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wahoyaho

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wtf i'm chinese and i've never heard that tradition befor ejust apply the palm and leave it!
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant

I'm not arguing for the sake of it. I'm arguing because it really is retarded to think that spicy soup will make you better.

As long as it's not loaded with salt, for the most part it will. Dehydration is common with many illnesses.

The soup will help rehydrate your body along with giving you nutrients you probably otherwise wouldn't get down. Depending on the sickness, you may not be able to get or keep down solid foods.

It also provides temporary relief in relieving congestion and helping to clear the sinus cavities.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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My dad used to do this when I was had a cold, fever, or simply couldn't stop coughing.

He'd use po-sum-on-yau (chinese liquid feel good type medicine), rub it all over my back then use a big ceramic spoon and diagonally strike it against my back, making red marks all over. Or sometimes what he does is he'd cut big pieces of ginger into slices, heat it over the range, and lay it on my back. If for nothing else, I did sleep better at nights.

Another chinese tradition is if you have a bruise, what is said to help is if you boil an egg, take out the shells, wrap it in a cloth and rub it against the bruise to help it go away.

Those of you who came from Vietnam, look at your palms right below your index finger, is there a bluish mark there? My dad said I have it because of some needle injection procedure, supposedly to help fight bateria and diseases when you're young and have a weak immune system.

 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: iamaelephant

I'm not arguing for the sake of it. I'm arguing because it really is retarded to think that spicy soup will make you better.

As long as it's not loaded with salt, for the most part it will. Dehydration is common with many illnesses.

The soup will help rehydrate your body along with giving you nutrients you probably otherwise wouldn't get down. Depending on the sickness, you may not be able to get or keep down solid foods.

It also provides temporary relief in relieving congestion and helping to clear the sinus cavities.

Well if you mean the soup will help if it's a choice between soup and starving then yes, of course. I thought that was obvious enough without having to say it explicitly. I think in most occasions eating is better than starving.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: PeeluckyDuckee
My dad used to do this when I was had a cold, fever, or simply couldn't stop coughing.

He'd use po-sum-on-yau (chinese liquid feel good type medicine), rub it all over my back then use a big ceramic spoon and diagonally strike it against my back, making red marks all over. Or sometimes what he does is he'd cut big pieces of ginger into slices, heat it over the range, and lay it on my back. If for nothing else, I did sleep better at nights.

Another chinese tradition is if you have a bruise, what is said to help is if you boil an egg, take out the shells, wrap it in a cloth and rub it against the bruise to help it go away.

Those of you who came from Vietnam, look at your palms right below your index finger, is there a bluish mark there? My dad said I have it because of some needle injection procedure, supposedly to help fight bateria and diseases when you're young and have a weak immune system.

Thankfully now we live in the 21st century. I think it's high time we abolished ignorant and harmful practices like these.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: iamaelephant

I'm not arguing for the sake of it. I'm arguing because it really is retarded to think that spicy soup will make you better.

As long as it's not loaded with salt, for the most part it will. Dehydration is common with many illnesses.

The soup will help rehydrate your body along with giving you nutrients you probably otherwise wouldn't get down. Depending on the sickness, you may not be able to get or keep down solid foods.

It also provides temporary relief in relieving congestion and helping to clear the sinus cavities.

Well if you mean the soup will help if it's a choice between soup and starving then yes, of course. I thought that was obvious enough without having to say it explicitly. I think in most occasions eating is better than starving.

You're not going to starve at all when you're sick unless it's some completely dehabilitating illness.

Like I said, there are plenty of times when people are sick and they can't get food down or keep it down. People can usually keep liquids and soups down. Intaking liquids and soups that are hydrating and contain electrolytes are going to help fight the dehydration that normally occurs with many illnesses.

On top of that, you completely ignored the soothing effects on the respiratory system that I mentioned.

Basically, like freedomsbeat said, you were arguing for the sake of arguing.
 

Greyd

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup. That made sense... Coins rubbed on one's back doesn't quite make sense to me. And, well, Vick's Vapor Rub is supposed to make you feel good, so I guess it's working, Chinese Medicine Magic or not...

I just hate how the OP assumed that everyone would know his stupid traditions - why not include a little description so us non-chinese could know what the hell you're talking about?

(Taken from ASkmen.com article concerning the chemical Capsaicin)

Cayenne pepper and hot chilies
If your head feels like it?s packed with Elmer?s glue, skip the pills and pop a chili pepper instead. Capsaicin, the chemical that gives chilies their bite, acts as a decongestant, expectorant and pain reliever all at once. Remember how your nose, mouth and eyes ran after your friend dared you to munch on a jalapeno? Imagine the same effect when your head is clogged by a cold. Capsaicin encourages your body to thin down all that mucus so you can hack it up and get rid of it.

