What do you object to about Christianity?

[PhineasJWhoopee]

No, the Weimer republic and the post-war European depression had a much greater effect on Germany than this Darwinian boogeyman. Nothing brought Hitler to power more than economic strife. The ave voter didn't give a shit about jesus or darwin. They just wanted to eat.

you're such a fucking a tool, phineas. Almost as bad as the asshats that you quote, abusing history and facts to amuse their own perverted mission of social and intellectual terrorism.

What brought Hitler to power isn't the subject of this book. The thesis is policies such as infanticide, assisted suicide, marriage prohibitions and much else were being proposed for those considered racially or eugenically inferior by a variety of Darwinist writers and scientists, providing Hitler and the Nazis with a scientific justification for the policies they pursued once they came to power

 

[sandorski]

I want my nickel back, Coin Operated. Or at least three cents change.

Here ya go

 

[sandorski]

What brought Hitler to power isn't the subject of this book. The thesis is policies such as infanticide, assisted suicide, marriage prohibitions and much else were being proposed for those considered racially or eugenically inferior by a variety of Darwinist writers and scientists, providing Hitler and the Nazis with a scientific justification for the policies they pursued once they came to power

You forgot that the Jews killed Jesus.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Anything is reasonable when you are brainwashed.



I see you completely ignored my analogy. Too logical for you? Yours is a bad analogy. It doesn't matter whether you chose to believe your car was stolen or not. The fact is, when you looked at the driveway you KNEW, without a shadow of a doubt, that your car was gone. Why it was gone, doesn't matter. Your "shock" didn't cause you to see something that wasn't.



lol, no they haven't.

Seeing (or not seeing) what you expect has the same effect: you try to rationalize it in a way that may be irrational.

If I saw my dead father, I might not to rationalize than it was a look a like, or a twin (even though he didn;t have one), etc. My mind would seek an alternative explanation or deny what my eyes were seeing because dead people don't come back to life (except in Jesus' case).

I don't find the reaction to the resurreced Jesus strange at all.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

You forgot that the Jews killed Jesus.

Jesus' death was the result of man's fallen nature.

 

[sandorski]

Jesus' death was the result of man's fallen nature.

Tell that to those who blamed the Jews.

 

[schneiderguy]

Jesus' death was the result of man's fallen nature.

Actually, it was because he had several spikes driven into his extremities. Then he died due blood loss, infection, exposure, or a combination of the three.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Seeing (or not seeing) what you expect has the same effect: you try to rationalize it in a way that may be irrational.

If I saw my dead father, I might not to rationalize than it was a look a like, or a twin (even though he didn;t have one), etc. My mind would seek an alternative explanation or deny what my eyes were seeing because dead people don't come back to life (except in Jesus' case).

I don't find the reaction to the resurreced Jesus strange at all.

In Matthew, it is reported that, after Jesus's resurrection, many graves were opened and the dead were raised and walked around Jerusalem. Since you specified the death and resurrection of Jesus as one special superpower that sets him apart from other religious figures, it's really not that special in this light, is it? It sounds like lots of people came back to life in those times. Hell, even Lazarus did it first. How can you be confident that Jesus did it of his own power? Maybe some really special dude caused all of these resurrections and you should worship him instead.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Bump.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Tell that to those who blamed the Jews.

What are you getting at?

 

[JackBurton]

Seeing (or not seeing) what you expect has the same effect: you try to rationalize it in a way that may be irrational.

If I saw my dead father, I might not to rationalize than it was a look a like, or a twin (even though he didn;t have one), etc. My mind would seek an alternative explanation or deny what my eyes were seeing because dead people don't come back to life (except in Jesus' case).

I don't find the reaction to the resurreced Jesus strange at all.

lol, I can't make you see if you refuse to open your eyes. It sounds like you are content covering your ears and yelling lalalala.

I'm sure the talking donkey in the Bible is perfectly plausible to you too.

 

[sandorski]

In Matthew, it is reported that, after Jesus's resurrection, many graves were opened and the dead were raised and walked around Jerusalem. Since you specified the death and resurrection of Jesus as one special superpower that sets him apart from other religious figures, it's really not that special in this light, is it? It sounds like lots of people came back to life in those times. Hell, even Lazarus did it first. How can you be confident that Jesus did it of his own power? Maybe some really special dude caused all of these resurrections and you should worship him instead.

