What happens if you just eat bread? (2000 calories worth)

[JEDI]

was reading an article about an Arizona(?) sherriff feeding inmates just bread and water. (still happens in 2014 )

that got me thinking.

what happens if you just eat 2000 calories of just 1 item everyday for a yr?
(bread, banana, milk, M&Ms, potato chips, ribeyes, etc)

 

[Black Octagon]

Malnutrition?

 

[gdansk]

It'd be bad for you unless you're putting a lot of protein and vitamins in your bread.

 

[highland145]

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Please. Comments like that belong elsewhere.
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[MagnusTheBrewer]

A bread and water diet is not a punishment due to nutrition, it is a punishment due to constipation.

 

[tygeezy]

Well I am type 1 diabetic as of a month ago. Nothing but bread and water would be catastrophic for someone like me.

 

[highland145]

Well I am type 1 diabetic as of a month ago. Nothing but bread and water would be catastrophic for someone like me.

Don't get locked up. I've heard that the local jail food is super simple carbs.

 

[deadken]

Well I am type 1 diabetic as of a month ago. Nothing but bread and water would be catastrophic for someone like me.

Ummm... No you're not.

And to the OP: You get malnourished. You just won't lose weight since you are maintaining 2000 calories.

 

[tygeezy]

Ummm... No your not.

???? I wish I wasn't but unfortunately I am. Was diagnosed a month ago.

 

[deadken]

No, you're not. Type 1 diabetes is from birth. While, Type 2 is called Adult onset because it happens after you are older. Honestly, I thought that you'd know that. I thought that you had just made a type-o.

 

[tygeezy]

No, you're not. Type 1 diabetes is from birth. While, Type 2 is called Adult onset because it happens after you are older. Honestly, I thought that you'd know that. I thought that you just made a type-o.

This is completely wrong, anybody can get type 1. Type 2 diabetes is when your pancreas is producing insulin but your body is resistant to it. My pancreas isn't creating a lot of insulin because my immune system is attacking the beta cells which produce insulin. This is type 1 diabetes. It doesn't matter when you get it to determine the type.

Not sure if you are trolling or what but you are making yourself look like a fool calling me out like that.

 

[Raghu]

A bread and water diet is not a punishment due to nutrition, it is a punishment due to constipation.

Why would anyone be constipated on bread?!

 

[circusslaughter]

Umm you're going to probably feel very malnourished because there really isn't enough of anything in bread to survive on for long periods of time.

That's why, unfortunately, all those kids in those third world countries look as bad as they do. Lack of diet, could kill you in the end.

 

[deadken]

This is completely wrong, anybody can get type 1. Type 2 diabetes is when your pancreas is producing insulin but your body is resistant to it. My pancreas isn't creating a lot of insulin because my immune system is attacking the beta cells which produce insulin. This is type 1 diabetes. It doesn't matter when you get it to determine the type.

Not sure if you are trolling or what but you are making yourself look like a fool calling me out like that.

Relax dude. I'm not trying to 'call you out'. I'm okay with you thinking I look like a fool. It's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I'd like to suggest you take your ego out of the equation and engage in a conversation in which at the very least one of us will learn something today.

Now, back onto the subject at hand, I think one of us is confused as to the different types of Diabetes. I have a brother-in-law, a close friend, and my grandfather who have / had type 2 diabetes. I also have a close friend who has a son with type 1 diabetes. Now, from what I've been told, type 1 is when your body basically never produced insulin. And, type 2 is when you stopped producing enough or when your body becomes resistant to the insulin it produces. So, I assumed, that you are likely over the age of... Hey, would you look at that!?! I now see that type 1 is listed as "formerly called juvenile-onset" diabetes!

You see, they have changed the description of the different types of diabetes. I could say that we are both right, but I wasn't following the latest guidelines. But, I won't, I'll just simply say I was wrong.

For anyone interested, I visited WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/tc/diabetes-differences-between-type-1-and-2-topic-overview) and it wasn't very clear on the new distinctions. I then visited Bupa (http://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/t/type-1-diabetes) which goes into a little more detail about how the definitions were broadened from where your body never produced insulin to where you body can no longer produce insulin.

It's apparent that tygeezy indeed has Type 1 diabetes that wasn't from birth (or a very young age as was previously needed to be called Type 1), but instead brought upon by an autoimmune disease in which his body attacked his own pancreas to the point that they stopped producing insulin (which is now distinguished from the 'resistance' that defines Type 2).

Again, I'll apologize to tygeezy. While I was going under older guidelines, I offended him. It wasn't my intentions. I was just 'razzing' him for what I thought was a type-O.

FWIW: I could still be wrong in what I'm saying. But from what I've read this is my take on it. I'd certainly be interested in hearing from others with a different view. But, I'll ask that we keep it as a discussion instead of being viewed as a personal attack.

 

[deadken]

Why would anyone be constipated on bread?!

