What do you think of restaurants who demand a tip?

[Sphexi]

I'm probably the most generous tipper I know. If the service is good then I tip great, pizza guy brings me $15 worth of pie I give upwards of $5 or $6, more than 33% and the parlor is just down the street so it's an easy delivery. I used to work those types of jobs so I got a softspot for those people.

Once or twice I've been somewhere that's added the tip automatically, and if the service is good enough to warrant it I sometimes let it slide, or simply mention that I'd normally be tipping them, but since they already added it they get nothing extra. Once or twice the service has been substandard, by a LOT, and I flat out refused to pay the extra that they added on, before the meal started. They said that it wasn't an option, I told them that if they didn't feel like earning their wage then they need an easier job, to go get my food, and if they do it well they won't have any problems.

I've yet to be refused service for arguing it.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: daclayman
Hey, Mr. Nik.

I'm not saying you should tip us but most pizza joints only have 7 or so drivers and they all talk to each other and they've more than likely worked at the other pizza joint and more importantly.... they're alone with YOUR food for at least 5 minutes. Maybe you should consider ---- Fast and Free Pickup!

Just like a typical ignorant immature pizza delivery guy :roll: threatening to fvck up my order or my food because they think they deserve a tip. :roll:

I'd *love* to get you fired for fvcking with my order.

 

[cjgallen]

I'd rather pay more for food than deal with all the fvcking DRAMA over tipping.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Um, tipping is how a waitress gets their income. My mother is a waitress and her "paycheck" doesn't even exist, its just there to cover her work-insurance. As a matter of fact, she owes a little bit of money every "paycheck". All of the income comes from customers.

Not tipping is being extremely selfish.

:roll:

Boofvckinghoo. Get a different job. Not tipping is extremely selfish?

wow... I haven't found very many things on the forums that actually makes me mad -like, legitimately angry- on the forums. You've just hit one. That is easily one of the most ignorant and enraging things I have ever read on AT. Good job. :thumbsup:

What a fvcking lazy, ungreatful, stupid, self-destructive ideology. :roll:

Sure, leave it to your customers to better your life because you can't seem to get it through your thick fvcking dumbass skull that if you want more money, ask for a raise or get a different job or a second job --or a third or a forth.

"Help! I can't be bothered to actually DO anything with my life, so I'm going to whine and bitch when I don't get tipped!" :roll: :|

 

[MommysLittleMonster]

Originally posted by: Nik
I do not ever tip anyone who demands it or expects it. Bitch, you get a goddamn paycheck. Need more money? GET A DIFFERENT JOB. :|

grr...

</rant>

Waiters/waitresses get paid hourly...something like $2.30 per hour. After taxes, what is that? If you want to be cheap with a tip, (less than 15%) order carry out and eat in front of your television. What they earn comes from their tips.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster

Originally posted by: Nik
I do not ever tip anyone who demands it or expects it. Bitch, you get a goddamn paycheck. Need more money? GET A DIFFERENT JOB. :|

grr...

</rant>

Waiters/waitresses get paid hourly...something like $2.30 per hour. After taxes, what is that? If you want to be cheap with a tip, (less than 15%) order carry out and eat in front of your television. What they earn comes from their tips.

Read the goddamn thread.

 

[TheLonelyPhoenix]

Nik is going to open up his next pizza to find a nice huge pile of sh!t.

 

[DAGTA]

Most of the world finds it odd that tipping is expected in the USA. It should be renamed since it's not really 'tipping' anymore.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Nik is going to open up his next pizza to find a nice huge pile of sh!t.

Then I'm going to make a few phone calls and make a HUGE stink about it just out of principle.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: Nik

:roll:

Boofvckinghoo. Get a different job. Not tipping is extremely selfish?

What a fvcking lazy, ungreatful, stupid, self-destructive ideology.

Yes it is. How do you expect them to support a family with practically no income from the employers? If you don't want to tip, carry the food out.

If you think the employers should pay for it, then your food prices go up. Regardless, people are paying for it.

If you feel you are too good for tips, stop eating at a real restraurant and eat Burger King.

Oh the irony, the person who supports tipping is "ungrateful". :roll:

 

[mb]

I tip generously when the service is good (and 15% even if it's just ok), but if a waiter ever asked for a tip before I signed my credit card receipt, I would be offended and would not tip.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: Nik

:roll:

Boofvckinghoo. Get a different job. Not tipping is extremely selfish?

What a fvcking lazy, ungreatful, stupid, self-destructive ideology.

Yes it is. How do you expect them to support a family with practically no income from the employers? If you don't want to tip, carry the food out.

If you think the employers should pay for it, then your food prices go up. Regardless, people are paying for it.

