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Harvey

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Bushwhacko's most significant accomplishment is that he has set an all time reference standard as an example of corruption, stupidity, malevolence and outright abuse of power by an American President. He is the gold standard of what any politician could and should never be allowed to become. :|
 

Steeplerot

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I got one, Whoever the guy in china who makes the cheap "support the troops" faux patriot magnets for cars is making a killing!

Now that progress, err for the commies.
 

Glpster

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
some of his judicial appointments that were recently confirmed are good news

Oh right! His anti Constitution, anti average American, anti environment, pro wealthy corporate fat cats, pro fundamentalist religious views trump thought and reason, judicial nominees.

YEAH! That's GREAT news. :roll:

 

Riprorin

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He successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
 

Glpster

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
He successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

LOL!!!!!

Oh the ignorance.

Edit: Al Queda is still going strong. It's leader and architect of 9/11 is still on the loose. The Iraq war was a sham, has weakened our nation, and was an international crime. The Iraqi people (who haven't been brutaly slaughtered), are significantly worse off, and stand to fall into devastating civil war and/or under a fundamentalist regime.

And by-the-way, those brutally slaughtered people include (who many seem to forget), the thousands of Iraqi soldiers that were defending their homeland from who most Iraqi people consider to be an evil invader. They were NOT in the wrong to take up arms against us, regardless of Hussein being their leader.

Hey I could not despise the evil piece of crap infesting the White House, George horrific piece of scum Bush, any more. He is the most significant danger and threat to me, my family, my community, my nation, my freedom, my liberty, my safety, my environment, and my planet. Easily one of the worst threats in the history of the nation. I will be the FIRST to throw a massive party the minute he is impeached, imprisoned, executed, or assasinated. If he ever crosses my path, I will not hesitate to bury my fist DEEP into his face for the extrodinarily evil attrocities he has committed.

HOWEVER, should some foreign nation (say China) decide that they fully agree that Bush is a horror and danger, and chooses to premptively invade our nation (for their own safety and to SAVE me and the rest of America from the terror of George W. Bush), killing my friends, my family, my country men, our soldiers who are defending our sovereignty and president (as disgusting as he may be), I would ALSO be one of the first to take up arms to kill as many of those invaders and push them out of our country.

So, as tragic as it is that Iraqi insurgents are killing MY fellow country men and women because of Bush's evil folly. They are not in the wrong. WE are invading their nation, against the will of the people in that nation. They HATE us. They love their family, friends, and countrymen, who may be part of the insurgency. No legitimate government there will be friendly to the United States. We have just slaughtered, without cause or provocation, TENS of thousands of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, grandmothers, grandfathers, grandchildren, and numerous other family, friends, loved ones, and countrymen. They have every reason to despise our nation

Sadly the ignorance of people like yourself, believed the propganda that "my WE our so loved around the world, everyone understands that WE are the most moral, ethical, wonderful, always right, beautiful nation EVER, that those Iraqi's just can't WAIT for us to invade their nation to get rid of Hussein (who we created), so that they can greet us with flowers, chocolates, kisses, and hugs."

 

Riprorin

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Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.

 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: russianpower
Originally posted by: shira
Terrorism?

What has Bush accomplished, really? Clinton had a MUCH better record of "protecting" America (after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there wasn't another terrorist act in the US until 2001 -- 8 years of "safety" versus Bush's 3 1/2)..............
So because there wasn't another terrorist act in the US after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, that makes Clinton's policy on terrorism better/more effective than Bush's? I fail to see the logic here. :confused: Ex: Just because I can't see radio waves, they're not there or are not anymore.)Just because there wasn't a terrorist act during Clinton's final years in office, doesn't mean that terrorists didn't want to bomb America anymore or that the terrorist threat was prevented.

You Bushies are truly insane. Clinton did what he could given the circumstances. Ever heard of Richard Clark. If not, you should probably look into it and see what he has to say about clinton v bush.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
One of the few times you'll ever see me agreeing with Riprorin. :) Kudos for this to President Bush. Can't say I care for 99.8% of his domestic policies though.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
One of the few times you'll ever see me agreeing with Riprorin. :) Kudos for this to President Bush. Can't say I care for 99.8% of his domestic policies though.

