What happens when entitlements are cut?

[DesiPower]

I smell a new TV show!


Austerity winners club!

wow!! that a brilliant idea!

 

[theeedude]

In fact it would. The free market would eliminate him, as it should be.

Yes, free market will rid us of the undesirables. :thumbsup:

 

[ahurtt]

Yes, free market will rid us of the undesirables. :thumbsup:

It's not working We're all still here.

 

[Zebo]

Not a chance;

But it isn't him being taken care of that leads to the problem, it's Hacp's very reasonable question "where's my 700 quid for, basically, just wanting it".

In a well oiled worker's paradise you are no longer a valid part of the state if you are no longer a worker.

It's the only way a workers paradise "works." Fear of gulag keeps people working on the outside for the most part. Capitalism uses fear of poverty to do same. Both systems are doable.

What we have is a perversion of benefits without fear element and going bankrupted. The entire West is in same pickle and getting worse. We must have a work requirement for any benefits. A little more hard edge and realism or else we will all be broke.

 

[BoberFett]

Yes, free market will rid us of the undesirables. :thumbsup:

Glad to see you've come to your senses.

 

[child of wonder]

He mentioned at the end that he wishes he had never survived that operation. I wonder what he was referring to.

 

[Zebo]

As to OP if you wanna know what will really happen among people who can walk under their own power not disgusting fat bodies who would die in first hour go watch a few hours of LA riots on YouTube.

 

[JSt0rm]

In fact it would. The free market would eliminate him, as it should be.

free market death panels?

 

[BoberFett]

free market death panels?

Fail, as usual. The free market has no need for death panels. The undesirables weed themselves out by contributing nothing to society.

 

[JSt0rm]

Fail, as usual. The free market has no need for death panels. The undesirables weed themselves out by contributing nothing to society.

somebody must decide not to support the life of someone else. In this case it would be insurance companies.

This man has a medical condition yes? Would your free market let a quadriplegic die?

 

[highland145]

This man has a medical condition yes? Would your free market let a quadriplegic die?

I would gladly support a person unable to change their circumstances as opposed to this guy that 1. did it to himself and 2. now wants to sue. Screw him.

 

[matt0611]

somebody must decide not to support the life of someone else. In this case it would be insurance companies.

This man has a medical condition yes? Would your free market let a quadriplegic die?

Insurance companies are not there to "support" people. They are there to insure people.

If this guy cannot support himself by doing some type of work and his family or friends cannot or will not support him, or a charity or hospital or random people don't support him then theres nothing else to do. Don't come taking money from me to support him after he made poor choices.

If someone is born with a disability or gets disabled by circumstances in which he cannot control than theres what I said above plus I have no problem with a modest government support system for those people.

 

[Genx87]

Free market's gonna take care of him.

Free market will make him lose weight faster than any govt program. No money, no food, lose weight. This guy is a pile.

I love the description.

"Fatty is told his benefits are to be cut and he will now have to start wiping his own ass. "

 

[JSt0rm]

I would gladly support a person unable to change their circumstances as opposed to this guy that 1. did it to himself and 2. now wants to sue. Screw him.

Wait you dont know that. Some over weight people are over weight because of a actual medical condition that they dont have control over. Even if people are over weight because of mental disorders are you saying that we should ignore mental disorders? Kinda like the shooter from 2 weeks ago? Reagan stopped funding for mental disorders and thats where we are now, people dont see it as a medical problem because its in the mind. I would argue that is the worst kind of medical disorder.

 

[JSt0rm]

Insurance companies are not there to "support" people. They are there to insure people.

So they will decide if they can or cant support this man? So thats a death panel yes? Interesting that somehow a single payer health plan for the country would be the worst death panel scenario.

I find it interesting that republicans are bringing this issue up again. This gives the democrats round 2 in selling it to the american people. Something they didnt do as well at as the republicans did in fear mongering.