This actually gives me Hope that the impending Zombie Apocalypse won't be so bad.

 

[sandorski]

What are you getting at?

Hatred of Jews fashioned the Nazi agenda more than Darwin. Specifically the Christian hatred of Jews.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Jesus' death was the result of man's fallen nature.

This is another thing that bothers me about Christianity (and other religions, though not all): the concept of original sin. As Christopher Hitchens puts it, we are born sick and told to be well. Essentially, we are are told that we are broken, undeserving, wormlike creatures from the moment we're born, but the good news is that God made the whole universe just for us and if we play our cards right -- pick the right religion (very important!), try not to kill too many people, don't think about sex too much (especially not with people of the same gender), and so on -- then God will hook us up when we die.

It's a really sad sort of slavery that so many people so willingly enter.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

[SIZE=+2]Walking on Water[/SIZE]
It's the second resurection of Christ. Before the world ends he wants
to take in some fishing. So he gets his friend Moses and they head up
to Minnesota to fish. They are about to rent a canoe when Moses says:
"Jesus, can't you still walk on water? Why not just walk out there?"
So Jesus takes his reel and tackle and steps onto the lake....and falls
knee deep in water.
Moses says, "Well....maybe you need a head start or something, why not
go to the end of the dock and try."
So Jesus takes his reel and tackle and steps off the end of the dock and
falls up to his waist.
Moses says, " Well why not rent the boat, go out to the center of the
lake and try there."
So they rent the boat and go to the middle of the lake, Jesus is about
to step off and try again when...
Moses says, "Wait. Just to be safe, why not get yourself into the state
of mind you were in the first time you did it."
So Jesus sets down, meditates for a few minutes, and finally he's all
psyched up, and steps out of the canoe.... ..and precedes to drown.
So Moses does the water parting thing, and pulls Jesus up into the boat.
Jesus is just beating himself up over this. He just doesn't see what's
going wrong here. Moses just stares down at the bottom of the boat.
Suddenly, Moses says, "I got it! I know what's wrong! Did you have those
holes in your feet last time?!?!"

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

In Matthew, it is reported that, after Jesus's resurrection, many graves were opened and the dead were raised and walked around Jerusalem. Since you specified the death and resurrection of Jesus as one special superpower that sets him apart from other religious figures, it's really not that special in this light, is it? It sounds like lots of people came back to life in those times. Hell, even Lazarus did it first. How can you be confident that Jesus did it of his own power? Maybe some really special dude caused all of these resurrections and you should worship him instead.

John 2:18 - 22

18 Then the Jews answered, and said to HIM, "What sign do you show us that you can do these (things)?" 19 JESUS answered and said to them, "Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up." 20 Then the Jews said, "This Temple was built (in a span of) forty six years! And you in three days will raise it?" 21 But THAT ONE was speaking about the temple of HIS body. 22 When HE was raised from the dead, HIS disciples remembered HE was saying this, and they believed (both) the scripture (verse) and the word which JESUS spoke.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why did the atheist cross the road?

He thought there might be a sidewalk on the other side, but he wouldn’t believe it until he tested his hypothesis.



How many atheists does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to actually change the bulb, and the other to videotape the job so fundamentalists won’t claim that god did it.


An atheist buys an ancient lamp at an auction, takes it home, and begins to polish it. Suddenly, a genie appears, and says, “I’ll grant you three wishes, Master.” The atheist says, “I wish I could believe in you.” The genie snaps his fingers, and suddenly the atheist believes in him. The atheist says, “Wow. I wish all atheists would believe this.” The genie snaps his fingers again, and suddenly atheists all over the world begin to believe in genies. “What about your third wish?” asks the genie. “Well,” says the atheist, “I wish for a billion dollars.” The genie snaps his fingers for a third time, but nothing happens. “What’s wrong?” asks the atheist. The genie shrugs and says, “Just because you believe in me, doesn’t necessarily mean that I really exist.”


