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PricklyPete

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The mountain bike tire I wanted to put on before my trip to Moab next week is out of stock on all Prime vendors on Amazon...grrr. Not interested in calling all over town to see if I can find one in stock. Will just have to cross fingers that my tires hold up from the beating I will give them in Moab.
 

Carson Dyle

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The mountain bike tire I wanted to put on before my trip to Moab next week is out of stock on all Prime vendors on Amazon...grrr. Not interested in calling all over town to see if I can find one in stock. Will just have to cross fingers that my tires hold up from the beating I will give them in Moab.

Try a Colorado online vendor like Excel Sports. If they have it, you should be able to have it in a day or two.

http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=7&major=2&minor=27
 
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I have a really bad cold and i just sneezed and blew my nose at the same time and ripped the inside of my nose open. I now have a nose bleed. :'(
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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I was typing in my email address and password when a new browser window stole focus. Now google has this vital info in their search history.
 

Red Squirrel

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I have a really bad cold and i just sneezed and blew my nose at the same time and ripped the inside of my nose open. I now have a nose bleed. :'(

Ouch. It's ridiculous how much power there is in a sneeze. The other day I sneezed and cracked something in my chest. Not super bad, but it hurt for a bit, like a bruise. Actually it still hurts a bit if I push down on the bone. I wonder if I should get that checked.... lol
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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The A/C doesn't seem to be working in our half of the office... good thing it's not summer yet but 82° is still not comfortable.
 

Charmonium

Lifer
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Try cupping both hands over your mouth when you sneeze. It creates some back pressure so you don't start ripping up your sinuses and chest. :) It also helps muffle the sneeze so that you don't scare children and small animals.
 

Charmonium

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Ever heard of SARS?

Don't sneeze into your hands, people. I thought all adults knew this by now...

https://www.google.com/search?q=proper+sneeze&tbm=isch
Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to sneeze into your elbow. How many people have you seen actually do that? It's awkward and you're more likely to miss. Also, if you could model the airflow in that situation, I think you'd be surprised at how ineffective it is in terms of still having all sorts of atomized droplets still getting into the air. I don't think whoever came up with that idea really understood the dynamics. Also, it's something you have to train yourself to do since most people learned to sneeze into their hands. So that's virtually reflexive.

All that method does is keep your hands relatively clean. But the unfortunate fact of the matter is that people touch their nose and eyes on average, about 3.6 times per hour - http://www.today.com/health/quit-touching-your-face-flu-researchers-say-1C7284851

So in most cases you're self-inoculating when you get a virus.
 

gorcorps

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Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to sneeze into your elbow. How many people have you seen actually do that? It's awkward and you're more likely to miss. Also, if you could model the airflow in that situation, I think you'd be surprised at how ineffective it is in terms of still having all sorts of atomized droplets still getting into the air. I don't think whoever came up with that idea really understood the dynamics. Also, it's something you have to train yourself to do since most people learned to sneeze into their hands. So that's virtually reflexive.

All that method does is keep your hands relatively clean. But the unfortunate fact of the matter is that people touch their nose and eyes on average, about 3.6 times per hour - http://www.today.com/health/quit-touching-your-face-flu-researchers-say-1C7284851

So in most cases you're self-inoculating when you get a virus.

Seriously? Sneezing into my arm is like second nature. It was the natural way I covered my mouth. The only way it wouldn't be as good is if you had some seriously dinky little arms...

Plus Mythbusters already did it, sneezing into your arms won hands down

(pun very intended)
 

Charmonium

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Seriously? Sneezing into my arm is like second nature. It was the natural way I covered my mouth. The only way it wouldn't be as good is if you had some seriously dinky little arms...

Plus Mythbusters already did it, sneezing into your arms won hands down

(pun very intended)
I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and that's certainly not what I was taught. Maybe at some point they started teaching kids to do it this way. IDK.

Personally, I can't reach my elbow with my mouth. It seems the bone in my upper arm is too long. Either than or the deltoids are getting in the way. I can almost do it with my left arm but not the right so I'm guessing its the delts.

Anyway, I don't think it matters since as I said, in most cases you self-inoculate. So even if it is effective at stopping the aspiration of virus particles, which I still doubt, it doesn't matter since that isn't the primary route of infection.
 

gorcorps

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I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that and that's certainly not what I was taught. Maybe at some point they started teaching kids to do it this way. IDK.

Personally, I can't reach my elbow with my mouth. It seems the bone in my upper arm is too long. Either than or the deltoids are getting in the way. I can almost do it with my left arm but not the right so I'm guessing its the delts.