If you feel you are too good for tips, stop eating at a real restraurant and eat Burger King.

Oh the irony, the person who supports tipping is "ungrateful". :roll:

They're ungrateful because they're not the ones being demanded extra money. If I wanted to pay extra, I would have ordered something else to give the company a bigger profit. That's like going to pay your bill and someone going "Surprise, it's going to be an extra 10% on top of your bill. Yes I know that wasn't the agreed upon price, but we're going to expect you to pay it anyway because we can't be bothered to pay our employees."

It's not my problem that a woman with a family to support decides to take a sh|t job that she knows can't support the family. It's not the employer's fault or responsibility to analize the employee's lifestyle to see whether they will be able to handle such a low income or not.

Jesus christ. :|

 

[MommysLittleMonster]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Um, tipping is how a waitress gets their income. My mother is a waitress and her "paycheck" doesn't even exist, its just there to cover her work-insurance. As a matter of fact, she owes a little bit of money every "paycheck". All of the income comes from customers.

Not tipping is being extremely selfish.

:roll:

Boofvckinghoo. Get a different job. Not tipping is extremely selfish?

wow... I haven't found very many things on the forums that actually makes me mad -like, legitimately angry- on the forums. You've just hit one. That is easily one of the most ignorant and enraging things I have ever read on AT. Good job. :thumbsup:

What a fvcking lazy, ungreatful, stupid, self-destructive ideology. :roll:

Sure, leave it to your customers to better your life because you can't seem to get it through your thick fvcking dumbass skull that if you want more money, ask for a raise or get a different job or a second job --or a third or a forth.

Instead of insulting waiters/waitresses (who are smart enough to become one and make $20+ an hour P/T rather than work retail and make $>10), why dont you insult and b!tch about tha actual resturaunt industry and business itself.

You dont want to tip the waiter or waitress? You want to be a cheap d!ck? Forget tips, lets say the resturaunt pays the waiters/waitresses by the hour (maybe $8). A few bucks more than minimum. Suddenly, the salary expense to the company suddenly increased from $2.30 per hour to $ 8 per hour. Now who gets stuck with that difference. You get stuck paying that extra $6.30 the next time you decide to take your woman out to Pizza Hut or Dennys.

Just order carry out or go to the food court in the mall if you really insist on dining out.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: supafly
I tip generously when the service is good (and 15% even if it's just ok), but if a waiter ever asked for a tip before I signed my credit card receipt, I would be offended and would not tip.

Never had that happen, but I am usually a good tipper.

However, this one chinese place in the mall I work at asks for tips. No way, all they do is grab food from a pan and put it on a plate for you and send you on your way. No real service involved there, no tips needed. I never tip fast food places.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster
Suddenly, the salary expense to the company suddenly increased from $2.30 per hour to $ 8 per hour. Now who gets stuck with that difference. You get stuck paying that extra $6.30

Take another look at your math.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Um, tipping is how a waitress gets their income. My mother is a waitress and her "paycheck" doesn't even exist, its just there to cover her work-insurance. As a matter of fact, she owes a little bit of money every "paycheck". All of the income comes from customers.

Not tipping is being extremely selfish.

:roll:

Boofvckinghoo. Get a different job. Not tipping is extremely selfish?

wow... I haven't found very many things on the forums that actually makes me mad -like, legitimately angry- on the forums. You've just hit one. That is easily one of the most ignorant and enraging things I have ever read on AT. Good job. :thumbsup:

What a fvcking lazy, ungreatful, stupid, self-destructive ideology. :roll:

Sure, leave it to your customers to better your life because you can't seem to get it through your thick fvcking dumbass skull that if you want more money, ask for a raise or get a different job or a second job --or a third or a forth.

Instead of insulting waiters/waitresses (who are smart enough to become one and make $20+ an hour P/T rather than work retail and make $>10), why dont you insult and b!tch about tha actual resturaunt industry and business itself.

You dont want to tip the waiter or waitress? You want to be a cheap d!ck? Forget tips, lets say the resturaunt pays the waiters/waitresses by the hour (maybe $8). A few bucks more than minimum. Suddenly, the salary expense to the company suddenly increased from $2.30 per hour to $ 8 per hour. Now who gets stuck with that difference. You get stuck paying that extra $6.30 the next time you decide to take your woman out to Pizza Hut or Dennys.

Just order carry out or go to the food court in the mall if you really insist on dining out.

The restaurant industry does enable their employees to continue along this irrational mentality, yes. Minimum wage should be minimum wage. There shouldn't be a minimum wage for this carreer line or that one. One flat minimum wage. :thumbsup:

whine whine whine

the employee still accepts and maintains the job at that income level. That's their problem, not mine.