What about all the other Dictatorships in the world even worse than Saddam and his sons?

Oh that's right, no oil in those Countries.

 

yllus

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
One of the few times you'll ever see me agreeing with Riprorin. :) Kudos for this to President Bush. Can't say I care for 99.8% of his domestic policies though.
What about all the other Dictatorships in the world even worse than Saddam and his sons?

Oh that's right, no oil in those Countries.
Okay, name the target and let's get to it. :)
 

nergee

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.


...I'll agree with you here.....Saddam out of the picture is a good thing......................
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What has Bush accomplished, really? Clinton had a MUCH better record of "protecting" America (after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there wasn't another terrorist act in the US until 2001 -- 8 years of "safety" versus Bush's 3 1/2). And Bush propelled us into a war we all wish we'd never begun (if you could snap your fingers and magically transform Iraq into its pre- March, 2003 self, would you REALLY choose the situation today?) There have been numerous reports on the Taliban's remarkable recovery since our invasion of Afghanistan. Worldwide, the number of terrorist acts has increased sharply since 9/11. So really, what has Bush actually accomplished.

WTC - 1993
Africa Embassy Bombings
Kholbar Towers
Oklahoma City
Plans for 9-11 were laid starting in 1997 under his term.

Clinton did squat to answer any of these. He tried to label groups he disagreed with at home as outlaws due to Oklahoma City, typical scapegoating.

Read the 9-11 commish report and watch the incompetence of his administration the people below him. I cant blame him fully for any of it as he had some real pieces of work below him.

Worst deficits in history. All of the major markets are at or below where they were when Bush came into office. Bush has the worst record of job growth since World War II.

You are confusing deficit budget spending on the part of the federal govt and economy.

Here is the information from 2001-2004 for Bush in terms of gdp growth.

01-.8%
02-1.9%
03- 3.0%
04- 4.4%

Clintons

93-2.7
94-4.0
95-2.5
96-3.7

93 and 01 were largely out of both presidents hand in terms of what they could do.

The economy as a whole has been pretty resiliant considering what happened in 01. The beginning of the recession and 9-11.

The job growth is a worthless argument because Bush inherited an unrealistic job market. We were basically at full employment and you get do much better than that.

After years of steady improvement, the nation's water and air pollution now are getting worse under Bush's tenure, according to the government's own data. Hundreds of environmental laws have been re-crafted to loosen restrictions on business vis-a-vis the environment.

Either you want a pristine enviornment with job loss or a less pristine envrionment and a better job creation atmosphere.

If you dont like it move to Mexico where every factory dumps their waste right into the river.

Please explain how in any pratical sense Bush has improved values in the U.S. If anything, the discourse is much more polarized and people are far less respectful of each other's views. We don't have dialog any longer, we have verbal warfare. If you look back at past presidencies, you don't see anything remotely like the venom we see today.

The polarization of America has more to do with the fanatical left in this country.

Bush tries to reach across the aisle for SS reform and all he gets in a big fat "No"? This has been the SOP for the left since the day he took office.

If people arent willing to do anything then there is only so much you can do.

The left cant stand the fact he has beat them twice and will stop at nothing to keep him from doing anything. Lets not act like this is all on Bush's shoulders.


I'm glad a conservative has stood up and said that Bush has accomplished nothing. :thumbsup:
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: shira
Terrorism?

What has Bush accomplished, really? Clinton had a MUCH better record of "protecting" America (after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there wasn't another terrorist act in the US until 2001 -- 8 years of "safety" versus Bush's 3 1/2). And Bush propelled us into a war we all wish we'd never begun (if you could snap your fingers and magically transform Iraq into its pre- March, 2003 self, would you REALLY choose the situation today?) There have been numerous reports on the Taliban's remarkable recovery since our invasion of Afghanistan. Worldwide, the number of terrorist acts has increased sharply since 9/11. So really, what has Bush actually accomplished.


The economy?

Worst deficits in history. All of the major markets are at or below where they were when Bush came into office. Bush has the worst record of job growth since World War II.


