what does cocking a gun do ?

[TwiceOver]

Originally posted by: rh71
what does cocking a gun do ?

Makes me wanna sh!t my pants... Went to visit a friend out in the country once, and couldn't find the turnoff to his driveway but knew it was behind the woods... Started walking through them till I heard a shotgun cock.... Never ran so hard in my life.

As for a handgun. Same difference in the whole loading thing.

 

[rh71]

what about expensing shells ? See that in movies too... they cock the barrel/chamber and bullets fall out.

(this is starting to look like a how-many-times-can-I-say-cock thread, don't it?)

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: So
Well, theoretically (I can't say I've fired a pistol here, so correct me if I'm wrong) -- doesn't it make the first pull of the trigger a 'short' pull so it is both easier and quicker to get that first shot off (however marginal the improvement is).

It takes much more effort with most handguns to use double action. That trigger pull must raise the hammer, or both raise it and turn the cylinder. The harder you have to squeeze, the less accurate the shot.

If you already have the weapon cocked, all the trigger does is allow the hammer to fall. Takes MUCH less effort, and therefore makes the gun move less.

I am by far more accurate with single action than double. I think most people are.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: So
Well, theoretically (I can't say I've fired a pistol here, so correct me if I'm wrong) -- doesn't it make the first pull of the trigger a 'short' pull so it is both easier and quicker to get that first shot off (however marginal the improvement is).

I believe that the trigger pull weight is the same number of pounds whether the gun is cocked or not on a semi-auto.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: rh71
while we're sharing this wealth of information, how does the safety come into play ? The trigger can still be fully pulled, yes ? Do all handguns have safetys ?

Many handguns have no manual safeties, Glocks for example.

 

[rh71]

I hear if you hold the weapon gangsta-style sideways, it helps with the shift, thus increasing accuracy.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: rh71
I hear if you hold the weapon gangsta-style sideways, it helps with the shift, thus increasing accuracy.

Now you are getting just plain silly

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: rh71
I hear if you hold the weapon gangsta-style sideways, it helps with the shift, thus increasing accuracy.

Only if you hold it high above your head and thrust it towards your target every shot to give the bullet that extra push in midair.

- M4H

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: rh71
while we're sharing this wealth of information, how does the safety come into play ? The trigger can still be fully pulled, yes ? Do all handguns have safetys ?

Not ALL handguns have safeties, but all handguns you're likely to buy do. In the old days safeties were much less prevalent...I got to fire a nice WW2 sniper rifle once, that was one LOUD and POWERFUL gun. Bolt-action. No safety.

Originally posted by: rh71
what about expensing shells ? See that in movies too... they cock the barrel/chamber and bullets fall out.

(this is starting to look like a how-many-times-can-I-say-cock thread, don't it?)

are you talking about semiautomatic pistols? In that case, it's not the cocking that's important...they are pulling the slide back to get the chambered round out. Only one bullet should fall out...

This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: rh71
while we're sharing this wealth of information, how does the safety come into play ? The trigger can still be fully pulled, yes ? Do all handguns have safetys ?

Not ALL handguns have safeties, but all handguns you're likely to buy do. In the old days safeties were much less prevalent...I got to fire a nice WW2 sniper rifle once, that was one LOUD and POWERFUL gun. Bolt-action. No safety.

Originally posted by: rh71
what about expensing shells ? See that in movies too... they cock the barrel/chamber and bullets fall out.

(this is starting to look like a how-many-times-can-I-say-cock thread, don't it?)

are you talking about semiautomatic pistols? In that case, it's not the cocking that's important...they are pulling the slide back to get the chambered round out. Only one bullet should fall out...

This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

Bet his dad never bought him another gun.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: rh71
I hear if you hold the weapon gangsta-style sideways, it helps with the shift, thus increasing accuracy.

Only if you hold it high above your head and thrust it towards your target every shot to give the bullet that extra push in midair.

- M4H

Just for you.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: rh71
while we're sharing this wealth of information, how does the safety come into play ? The trigger can still be fully pulled, yes ? Do all handguns have safetys ?

Not ALL handguns have safeties, but all handguns you're likely to buy do. In the old days safeties were much less prevalent...I got to fire a nice WW2 sniper rifle once, that was one LOUD and POWERFUL gun. Bolt-action. No safety.

Originally posted by: rh71
what about expensing shells ? See that in movies too... they cock the barrel/chamber and bullets fall out.

(this is starting to look like a how-many-times-can-I-say-cock thread, don't it?)

are you talking about semiautomatic pistols? In that case, it's not the cocking that's important...they are pulling the slide back to get the chambered round out. Only one bullet should fall out...

This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

Hmm...I would say the father is more of the moron. Though, the *first* thing I do when looking at a gun or handing it over to say, the counter person at a gun shop, is check the barrel/chamber. Number one rule is that every gun is loaded, even if you know its not.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: jagec
This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

There's a whole lotta stupid going on there.

His dad for giving him a gun without any training.
His dad again for giving it to him LOADED.
Him for playing with a goddamn firearm.
Him for almost killing his father.

I predict a Darwin award in that family.

- M4H

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: Amol
actually, studies and statistics show that cocking a gun can actually scare a predator, burglar, etc away . . . . i think its something like 50-60% of the time

forgot where i heard it though . . . . .

Just like in the movie Phone Booth. Gives the shivers to the victim.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: rh71
I hear if you hold the weapon gangsta-style sideways, it helps with the shift, thus increasing accuracy.

Only if you hold it high above your head and thrust it towards your target every shot to give the bullet that extra push in midair.

- M4H

Just for you.

is that for real? damn. alsmost as good as the John Madden holiday Christamas CD (i really would buy it too if he made one).:laugh:

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: rh71
while we're sharing this wealth of information, how does the safety come into play ? The trigger can still be fully pulled, yes ? Do all handguns have safetys ?

Not ALL handguns have safeties, but all handguns you're likely to buy do. In the old days safeties were much less prevalent...I got to fire a nice WW2 sniper rifle once, that was one LOUD and POWERFUL gun. Bolt-action. No safety.

Originally posted by: rh71
what about expensing shells ? See that in movies too... they cock the barrel/chamber and bullets fall out.

(this is starting to look like a how-many-times-can-I-say-cock thread, don't it?)

are you talking about semiautomatic pistols? In that case, it's not the cocking that's important...they are pulling the slide back to get the chambered round out. Only one bullet should fall out...

This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

What kind of rifle? Most everything that comes to mind had a manual saftey.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: jagec
This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

There's a whole lotta stupid going on there.

His dad for giving him a gun without any training.
His dad again for giving it to him LOADED.
Him for playing with a goddamn firearm.
Him for almost killing his father.

I predict a Darwin award in that family.

- M4H

This is the justifiable reason for a pistol whipping.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: jagec
are you talking about semiautomatic pistols? In that case, it's not the cocking that's important...they are pulling the slide back to get the chambered round out. Only one bullet should fall out...

This guy I knew in high school (bit of a moron) once got a 9mm as a birthday present from his dad. Loaded. So he takes the clip out, and starts playing around with it, pretending to shoot in various directions. He almost blew his dad's head off when the round that was still in the chamber went off.

What kind of rifle? Most everything that comes to mind had a manual saftey.

I'm afraid I'm too ignorant about guns to give you a model

Apparently this one had interchangeable barrels...it was firing some wierd caliber, but you could change it out for a 30.06 or one other caliber if you wanted.

But yeah, I felt kinda nervous carrying it around...especially when we went hunting with it (didn't get anything). I just left the bolt open when I wasn't using it.