What Happens When A Black Man And A White Man Try To Break Into The Same Car

[They Live]

We have a problem in this country. White Girl Bleed A Lot' should be required reading.

Now, my question is, does "White girl bleed a lot" detail all crimes against white people, or only strictly black on white crimes?

 

[SheHateMe]

Why do black people call each other Monica?

You can blame Vanessa Williams and Beyonce for that one, it's what a black friend calls the Albification of people of color. He's right.

Ya....the problem here is that there are plenty of black girls with long hair. Myself included. The problem is, some people automatically assume that your hair is fake or some shit.

White people want to touch my hair, black people want to know if its real or not.


Very interesting.

 

[emperus]

You can blame Vanessa Williams and Beyonce for that one, it's what a black friend calls the Albification of people of color. He's right.

You're right, but it even starts further back. The depiction of everything, things you take for granted, white dolls, if you watch a TV show or movie (up until recently), the black characters were usually the antagonists. All those things send very subtle messages.

The parents of brown skinned children have to be proactive about building and reinforcing their children's self esteem in who they are.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Now, my question is, does "White girl bleed a lot" detail all crimes against white people, or only strictly black on white crimes?

You should read it...you might learn something.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What is the difference between this and the definition of racism. Aren't you arguing that a race is predisposed to act a certain way and hence should be treated differently?

Current black culture breeds a hugely disproportionate number of thugs. I'm stating facts. How about you telling me the difference between this and racism.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Hmmm...

About a week ago I went to visit a friend and saw his daughter, I called her a princess like I normally do and she said she's not a princess. I asked why? She said her hair isn't long and nice and so she can't be a princess.

Imagine that, at 4 years old she has been already been socialized to see black features as not beautiful or worthy as white features. Now that's a 4 year old, what happens when she turns 15.

There structural issues just don't affect white people but black people as well.

I think we all have these biases and prejudices. Just hopefully as we get older we can acknowledge them so we won't be slaves to them.

Not that I believe your oh so typical "society hates black people" story, but if it is true then the fault is 100% with the poor 4 year old girl's parents.


It is not society's job to teach people they're beautiful. What about the ugly white girl? What about the chunky indian kid? This isn't a black/white situation. As a parent, it is your job to teach your child that what is on the inside counts most.


Instead, sounds like this little girl's parents taught her she is different. They taught her to identify these differences. And that is exactly what creates people like yourself, jking, classy, and the rest of the crew. It results in a person who looks to blame someone else... "society", or "xyz color"... rather than looking inward to improve themselves.


Sad. Such a sad situation, perpetuated by people such as yourself.

I really wish we could all move past this and get with modern times. It's not 1940's alabama... There is no systemic societal widespread racism. Yes, there are racists, of ALL colors, and no amount of the 'blame game' is going to change it one bit.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Current black culture breeds a hugely disproportionate number of thugs. I'm stating facts. How about you telling me the difference between this and racism.

But, how does pointing out those sort of statistics fix the problem?


This isn't something that's corrected by isolating a certain group of people and saying it's their problem. "Thug culture" is a society problem. It's my problem, it's your problem.

It's a culture issue. White people have thug problems too... I've met "redneck thugs".. "jersey shore thugs".... There are thug groups over in the UK...


The way to fix this is to look down upon and shun this thug culture rather than make excuses for it.

A perfect example of this happened in the trayvon thread... People making it out like stealing tens of thousands of dollars in gold and diamond jewelry, then trafficking it through the state is "normal teen behaviour".... People claiming that brutally assaulting an innocent bus driver is "normal teen behaviour".....

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You're right, but it even starts further back. The depiction of everything, things you take for granted, white dolls, if you watch a TV show or movie (up until recently), the black characters were usually the antagonists. All those things send very subtle messages.

The parents of brown skinned children have to be proactive about building and reinforcing their children's self esteem in who they are.

This is such an asinine, pathetic statement. Have you watched tv lately...?? We're talking for 30 years ++


Every major cable network is full of content that glamorizes everyone. "Black characters" are not the antagonists.... And it has not been this way for a LONG LONG time...

 

[emperus]

This is such an asinine, pathetic statement. Have you watched tv lately...?? We're talking for 30 years ++


Every major cable network is full of content that glamorizes everyone. "Black characters" are not the antagonists.... And it has not been this way for a LONG LONG time...

You have a remarkable ability not only to be un introspective but incapable of assimilating anything that varies from your own view point. I rarely respond to anything you write, as it's generally full of Crazy.

So, you are on record that in the 80's black people were not only represented on mainstream TV but represented as protagonists?

Ya.. Only in whatever delusional world you live in.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

But, how does pointing out those sort of statistics fix the problem?


This isn't something that's corrected by isolating a certain group of people and saying it's their problem. "Thug culture" is a society problem. It's my problem, it's your problem.

It's a culture issue. White people have thug problems too... I've met "redneck thugs".. "jersey shore thugs".... There are thug groups over in the UK...


The way to fix this is to look down upon and shun this thug culture rather than make excuses for it.