I'm thinking that the lack of fiber in most breads could be enough to constipate some people. Especially if it is their only food source.

 

[Raghu]

Constipation is the inability of the body to excrete fiber, right?

No fiber, no constipation. Problem?

 

[deadken]

Constipation is the inability of the body to excrete fiber, right?

No fiber, no constipation. Problem?

Ummm... I think that constipation is when you have difficulty pooping. Adding fiber to your diet can help loosen your stool, so it helps with pooping.

No Fiber = hard poop / hard to poop.
Fiber / lots of fiber = softer poop / easier to poop.

Simple experiment: Eat normal one day then take notes on how your next poop or two went. Eat normal the next day, but add prunes, raisins, flaxseed meal, bran flakes, salads, etc... in with what you are eating. Then take notes on how your next poop or two went. Compare notes...

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Relax dude. I'm not trying to 'call you out'. I'm okay with you thinking I look like a fool. It's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I'd like to suggest you take your ego out of the equation and engage in a conversation in which at the very least one of us will learn something today.

Now, back onto the subject at hand, I think one of us is confused as to the different types of Diabetes. I have a brother-in-law, a close friend, and my grandfather who have / had type 2 diabetes. I also have a close friend who has a son with type 1 diabetes. Now, from what I've been told, type 1 is when your body basically never produced insulin. And, type 2 is when you stopped producing enough or when your body becomes resistant to the insulin it produces. So, I assumed, that you are likely over the age of... Hey, would you look at that!?! I now see that type 1 is listed as "formerly called juvenile-onset" diabetes!

You see, they have changed the description of the different types of diabetes. I could say that we are both right, but I wasn't following the latest guidelines. But, I won't, I'll just simply say I was wrong.

For anyone interested, I visited WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/tc/diabetes-differences-between-type-1-and-2-topic-overview) and it wasn't very clear on the new distinctions. I then visited Bupa (http://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/t/type-1-diabetes) which goes into a little more detail about how the definitions were broadened from where your body never produced insulin to where you body can no longer produce insulin.

It's apparent that tygeezy indeed has Type 1 diabetes that wasn't from birth (or a very young age as was previously needed to be called Type 1), but instead brought upon by an autoimmune disease in which his body attacked his own pancreas to the point that they stopped producing insulin (which is now distinguished from the 'resistance' that defines Type 2).

Again, I'll apologize to tygeezy. While I was going under older guidelines, I offended him. It wasn't my intentions. I was just 'razzing' him for what I thought was a type-O.

FWIW: I could still be wrong in what I'm saying. But from what I've read this is my take on it. I'd certainly be interested in hearing from others with a different view. But, I'll ask that we keep it as a discussion instead of being viewed as a personal attack.

Type I Diabetes Mellitus can be acquired at any point in life. You may be born with it or your immune system may slowly kill off the beta cells in your pancreas. The best description of type I is insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, where the patient must utilize extrinsic insulin (via medication) to regulate their metabolic processes. These patients have a poor time producing insulin, but are still sensitive to it. In contrast, type II diabetes is insulin-independent and thus may or may not respond to extrinsic insulin. In actuality, there are patients who demonstrate signs of both so the classification is a little bit arbitrary. There is a continuum. Some people don't get type I diabetes until later in life, but it's definitely for different reasons than Type II Diabetes Mellitus.

They used to differentiate the two as juvenile and adult-onset diabetes mellitus as it was a clearer classification, but it has always run both ways. Kids get type II diabetes and adults get type I. It's just not as common.

 

[deadken]

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They used to differentiate the two as juvenile and adult-onset diabetes mellitus as it was a clearer classification, but it has always run both ways. Kids get type II diabetes and adults get type I. It's just not as common.

Gotcha. As I said earlier, I learned something today. I want to say thanks for clearing it up, but I'm afraid I didn't entirely follow what you wrote about the distinctions.

I *think* that I got the gist of it, but, I'd rather not make more assumptions in this thread. Could I sum it up as simply as:
Type 1: Your body can not produce any insulin or enough insulin and therefore must get it from an external source.
Type 2: Your body has become insulin resistant to the point it cannot produce enough on its own.

Or, is it still more complicated than that?

Hey SC: Can I ask about some related stuff?

My buddy (the same one who has the son who is Type 1) recently had a kidney transplant. About 5 years ago he was affected by 'Goodpasture's syndrome'. His immune system attacked his own kidneys (with Goodpasture's it could have attacked his lungs instead). tygeezy has said that his immune system killed off his beta cells in his pancreas. Are cases where a persons own body attacks itself becoming more common or have they always been around? I don't remember hearing about these kinds of things that much before.

Also, what other things can damage your pancreas? I never gave mine much thought before. I know not to overdo the sugar. As I said, my grandfather had type 2 (FWIW: he was a baker). So, I avoid excessive daily sugar intake including excessive alcohol. Are there other simple things one should consider? Or are cases of damage to the pancreas very rare and unavoidable?