If this guy cannot support himself by doing some type of work and his family or friends cannot or will not support him, or a charity or hospital or random people don't support him then theres nothing else to do. Don't come taking money from me to support him after he made poor choices.

Interesting that those in need don't get that support but the bankers who also made poor decisions get all that they want. Why is that?

 

[Zebo]

somebody must decide not to support the life of someone else. In this case it would be insurance companies.

This man has a medical condition yes? Would your free market let a quadriplegic die?

As far as I am concerned the state is doing him no favors and worsening his "medical condition" with continued support. A cure which is always preferred would be Fat bodies need to be given no food just water and an IV of nutrients until they recover. Let body eat it's fat. The pain will be awful but maybe next time he'll think about stuffing his face with garbage.

 

[highland145]

Wait you dont know that. Some over weight people are over weight because of a actual medical condition that they dont have control over. Even if people are over weight because of mental disorders are you saying that we should ignore mental disorders? Kinda like the shooter from 2 weeks ago? Reagan stopped funding for mental disorders and thats where we are now, people dont see it as a medical problem because its in the mind. I would argue that is the worst kind of medical disorder.

wut?

which reached 20,000 calories a day

From my earlier post about him suing.

Put down the damn fork, dumb ass.

 

[JSt0rm]

As far as I am concerned the state is doing him no favors and worsening his "medical condition" with continued support. A cure which is always preferred would be Fat bodies need to be given no food just water and an IV of nutrients until they recover. Let body eat it's fat. The pain will be awful but maybe next time he'll think about stuffing his face with garbage.

I'm no nutrition expert but I dont think it works that way...

Did a little googling

"You have to remember that your brain needs glucose to survive. If you can't obtain it by dietary processes, either by direct ingestion of carbohydrates or by metabolism of protein, a portion of which converts to sugars, your brain will survive by converting bodily muscle tissue to glucose. It's not picky about the source of the protein, and the cardiac muscle is as available as any other muscle.

On a low calorie diet with sufficient carbohydrates or protein a fat person will live longer, but on a starvation diet, maybe not."

 

[JSt0rm]

wut?


From my earlier post about him suing.

Put down the damn fork, dumb ass.

As I said if you don't see mental issues as medical then we really cant discuss anything after that dividing point.

 

[matt0611]

So they will decide if they can or cant support this man? So thats a death panel yes? Interesting that somehow a single payer health plan for the country would be the worst death panel scenario.

I find it interesting that republicans are bringing this issue up again. This gives the democrats round 2 in selling it to the american people. Something they didnt do as well at as the republicans did in fear mongering.

Interesting that those in need don't get that support but the bankers who also made poor decisions get all that they want. Why is that?

And who supported the banks and bankers getting our money? Definitely not me...

 

[JSt0rm]

And who supported the banks and bankers getting our money? Definitely not me...

hey but they got it.

Let me ask you this...

Given a choice would you prefer the money go to bankers or morbidly obese people?

 

[Zebo]

Like I said a nutrion IV to get basics but otherwise starve him. No pain no gain with this medical condition. He is too fat to exercise but at 400lbs one could mix up walks with starvation diet. That the state just keeps feeding his gluttony and sloth is immoral IMO to him and tax payers.

 

[chucky2]

Bankers. Morbidly obese people serve even less purpose.

 

[JSt0rm]

Like I said a nutrion IV to get basics but otherwise starve him. No pain no gain with this medical condition. He is too fat to exercise but at 400lbs one could mix up walks with starvation diet. That the state just keeps feeding his gluttony and sloth is immoral IMO to him and tax payers.

I think the problem is that the body goes for the easiest energy first. This is the muscle - including the heart.

 

[CanOWorms]

The inbred royal family needs the State to pay for a massive wedding this Spring.

Gotta make some cuts somewhere. British peasants have been detained within their peasant-caste status for thousands of years. A morbidly obese one isn't going to be able to put up much of a fight.

God bless the Queen (and nobody else).