A perfect example of this happened in the trayvon thread... People making it out like stealing tens of thousands of dollars in gold and diamond jewelry, then trafficking it through the state is "normal teen behaviour".... People claiming that brutally assaulting an innocent bus driver is "normal teen behaviour".....

I think many don't care to hear the facts and will quickly rationalize them or attack a person as racist for bringing them to light. There is a huge problem with thugs in this country...unfortunately this highly destructive culture is prevalent in the black community and it's destroying the black community. I believe the sooner we can speak openly about the problem, the sooner we can talk about solutions. Unfortunately I don't think non-black people can help much. Blacks must find the solutions themselves if they are going to save their culture...and the sooner they start facing the facts, the sooner they stop the blame game and start taking ownership of their problems. The black community needs good leadership.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You have a remarkable ability not only to be un introspective but incapable of assimilating anything that varies from your own view point. I rarely respond to anything you write, as it's generally full of Crazy.

So, you are on record that in the 80's black people were not only represented on mainstream TV but represented as protagonists?

Ya.. Only in whatever delusional world you live in.

The 80's was an explosion of positive black television. You would have to be racially blinded to think otherwise.

A short list, just off the top of my head

the cosby show
fresh prince
a different world
sanford and son
the jeffersons
living single
fat albert
good times
different strokes
hanging with mr. cooper
family matters
steve harvey show
BET

 

[positivedoppler]

But, how does pointing out those sort of statistics fix the problem?


This isn't something that's corrected by isolating a certain group of people and saying it's their problem. "Thug culture" is a society problem. It's my problem, it's your problem.

It's a culture issue. White people have thug problems too... I've met "redneck thugs".. "jersey shore thugs".... There are thug groups over in the UK...


The way to fix this is to look down upon and shun this thug culture rather than make excuses for it.

A perfect example of this happened in the trayvon thread... People making it out like stealing tens of thousands of dollars in gold and diamond jewelry, then trafficking it through the state is "normal teen behaviour".... People claiming that brutally assaulting an innocent bus driver is "normal teen behaviour".....

The first step to fixing a problem is to realize that you have a problem. The people who need to realize this problem are the black people in leadership position. Just telling people don't be cautious around black people when overwhelming statistic says you should will not change people's perception of black people!

Step two
Leaders need to take action. They and parents need to preach to black youth, hey guys we have an image problem. Stop trying to dress gangsta and stop trying to act gangsta. No more wearing clothing 5 sizes up and sagging pants past your waistline. Let the other asian, white, latino, and plumbers gansta wannabes do that, but the African Community as a whole has a hundred year old crisis that needs to be addressed! I'm sorry but I don't see any other way to do this. Crying out to the other races to please don't judge black people has proven that it will not work. The only thing that will work is to reinvent the image in this country that black people are not dangerous! Don't believe me? Trying repeating the car and bike experiment with a black guy dressed in slack, sweater, and tie.

Step three.
Need to reach out for help. It is also true that a higher percentage of black people live in poverty. Poverty by itself is not the true problem here but the war on drug which has turn poor neighborhoods into breeding grounds for violence, crime, and gangs. End the war on drugs.

 

[Druidx]

I think most people are in agreement that there is still some racism in the world but to imply it’s anything like it was a generation ago is nothing more that self-serving dishonesty.

 

[positivedoppler]

I'm going to try and guess what goes on inside people's head.

Well dressed white guy trying to break into a car or steal a bike. Oh he must have lost his keys.

White guy dressed like a thug trying to do the same thing. Oh, he's just a gangster wanna be who lost his keys.


Well dressed black guy trying to break into a car or steal a bike. Oh he must have lost his keys.

Black guy dressed like a thug trying to do the same thing. OMG, actual gangster doing ganster stuff.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Ever watched that bait car shows? It may help provide some insight into why people are acting the way they do.

 

[cubby1223]

The first step to fixing a problem is to realize that you have a problem. The people who need to realize this problem are the black people in leadership position. Just telling people don't be cautious around black people when overwhelming statistic says you should will not change people's perception of black people!

Step two
Leaders need to take action. They and parents need to preach to black youth, hey guys we have an image problem. Stop trying to dress gangsta and stop trying to act gangsta. No more wearing clothing 5 sizes up and sagging pants past your waistline. Let the other asian, white, latino, and plumbers gansta wannabes do that, but the African Community as a whole has a hundred year old crisis that needs to be addressed! I'm sorry but I don't see any other way to do this. Crying out to the other races to please don't judge black people has proven that it will not work. The only thing that will work is to reinvent the image in this country that black people are not dangerous! Don't believe me? Trying repeating the car and bike experiment with a black guy dressed in slack, sweater, and tie.

Step three.
Need to reach out for help. It is also true that a higher percentage of black people live in poverty. Poverty by itself is not the true problem here but the war on drug which has turn poor neighborhoods into breeding grounds for violence, crime, and gangs. End the war on drugs.

Honestly, I think the first step is to get beyond the era of black leaders.

