What happens when entitlements are cut?

Hacp

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Free market's gonna take care of him.

So he makes a personal choice to eat his butt off and be the fatty that he is and government rewards him with 700 pounds a week? Where is MY 700 pounds a week? Send a check to me ASAP, I could really use that money.
 

Dr. Zaus

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So he makes a personal choice to eat his butt off and be the fatty that he is and government rewards him with 700 pounds a week? Where is MY 700 pounds a week? Send a check to me ASAP, I could really use that money.

This is exactly how socialism and a social safety net devolves into communism.
 

trenchfoot

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Hmmmm......social welfare or corporate welfare.

I wonder what the Bush administration chose, and what the result of that was. Especially the part where he sends our troops off to war while he's trying really hard to severely cut back the very veteran's health benefits of those that he previously sent to Iraq, to help pay for the wars he started which created ever more veterans with physical and mental handicaps.

Not to mention the millions of jobs lost, the financial crisis that caused it and the resultant need to increase unemployment payouts and other entitlements because of the failed neocon ideology that rewarded the rich only of which Bush pursued with glee.

The little prick, via the people who voted for him, by his own accord created a vastly increased need for social services but refused to pay for it per the conservative ideology of trickle down economics.

Yeah, that worked out really well.

And here we are complaining how badly Obama is doing while completely ignoring how worse things could have been had he not directed resources where he did to fix what the repubs broke.
 
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Dr. Zaus

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.. by not spending in the particular places that you think the republicans should have they created a problem so big that in the first two years Obama had to spend more debt than bush did in his first seven years?


Interesting; could you go on?
 

Dr. Zaus

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You really think "communism" would keep him around?

Not a chance;

But it isn't him being taken care of that leads to the problem, it's Hacp's very reasonable question "where's my 700 quid for, basically, just wanting it".

In a well oiled worker's paradise you are no longer a valid part of the state if you are no longer a worker.
 

Infohawk

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Not a chance;

But it isn't him being taken care of that leads to the problem, it's Hacp's very reasonable question "where's my 700 quid for, basically, just wanting it".

In a well oiled worker's paradise you are no longer a valid part of the state if you are no longer a worker.

I think the communism in the Soviet Union would have been better for this guy. There wouldn't have been enough food around for him to get so fat. And if he were too much of an alcoholic they would send him to the gulag.

That communism wasn't like Senseamp's wet dream of an America where all immigrants immediately get free air conditioning and all fat people don't have to work.
 

highland145

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CycloWizard

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Personal freedom without accompanying personal responsibility leads us to this point. If you want freedom, you have to be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. The problem is that people want government to cover their responsibilities so they can be free to do whatever the hell they want, and that is not a sustainable model for anything.