The environment?

After years of steady improvement, the nation's water and air pollution now are getting worse under Bush's tenure, according to the government's own data. Hundreds of environmental laws have been re-crafted to loosen restrictions on business vis-a-vis the environment.


"Values?"

Please explain how in any pratical sense Bush has improved values in the U.S. If anything, the discourse is much more polarized and people are far less respectful of each other's views. We don't have dialog any longer, we have verbal warfare. If you look back at past presidencies, you don't see anything remotely like the venom we see today.


Please, please, name SOMETHING we can all agree Bush has done well.

Heh, depending on who you talk to. People like Bill Gate who owns tons of stock got millions from the dividend tax cut. People with stakes in the defense/construction industry, like Halliburton got tons of money from this war in Iraq. People with ties with oil/energy industry got tons of money from this high oil/energy prices.

If you say America is owned by the rich people, Bush sure made those rich people richer during his term, and so you can argue that he make America richer too. Who cares about those average Joe who joined the military and had to fight and die or get wounded in Iraq because of lack of body armor right? Who cares about those average American who lost jobs to outsourcing or have their social benefits reduced to pay for all the tax cuts and the war right? Yupe, as long as rich are really rich, and the average Joes are "spiritually rich" by listening to all those talk about Bush?s Christian value, everything is just fine and dandy.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What has Bush accomplished, really? Clinton had a MUCH better record of "protecting" America (after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there wasn't another terrorist act in the US until 2001 -- 8 years of "safety" versus Bush's 3 1/2). And Bush propelled us into a war we all wish we'd never begun (if you could snap your fingers and magically transform Iraq into its pre- March, 2003 self, would you REALLY choose the situation today?) There have been numerous reports on the Taliban's remarkable recovery since our invasion of Afghanistan. Worldwide, the number of terrorist acts has increased sharply since 9/11. So really, what has Bush actually accomplished.

WTC - 1993
Africa Embassy Bombings
Kholbar Towers
Oklahoma City
Plans for 9-11 were laid starting in 1997 under his term.

Clinton did squat to answer any of these. He tried to label groups he disagreed with at home as outlaws due to Oklahoma City, typical scapegoating.

Read the 9-11 commish report and watch the incompetence of his administration the people below him. I cant blame him fully for any of it as he had some real pieces of work below him.

Worst deficits in history. All of the major markets are at or below where they were when Bush came into office. Bush has the worst record of job growth since World War II.

You are confusing deficit budget spending on the part of the federal govt and economy.

Here is the information from 2001-2004 for Bush in terms of gdp growth.

01-.8%
02-1.9%
03- 3.0%
04- 4.4%

Clintons

93-2.7
94-4.0
95-2.5
96-3.7

93 and 01 were largely out of both presidents hand in terms of what they could do.

The economy as a whole has been pretty resiliant considering what happened in 01. The beginning of the recession and 9-11.

The job growth is a worthless argument because Bush inherited an unrealistic job market. We were basically at full employment and you get do much better than that.

After years of steady improvement, the nation's water and air pollution now are getting worse under Bush's tenure, according to the government's own data. Hundreds of environmental laws have been re-crafted to loosen restrictions on business vis-a-vis the environment.

Either you want a pristine enviornment with job loss or a less pristine envrionment and a better job creation atmosphere.

If you dont like it move to Mexico where every factory dumps their waste right into the river.

Please explain how in any pratical sense Bush has improved values in the U.S. If anything, the discourse is much more polarized and people are far less respectful of each other's views. We don't have dialog any longer, we have verbal warfare. If you look back at past presidencies, you don't see anything remotely like the venom we see today.

The polarization of America has more to do with the fanatical left in this country.

Bush tries to reach across the aisle for SS reform and all he gets in a big fat "No"? This has been the SOP for the left since the day he took office.

If people arent willing to do anything then there is only so much you can do.

The left cant stand the fact he has beat them twice and will stop at nothing to keep him from doing anything. Lets not act like this is all on Bush's shoulders.

Americans are being attacked more everyday under Bush then they were for the entire 8 years of Clinton. Under Clinton a number of attacks were thwarted and there was the knowledge that a 9/11 type attack was imminent.
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Glpster
Originally posted by: Riprorin
He successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

LOL!!!!!