It'll take a leap of faith for some to believe going forward white people will not enslave black people again in this country, which I believe will not happen. There has to be a level of genuine trust between people. Then we shift the responsibility of bettering our lives not relying on leaders to shape the world to our benefit, but we all take that responsibility upon ourselves - because that is the way the world works.

I say this because the way this country is currently handling race relations, is not where it needs to be, change must happen, the Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's of the world have done what they can, it's time for a new direction.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

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So answer my question. Are black ladies racist??

Emp?

 

[Zorba]

ROFL please. One guy is unkempt, unshaven, nasty hair, and was wearing a hoodie on a bright sunny day.

Compared to the other guy who is wearing properly fitting clothing and has a kept up appearance.




Let's try this again, but with a messed up ivory kid with dreads, a hoodie, unshaven along with a burnt umber kid in a business suit.



I swear, the sooner you modern progressives stop hunting for racism everywhere you look the sooner we can move on as a society.

The fact you thought the black guy looked unkempt and like a thug, says a lot about you. This thread has brought out pretty much every person on the apologist side I'd expect to see here.

It is a sad fact of life that all people carry some prejudices, but it is just always blows my mind how the most racist people I know can sit there and tell me with a straight face they aren't racist and racism doesn't exist. And I am really starting to think that the word thug is starting to become just the new N-word.

 

[Nebor]

The fact you thought the black guy looked unkempt and like a thug, says a lot about you. This thread has brought out pretty much every person on the apologist side I'd expect to see here.

It is a sad fact of life that all people carry some prejudices, but it is just always blows my mind how the most racist people I know can sit there and tell me with a straight face they aren't racist and racism doesn't exist. And I am really starting to think that the word thug is starting to become just the new N-word.

I prefer "urban youth."

 

[SpatiallyAware]

The fact you thought the black guy looked unkempt and like a thug, says a lot about you. This thread has brought out pretty much every person on the apologist side I'd expect to see here.

It is a sad fact of life that all people carry some prejudices, but it is just always blows my mind how the most racist people I know can sit there and tell me with a straight face they aren't racist and racism doesn't exist. And I am really starting to think that the word thug is starting to become just the new N-word.

Where did I say that he looked like a thug? Quit trying to propagate racism.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

And note that you are the only one in this thread who associated thug with the burnt umber guy.

Yet you call others racist?


Typical modern progressive race brigadier..... You're so intent on identifying differences between people that you're blinded by your own racism.


Racism in the name of racism. :disgust;

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Plus, they start out with the ivory kid, he spends 20 minutes messing with the car. Likely people are already calling the cops.

Then they put the burnt umber kid in, right on queue as the cops show up to arrest the ivory kid.


Ivory kid acts like he's supposed to be there, doesn't look around, looks innocent.

Look, I'm not going to say there wasn't some type of racism or generalization, but if anyone denies these key facts your ignorance is insane.

Very well said Spatially.


Also, from what I noticed in the video there was an instant transition.

1. White guy is messing with the car: They show NOTHING but people that are walking by and doing their day-to-day business. I will admit regardless of whom is fucking with a car I'm just going to keep walking. I'm not putting myself in a situation regardless of whom it is. Most I would do is walk away and call the cops.

2. Black guy is messing with car: They show NOTHING but people that are ALREADY standing still (IE: People inside of restaurants, people hanging out by a door, etc...) At NO point does someone casually walking by (like in the white guy video) stop and confront the black man. Why? because they NEVER showed a casual person walking by.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I will absolutely state that racism exists.

But nowadays, it is pretty much equal across all races. There is no point in this emp, jking, classy, phokus mentality that there is some "war" that needs to be fought and won. That "war" largely ended in the mid 70's to 80's. Certainly by the 90's. We are a solid 30++ years past racism being accepted in mainstream society.

Yes, there are some diehard racists. Just like there are schizophrenics, bipolars, etc. And waging a "war" against it isn't going to change a thing in the minds of the elderly diehard racists. Just let them die out, and don't worry about the crazies leftover.

Instead, these 'race brigadiers' think the solution is teaching little 4 year old girls that they are different. That they are inferior, and need to look for ways in which they're being held back. These race brigadiers are actually creating a whole new era of racism... Look at the reactions on this very forum, the "public" lynchings that they have brought on... Purely for racist reasons. It's so sad to me, that we're still seeing this happening.


Here's what I want to know: emp, jking, classy, phokus, anyone else from the race brigadier crew... What exactly is your endgame?? Do you realize that mainstream society is not "racist"?? When can you comfortably walk down the street without thinking literally everyone is out to get you?

You think things like the video in the op helps end racism, and what you don't realize is that you're actually promoting it.

 

[MagickMan]

You have a remarkable ability not only to be un introspective but incapable of assimilating anything that varies from your own view point.

I had to stop there, the irony was too much to take in.

 

[emperus]

I had to stop there, the irony was too much to take in.

Irony? Pray tell.

Let me ask you, when you see a drunk hobo spurting nonsense do you sit and assimilate what he says? or do just nod your head and keep walking. I just keep walking.

And even more laughable, of all depolrable things in this thread, That is what you chose to spend ur energy on. I guess that's you cosigning Spatial et all.