It may seem counterintuitive, but capsaicin does deaden nerves when it?s applied. The chemical depletes the neurotransmitter ?substance P,? which relays pain signals to the brain. It also cranks up the body?s production of collagenase and prostaglandin, which reduce pain and swelling. Got a sore throat? Gulp down some Tabasco sauce.

Chilies are also packed with vitamin C. In fact, one chili can contain up to four times as much vitamin C as an orange. And vitamin C, as we?ll see, has been proven to shorten the duration of colds.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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My parents have always told me to drink more water when you're sick, eat lightly, and if you do take any kind of medication have a little food to go with it as well. Congee or porridge is usually what I was given.

 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup. That made sense... Coins rubbed on one's back doesn't quite make sense to me. And, well, Vick's Vapor Rub is supposed to make you feel good, so I guess it's working, Chinese Medicine Magic or not...

I just hate how the OP assumed that everyone would know his stupid traditions - why not include a little description so us non-chinese could know what the hell you're talking about?

(Taken from ASkmen.com article concerning the chemical Capsaicin)

Cayenne pepper and hot chilies
If your head feels like it?s packed with Elmer?s glue, skip the pills and pop a chili pepper instead. Capsaicin, the chemical that gives chilies their bite, acts as a decongestant, expectorant and pain reliever all at once. Remember how your nose, mouth and eyes ran after your friend dared you to munch on a jalapeno? Imagine the same effect when your head is clogged by a cold. Capsaicin encourages your body to thin down all that mucus so you can hack it up and get rid of it.

It may seem counterintuitive, but capsaicin does deaden nerves when it?s applied. The chemical depletes the neurotransmitter ?substance P,? which relays pain signals to the brain. It also cranks up the body?s production of collagenase and prostaglandin, which reduce pain and swelling. Got a sore throat? Gulp down some Tabasco sauce.

Chilies are also packed with vitamin C. In fact, one chili can contain up to four times as much vitamin C as an orange. And vitamin C, as we?ll see, has been proven to shorten the duration of colds.

If this is true then I stand corrected. I'll have to give it a go next time I'm ill.
 
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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup. That made sense... Coins rubbed on one's back doesn't quite make sense to me. And, well, Vick's Vapor Rub is supposed to make you feel good, so I guess it's working, Chinese Medicine Magic or not...

I just hate how the OP assumed that everyone would know his stupid traditions - why not include a little description so us non-chinese could know what the hell you're talking about?

(Taken from ASkmen.com article concerning the chemical Capsaicin)

Cayenne pepper and hot chilies
If your head feels like it?s packed with Elmer?s glue, skip the pills and pop a chili pepper instead. Capsaicin, the chemical that gives chilies their bite, acts as a decongestant, expectorant and pain reliever all at once. Remember how your nose, mouth and eyes ran after your friend dared you to munch on a jalapeno? Imagine the same effect when your head is clogged by a cold. Capsaicin encourages your body to thin down all that mucus so you can hack it up and get rid of it.

It may seem counterintuitive, but capsaicin does deaden nerves when it?s applied. The chemical depletes the neurotransmitter ?substance P,? which relays pain signals to the brain. It also cranks up the body?s production of collagenase and prostaglandin, which reduce pain and swelling. Got a sore throat? Gulp down some Tabasco sauce.

Chilies are also packed with vitamin C. In fact, one chili can contain up to four times as much vitamin C as an orange. And vitamin C, as we?ll see, has been proven to shorten the duration of colds.

If this is true then I stand corrected. I'll have to give it a go next time I'm ill.

Try melagtawny soup! I probably butchered the spelling but it's pretty easy to make and clears you up. Tea, honey, and ginger also work. Or just see a doctor, like I do 99% of the times ;)
 

mercanucaribe

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This quarter thing is asinine. People will come up with anything and call it a tradition. Vaporub is for your respiratory system, not to rub into your skin.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup. That made sense... Coins rubbed on one's back doesn't quite make sense to me. And, well, Vick's Vapor Rub is supposed to make you feel good, so I guess it's working, Chinese Medicine Magic or not...

I just hate how the OP assumed that everyone would know his stupid traditions - why not include a little description so us non-chinese could know what the hell you're talking about?

(Taken from ASkmen.com article concerning the chemical Capsaicin)

Cayenne pepper and hot chilies
If your head feels like it?s packed with Elmer?s glue, skip the pills and pop a chili pepper instead. Capsaicin, the chemical that gives chilies their bite, acts as a decongestant, expectorant and pain reliever all at once. Remember how your nose, mouth and eyes ran after your friend dared you to munch on a jalapeno? Imagine the same effect when your head is clogged by a cold. Capsaicin encourages your body to thin down all that mucus so you can hack it up and get rid of it.