Oh the ignorance.

Edit: Al Queda is still going strong. It's leader and architect of 9/11 is still on the loose. The Iraq war was a sham, has weakened our nation, and was an international crime. The Iraqi people (who haven't been brutaly slaughtered), are significantly worse off, and stand to fall into devastating civil war and/or under a fundamentalist regime.

And by-the-way, those brutally slaughtered people include (who many seem to forget), the thousands of Iraqi soldiers that were defending their homeland from who most Iraqi people consider to be an evil invader. They were NOT in the wrong to take up arms against us, regardless of Hussein being their leader.

Hey I could not despise the evil piece of crap infesting the White House, George horrific piece of scum Bush, any more. He is the most significant danger and threat to me, my family, my community, my nation, my freedom, my liberty, my safety, my environment, and my planet. Easily one of the worst threats in the history of the nation. I will be the FIRST to throw a massive party the minute he is impeached, imprisoned, executed, or assasinated. If he ever crosses my path, I will not hesitate to bury my fist DEEP into his face for the extrodinarily evil attrocities he has committed.

HOWEVER, should some foreign nation (say China) decide that they fully agree that Bush is a horror and danger, and chooses to premptively invade our nation (for their own safety and to SAVE me and the rest of America from the terror of George W. Bush), killing my friends, my family, my country men, our soldiers who are defending our sovereignty and president (as disgusting as he may be), I would ALSO be one of the first to take up arms to kill as many of those invaders and push them out of our country.

So, as tragic as it is that Iraqi insurgents are killing MY fellow country men and women because of Bush's evil folly. They are not in the wrong. WE are invading their nation, against the will of the people in that nation. They HATE us. They love their family, friends, and countrymen, who may be part of the insurgency. No legitimate government there will be friendly to the United States. We have just slaughtered, without cause or provocation, TENS of thousands of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, grandmothers, grandfathers, grandchildren, and numerous other family, friends, loved ones, and countrymen. They have every reason to despise our nation

Sadly the ignorance of people like yourself, believed the propganda that "my WE our so loved around the world, everyone understands that WE are the most moral, ethical, wonderful, always right, beautiful nation EVER, that those Iraqi's just can't WAIT for us to invade their nation to get rid of Hussein (who we created), so that they can greet us with flowers, chocolates, kisses, and hugs."

That was an excellent post. Everyone should read this.
 

AnyMal

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Yet another worthless troll thread by pissed off liberals. While Clinton done nothing as far as foreign policy, I'll just let you humor me a bit longer.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Yet another worthless troll thread by pissed off liberals. While Clinton done nothing as far as foreign policy, I'll just let you humor me a bit longer.

So you agree that Bush has accomplished nothing.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's another acomplishment:

Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.

The bad news is the newest american puppet to replace saddam is on the way...meet the new boss, same as the old boss.....
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Yet another worthless troll thread by pissed off liberals. While Clinton done nothing as far as foreign policy, I'll just let you humor me a bit longer.

So you agree that Bush has accomplished nothing.

When did I say that? Oh wait, I forgot where I am. Silly me.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
When did I say that? Oh wait, I forgot where I am. Silly me.

Maybe you could stop blabbering about sore loser liberals (which has nothing to do with the OP) and post what you think Bush has accomplished.
 

AnyMal

Lifer
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No, I'll let you all blabber a little longer before rehashing the obvious. Pissed off liberals amuse me.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
No, I'll let you all blabber a little longer before rehashing the obvious. Pissed off liberals amuse me.

I already listed what I thought he accomplished. Now it's your turn. Is it that you just want to troll or that you can't think of anything or that you are scared people will rip your claimed accomplishments apart?
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
No, I'll let you all blabber a little longer before rehashing the obvious. Pissed off liberals amuse me.




and blind partisans ignoring truth to gloat over corruption like a obstenent child is plain sad.... :cookie:
 

AnyMal

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Rip apart? Oh noooooo!!!! I am scared!!!!

My accomplishments? I wish I could claim the credit.