I obviously can't.
We would both say the budget the democrats wrote and Bush approved is much too high.
I would say the 50% increase in the education spending and over 40% increase for HRS (medicare, welfare, education, etc.) is too much you would say it is not enough. Even though you just agreed it was too much.
You would still raise taxes on everyone to increase spending then bemoan the fact that it was not enough and too much at the same time.
Thus, since NOTHING any conservative does you would agree with even though you hold the same ideals, you and I can never agree.
Luckily, since the first year of President Clinton's term of office more Democrats disagree with your opinions and have helped eliminate 60 years of control in the House and Senate and given control to the Republicans.
Of course, due to walk outs, filibusters, etc. and worse.... Bush not vetoing anything... the Democrats are still pretty much in control.
BTW, 9-11 was the direct result of Clinton not acting and Bush not having anything in his term to act upon. Bush could not just go after the terrorists because people such as yourself opposed such actions before 9-11 and even after. Even Clinton confesses that the reason he didn't take Osama bin Laden into custody was that he did not have the support of his constituents.
Only good thing was Afganistan. It was already in a civil war state, and basically the US helped the northers coalition win the war.
Saddam no more there also is good, but not when you consider the way it was removed. If they really wanted Saddam out of business, a special operation to remove him would have been sufficient. Of course the Iraqi war made for geopolitical reasons, not to remove a dictator. Also the way the war was conducted was very poor, and the scandals of Abu-Ghraib, Falluja etc etc will damage the US image in the long term.
Saddam no more there also is good, but not when you consider the way it was removed. If they really wanted Saddam out of business, a special operation to remove him would have been sufficient. Of course the Iraqi war made for geopolitical reasons, not to remove a dictator. Also the way the war was conducted was very poor, and the scandals of Abu-Ghraib, Falluja etc etc will damage the US image in the long term.
IHateMyJob2004
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Top ten good things from the neo-Bush Empire:
1. Has raised awareness through incompetence of the fact that us federal elections are fixed and the votes aren't counted.
2. Because he hasn't raised corporate average fuel economy standards, I'm going to make a fortune in renewable energy stocks when the gas prices
really start to ramp up.
3. One really good thing he's been doing is filling the national oil reserve. Since oil prices are going to spike higher every winter, this is just good planning.
Seriously if the feds invest enough in oil reserves and convert all government vehicles to run from ethanol, this could totally end up paying off the debt.
4. The military is working on photovolataic tents. Not really because of bush but at least it's something good he hasn't stopped the government from doing.
5. By attacking a country that was no danger to us in any way and had not threatened the US, he has alerted the rest of the world to the danger of the US Empire.
6. He has thus far been successful in repelling the extraterrestrial invasion. That assumes that such an invasion is taking place, but can you think of any other
explanation as to why we spend more money on the military than the rest of the world combined? Therefore good job sticking it to ET, Dubya.
7. He has made the book 1984 meaningful to the modern world again, and more realistic than ever before.
8. He hasn't entirely eliminated food stamps.
9. Getting rid of the Taliban would have been good, except who is running afghanistan now? Too bad it was all a ploy for corporate profit rather
than an actual interest in human rights or relief of suffering.
10. It was really mature of him to apologize to Iraq for invading, and pay restitution to all the families who have sufferred loss from the war.
It takes a real man/woman to admit to a big mistake that got lots of people killed. Did you all catch that on CNN?
As for NCLB, it doesn't introduce standards so much as it takes funding away from education and gives it to standardized testing programs. No positive side at all.
If you think NCLB introduces accountability, think again. No NCLB tests have in any way been correllated with future career success.
1. Has raised awareness through incompetence of the fact that us federal elections are fixed and the votes aren't counted.
2. Because he hasn't raised corporate average fuel economy standards, I'm going to make a fortune in renewable energy stocks when the gas prices
really start to ramp up.
3. One really good thing he's been doing is filling the national oil reserve. Since oil prices are going to spike higher every winter, this is just good planning.
Seriously if the feds invest enough in oil reserves and convert all government vehicles to run from ethanol, this could totally end up paying off the debt.
4. The military is working on photovolataic tents. Not really because of bush but at least it's something good he hasn't stopped the government from doing.
5. By attacking a country that was no danger to us in any way and had not threatened the US, he has alerted the rest of the world to the danger of the US Empire.
6. He has thus far been successful in repelling the extraterrestrial invasion. That assumes that such an invasion is taking place, but can you think of any other
explanation as to why we spend more money on the military than the rest of the world combined? Therefore good job sticking it to ET, Dubya.
7. He has made the book 1984 meaningful to the modern world again, and more realistic than ever before.
8. He hasn't entirely eliminated food stamps.
9. Getting rid of the Taliban would have been good, except who is running afghanistan now? Too bad it was all a ploy for corporate profit rather
than an actual interest in human rights or relief of suffering.
10. It was really mature of him to apologize to Iraq for invading, and pay restitution to all the families who have sufferred loss from the war.
It takes a real man/woman to admit to a big mistake that got lots of people killed. Did you all catch that on CNN?
As for NCLB, it doesn't introduce standards so much as it takes funding away from education and gives it to standardized testing programs. No positive side at all.
If you think NCLB introduces accountability, think again. No NCLB tests have in any way been correllated with future career success.
The President doesn't control the media. The media controls those that listen religously to it. If you don't want to feel divided stop listening to them.
The only division I see is from a few radicals. Some, however, are very powerful. George Soros has destroyed nations and tried to bring down the U.S. in 2004.
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