It may seem counterintuitive, but capsaicin does deaden nerves when it?s applied. The chemical depletes the neurotransmitter ?substance P,? which relays pain signals to the brain. It also cranks up the body?s production of collagenase and prostaglandin, which reduce pain and swelling. Got a sore throat? Gulp down some Tabasco sauce.

Chilies are also packed with vitamin C. In fact, one chili can contain up to four times as much vitamin C as an orange. And vitamin C, as we?ll see, has been proven to shorten the duration of colds.

If this is true then I stand corrected. I'll have to give it a go next time I'm ill.

Try melagtawny soup! I probably butchered the spelling but it's pretty easy to make and clears you up. Tea, honey, and ginger also work. Or just see a doctor, like I do 99% of the times ;)

Mulligatawny = Milagu Thanni = Peppercorn Water (literal), commonly known as 'Milagu Rasam' in South India, particularly the state of Tamil Nadu. Damn good for colds and stuffy heads.
 

BoomerD

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Non-cream type soups of any kind are good for you when you're ill. The soothing effects and help for respiratory issues are why chicken soup is called "Jewish Penicillin"...It's more about getting some kind of nutrition into the body than anything else, BUT, there are supposed to be SOME theraputic effects from the soup as well...perhaps more placebo than actual, but...
 

Gibsons

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The whole quarter rubbing thing is probably just a way to get a little adrenalin flowing. Adrenalin is (among other things) a decongestant.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup. That made sense... Coins rubbed on one's back doesn't quite make sense to me. And, well, Vick's Vapor Rub is supposed to make you feel good, so I guess it's working, Chinese Medicine Magic or not...

I just hate how the OP assumed that everyone would know his stupid traditions - why not include a little description so us non-chinese could know what the hell you're talking about?

(Taken from ASkmen.com article concerning the chemical Capsaicin)

Cayenne pepper and hot chilies
If your head feels like it?s packed with Elmer?s glue, skip the pills and pop a chili pepper instead. Capsaicin, the chemical that gives chilies their bite, acts as a decongestant, expectorant and pain reliever all at once. Remember how your nose, mouth and eyes ran after your friend dared you to munch on a jalapeno? Imagine the same effect when your head is clogged by a cold. Capsaicin encourages your body to thin down all that mucus so you can hack it up and get rid of it.

It may seem counterintuitive, but capsaicin does deaden nerves when it?s applied. The chemical depletes the neurotransmitter ?substance P,? which relays pain signals to the brain. It also cranks up the body?s production of collagenase and prostaglandin, which reduce pain and swelling. Got a sore throat? Gulp down some Tabasco sauce.

Chilies are also packed with vitamin C. In fact, one chili can contain up to four times as much vitamin C as an orange. And vitamin C, as we?ll see, has been proven to shorten the duration of colds.

If this is true then I stand corrected. I'll have to give it a go next time I'm ill.

Try melagtawny soup! I probably butchered the spelling but it's pretty easy to make and clears you up. Tea, honey, and ginger also work. Or just see a doctor, like I do 99% of the times ;)

Thanks for the advice :p I seldom get sick enough to have to resort to seeing a doc, but with winter coming maybe I will end up trying the soup.
 

Doodoo

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Its amazing that people call something stupid when they have no idea what they are talking about. In the US most people call this coining...and it doesn't have to be done with vaporub or coins. I've always seen it done with menthol oil and a ceramic spoon. The whole purpose of the procedure is to increase blood flow to ease pain.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup.

How does that make any sense? Seems just a moronic as the coin thing.

Spicy soup sounds like it would clear your sinuses or something...or make you sweat...
 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: LS20
chinese method of tiger balm + spoon-scraping feels soooooooooooooo good!

How come my parents never use spoons? :confused:... The coins are hard to use because they slip off your fingers.
At least now I know what's the technique is called thanks to Doodoo.
 

HN

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Yreka

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Originally posted by: athithi


Mulligatawny = Milagu Thanni = Peppercorn Water (literal), commonly known as 'Milagu Rasam' in South India, particularly the state of Tamil Nadu. Damn good for colds and stuffy heads.

Chicken Broth + Cayenne pepper work well also..


Its actually pretty tasty too, assuming you like spicy chicken ;)
 

eLiu

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Some traditions seem to make sense - when I'm sick my mom used to give me this very spicy indian soup.

How does that make any sense? Seems just a moronic as the coin thing.

Spicy stuff clears my sinuses. Not to mention that I really enjoy spicy food, sick or not sick. (UNLESS I'm throwing up.... then omg, how much pain would that be to spicy food come up again)
 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
9000+ posts, and each one more stupid than the last. could there be a limit? i hope so....

Actually the post I made back in 2004 was the stupidest.
Didn't know there was a controversy about cao gio though... :confused: