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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Amused
I'm glad I was born in the US and wouldn't want to have been born anywhere else.

Amen.

really who gives a monkeys where you are born 😉

It's the nation you owe your allegience (sp?) to, either by birth or naturalisation that should matter to you...

the only reason you'd make a statement like that would be if that country had significantly better medical technology/health care that was crucial to your birth (and AFAIK there'd be no diffference in most of the developed nations today there)..they question is kinda screwy if you know what i mean...?

Um, no.

If I wasn't born here, I would have emigrated here. This is the most libertarian developed nation on earth.

I give my allegiance to the US not because it is my birthplace, but because it is the country whose founding principles most closely matches my ideology.

....thats kinda the point i was trying to make...where you are born doesn't matter...😱

Well, it does in the fact that emigrating is a real pain in the ass. 😛

:beer:

i was lucky, i've ended up with a dual Aus(which gives me NZ as well)/UK (thus EU these days 😛) citizenship thanks to my folks 🙂

but my allegience is 110% in Aus, specifically WA 😉

I like Australia and would agree with you, but one issue in particular really burns me. The individual right to keep and bear arms. That, and the slow march to socialism is happening in Australia almost as fast as in the UK.

what sh1ts me most is the tax rates 😛

 
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Amused
I'm glad I was born in the US and wouldn't want to have been born anywhere else.

Amen.

really who gives a monkeys where you are born 😉

It's the nation you owe your allegience (sp?) to, either by birth or naturalisation that should matter to you...

the only reason you'd make a statement like that would be if that country had significantly better medical technology/health care that was crucial to your birth (and AFAIK there'd be no diffference in most of the developed nations today there)..they question is kinda screwy if you know what i mean...?

Um, no.

If I wasn't born here, I would have emigrated here. This is the most libertarian developed nation on earth.

I give my allegiance to the US not because it is my birthplace, but because it is the country whose founding principles most closely matches my ideology.

....thats kinda the point i was trying to make...where you are born doesn't matter...😱

Well, it does in the fact that emigrating is a real pain in the ass. 😛

:beer:

i was lucky, i've ended up with a dual Aus(which gives me NZ as well)/UK (thus EU these days 😛) citizenship thanks to my folks 🙂

but my allegience is 110% in Aus, specifically WA 😉

I like Australia and would agree with you, but one issue in particular really burns me. The individual right to keep and bear arms. That, and the slow march to socialism is happening in Australia almost as fast as in the UK.

what sh1ts me most is the tax rates 😛

Yep, socialism and wealth redistribution has it's costs.

And, in all cases, the middle classes are the ones that pay the bulk of the bill, simply because they are the majority. Socialism cannot be paid for by the wealthy alone. There simply isn't enough of them and they simply do not have enough money.

So the middle classes are the ones screwed by socialism. Unfortunately, by the time they realize this, it's too late. They've been wooed by class envy and led to believe the wealthy can and will cover everything.
 
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