 

[MommysLittleMonster]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Most of the world finds it odd that tipping is expected in the USA. It should be renamed since it's not really 'tipping' anymore.

No, in America, it's not really a "tip." It's more of a standard, a norm, when compared to other countries. But if you don't like it, either move out of the country or eat at home.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: supafly
I tip generously when the service is good (and 15% even if it's just ok), but if a waiter ever asked for a tip before I signed my credit card receipt, I would be offended and would not tip.

Never had that happen, but I am usually a good tipper.

However, this one chinese place in the mall I work at asks for tips. No way, all they do is grab food from a pan and put it on a plate for you and send you on your way. No real service involved there, no tips needed. I never tip fast food places.

One time I was at the Texas Roadhouse; food was great, service was timely, the waitress was hot. She brought everybody their check, and we were sitting around finsihing our pitcher of beer. I still hadn't signed anything yet.. she walked by and said "aren't y'all going to tip me?"
Um, yeah, but not as much anymore...

 

[chrisms]

Nik, go ahead and stiff the drivers all you want. All I know is that where I worked, we would mark down the non-tippers and they would be the last to go. For example, if I was hungry, I'd leave a non-tipper's pizza sitting in the bag until I had eaten. I'm not the kind of guy to spit in someone's food (I think few people are), but to think the manager of the joint is going to give a fsck that your order is late when you have the designation of never giving a tip is funny. I remember when people like you would call up and complain because their food was late, we'd just tell them to wait longer. Cancel the order? Please do, it isn't worth it for me to drive two miles to your house, especially when Mr. $5 tip is waiting right here next to you.

It isn't really something that gets me angry. It would when I was a driver, and I'd drive to the complete opposite side of town and get no tip. As for getting another job, that is a really silly statement. The job's pay is made to assume that people will tip you, and 95% do because they realize this.. just because you want to go against the grain doesn't mean you should stiff service workers. The tip is designed to give you some leeway as to how much you want to give for the quality of service rendered.. stiffing someone means they completely fscked up, and in my line of work $2-$3 was the average tip for normal service.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Most of the world finds it odd that tipping is expected in the USA. It should be renamed since it's not really 'tipping' anymore.

No, in America, it's not really a "tip." It's more of a standard, a norm, when compared to other countries. But if you don't like it, either move out of the country or eat at home.

... or rename it a 'service fee', since it's not really a 'tip', is it?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MommysLittleMonster

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Most of the world finds it odd that tipping is expected in the USA. It should be renamed since it's not really 'tipping' anymore.

No, in America, it's not really a "tip." It's more of a standard, a norm, when compared to other countries. But if you don't like it, either move out of the country or eat at home.

Or continue to eat where you wish and pay only what's required of you and let the greedy, selfish, expectant wankers cry because they can't be bothered to look for a second/different job when they don't make enough money? Yeah, I think I'll go with that one.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: chrisms
Nik, go ahead and stiff the drivers all you want. All I know is that where I worked, we would mark down the non-tippers and they would be the last to go. For example, if I was hungry, I'd leave a non-tipper's pizza sitting in the bag until I had eaten. I'm not the kind of guy to spit in someone's food (I think few people are), but to think the manager of the joint is going to give a fsck that your order is late when you have the designation of never giving a tip is funny. I remember when people like you would call up and complain because their food was late, we'd just tell them to wait longer. Cancel the order? Please do, it isn't worth it for me to drive two miles to your house, especially when Mr. $5 tip is waiting right here next to you.

It isn't really something that gets me angry. It would when I was a driver, and I'd drive to the complete opposite side of town and get no tip. As for getting another job, that is a really silly statement. The job's pay is made to assume that people will tip you, and 95% do because they realize this.. just because you want to go against the grain doesn't mean you should stiff service workers. The tip is designed to give you some leeway as to how much you want to give for the quality of service rendered.. stiffing someone means they completely fscked up, and in my line of work $2-$3 was the average tip for normal service.

That's some ridiculously terrible customer service. You're STILL GETTING PAID because I'm STILL PAYING THE BILL. Christ, what the fvck is so hard to understand about that?

So you took a job that you *knew* would pay you next to nothing, kept it, and expected your customers to pay you a paycheck instead of your employer? :laugh:

oh man...

:laugh:

 

[Yossarian]

nothing is better than a thread that nik has to take over with asshole-ness

 

[MagicConch]

When I was at a hotel, they demanded a tip of 17% on the receipt, then had the audicity to put another line that told me to fill in if I wanted to give additional tip on top of that.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
nothing is better than a thread that nik has to take over with asshole-ness

I find it entertaining