Anyway, I don't think it matters since as I said, in most cases you self-inoculate. So even if it is effective at stopping the aspiration of virus particles, which I still doubt, it doesn't matter since that isn't the primary route of infection.
I don't always go for the elbow. Into the bicep works, closer to the shoulder more than the elbow really
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to sneeze into your elbow. How many people have you seen actually do that? It's awkward and you're more likely to miss. Also, if you could model the airflow in that situation, I think you'd be surprised at how ineffective it is in terms of still having all sorts of atomized droplets still getting into the air. I don't think whoever came up with that idea really understood the dynamics. Also, it's something you have to train yourself to do since most people learned to sneeze into their hands. So that's virtually reflexive.

All that method does is keep your hands relatively clean. But the unfortunate fact of the matter is that people touch their nose and eyes on average, about 3.6 times per hour - http://www.today.com/health/quit-touching-your-face-flu-researchers-say-1C7284851

So in most cases you're self-inoculating when you get a virus.

Do you go around touching other people's nose and eyes and mouth with your inner elbow? No? Well, do you touch phones, door knobs, terminals, and other items that they also touch? Try that with your inner elbow!

Even if you touch you face that often, you are only getting a fraction of the contamination you get from a sneeze. It will usually dry and become inactive in seconds. A nasty wet sneeze will remain infectious a LOT longer on your hands and surfaces your hands touch than a casual touch somewhere on the face.

Also, unless you are sneezing right in someone's face, the aerosolized particles are far less of a concern than the droplets on surfaces you and others touch. The more finely aerosolized the faster they dry and die.
 
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Ichinisan

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Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to sneeze into your elbow. How many people have you seen actually do that?
Practically everyone in my area. It seems really strange to see someone sneeze into their hands anymore. Saw it happen at the flea market the other day and it really stood out.

I always stifle and never let saliva fly, but I use my elbow anyway.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Practically everyone in my area. It seems really strange to see someone sneeze into their hands anymore. Saw it happen at the flea market the other day and it really stood out.

I always stifle and never let saliva fly, but I use my elbow anyway.

I just sneezed and it got saliva all over my face.
 

Charmonium

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Do you go around touching other people's nose and eyes and mouth with your inner elbow? No? Do you touch phones and door knobs and terminals with your inner elbow?

Even if you touch you face that often, you are only getting a fraction of the contamination you get from a sneeze. It will usually dry and become inactive in seconds. A nasty wet sneeze will remain infectious a LOT longer on your hands and surfaces your hands touch than a casual touch somewhere on the face.

Also, unless you are sneezing right in someone's face, the aerosolized particles are far less of a concern than the droplets on surfaces you and others touch. The more finely aerosolized the faster they dry and die.
Now you're just making shit up. Many viruses can last hours if not days on typical home and office surfaces. Some may curl up and die immediately but most don't.

Second, self-inoculation means that you touch a contaminated surface and then touch an area like nose or mouth with mucous membranes susceptible to infection. This is an established scientific fact. See the link I offered earlier.

Finally, do you have any idea how many virus particles there are in a cough or sneeze? Millions if not billions. So if you want people sneezing in your face rather than their hands, knock yourself out.
 

Charmonium

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I don't always go for the elbow. Into the bicep works, closer to the shoulder more than the elbow really
Thanks, but still an issue. If I go for the bicep, it's going to hit it at a pretty acute angle so I'm not sure how much good that's going to do.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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If I'm in public, I stifle my sneeze so I won't have the possibility of snotting on myself. Very unsatisfying. When outside or home, I sneeze into the air. Highly satisfying.
 

Imp

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I sneeze at the floor whenever possible, in public and at home -- I'm also short so I'm pretty close to the floor at all times after a short bend over.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Now you're just making shit up. Many viruses can last hours if not days on typical home and office surfaces. Some may curl up and die immediately but most don't.

Second, self-inoculation means that you touch a contaminated surface and then touch an area like nose or mouth with mucous membranes susceptible to infection. This is an established scientific fact. See the link I offered earlier.

Finally, do you have any idea how many virus particles there are in a cough or sneeze? Millions if not billions. So if you want people sneezing in your face rather than their hands, knock yourself out.

I wasn't saying anything about your self-inoculation assertion.

We aren't talking about "many viruses that can last hours of not day on ... surfaces," we are talking about the most common respiratory viruses that typically spread through sneezing: cold and flu (rhinovirus and influenza). When they last for days it's... you guessed it! In a warm moist environment (typically a blob on mucous or saliva).

It's a well known fact that cold and flu viruses do not survive long after the droplets dry. I'm not making that up. You sneeze onto your elbow and clothing and far fewer of those "millions and billions" get transferred by your hands to other surfaces other people are likely to touch. That's the key point. You greatly increase the chance that it will dry up and die uneventfully if you sneeze into your elbow or shirt or the ground than in your hands. Cold and flu viruses are counting on that behavior to spread it.

You're welcome.
 

Imp

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I just effed up my write holding my backpack with a case of Pepsi ginger in it while taking my shoes off. Think it's strained since there's no sharp pain. Ouchies.