An atheist dies and wakes up to find he is in hell. He's really depressed as he stands in the processing line waiting to talk to an admittance counselor. He thinks to himself "I know I lead a wild life but I wasn't that bad. I never thought it would come to this." Looking up he sees that it is his turn to be processed into hell. With fear and a heavy heart, he walks up to the counselor.
Counselor: What's the problem, you look depressed?
Atheist: Well, what do you think? I'm in hell.
Counselor: Hell's not so bad, we actually have a lot of fun. Do you like to drink?
Atheist: Sure, I love to drink.
Counselor: Well then, you are going to love Mondays. On Mondays we drink up a storm. You can have whiskey, rum, tequila, beer, whatever you want and as much a you want. We party all night long. You'll love Mondays. Do you smoke?
Atheist: Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
Counselor: You are going to love Tuesdays. Tuesday is smoke day. You get to smoke the finest cigars and best cigarettes available anywhere. And you smoke to your heart's desire without worrying about cancer because you are already dead! Is that great or what? You are going to love Tuesdays. Do you do drugs?
Atheist: Well in my younger days I experimented a little.
Counselor: You are going to love Wednesdays. That's drug day. You can experiment with any drug you want and you don't have to worry about overdoses or getting hooked because you are already dead. You are going to love Wednesdays. Do you gamble?
Atheist: Yes, I love to gamble.
Counselor: You are going to love Thursdays because we gamble all day and night -- black jack, craps, poker, slots, horse races, everything! You are going to love Thursdays. Are you gay?
Atheist: Uhh...no.
Counselor: Oh , you're gonna hate Fridays...

 

[PottedMeat]

Actually, it was because he had several spikes driven into his extremities. Then he died due blood loss, infection, exposure, or a combination of the three.

i thought it was from asphyxiation? something about having your arms holding up the bulk of your body and screwing up the diaphragm. forgot where i heard this.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

This is another thing that bothers me about Christianity (and other religions, though not all): the concept of original sin. As Christopher Hitchens puts it, we are born sick and told to be well. Essentially, we are are told that we are broken, undeserving, wormlike creatures from the moment we're born, but the good news is that God made the whole universe just for us and if we play our cards right -- pick the right religion (very important!), try not to kill too many people, don't think about sex too much (especially not with people of the same gender), and so on -- then God will hook us up when we die.

It's a really sad sort of slavery that so many people so willingly enter.

Ultimately, it was Jesus' love for humanity that killed him.

Jesus Christ agreed to do God's will, fully conscious of the horrific ramifications that His decision would have had for Him. Yet, He was greatly encouraged by the fact that his future suffering would have brought about salvation for all of humanity: "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" (John 6: 51).

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

God says to Adam, "I have some good news and some bad news. What do you want to hear first?"

Adam says, "Tell me the good news first."

God says, "I'm going to give you a penis and a brain. You'll derive from these great pleasure and great intellect."

Adam replies, "Wonderful! But what's the bad news?"

God says, "I'm only going to give you enough blood supply to work one at a time."

​

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A man wonders if having sex on the Sabbath is a sin because he is not sure if sex is work or play. He asks a priest for his opinion on this question. The priest says after consulting the Bible, "My son, after an exhaustive search I am positive sex is work and is not permitted the Sabbath."

The man thinks: "What does a priest know about sex?"

He goes to minister... a married man, experienced… for the answer. He queries the minister and receives the same reply. Sex is work and not for the Sabbath! Not pleased with the reply, he seeks out the ultimate authority -- a man of thousands of year's tradition and knowledge: a rabbi.

The rabbi ponders the question and states, "My son, sex is definitely play."

The man replies, "rabbi, how can you be so sure when so many others tell me sex is work?"

The rabbi softly speaks, " If sex were work...my wife would have the maid do it."

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

John 2:18 - 22

18 Then the Jews answered, and said to HIM, "What sign do you show us that you can do these (things)?" 19 JESUS answered and said to them, "Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up." 20 Then the Jews said, "This Temple was built (in a span of) forty six years! And you in three days will raise it?" 21 But THAT ONE was speaking about the temple of HIS body. 22 When HE was raised from the dead, HIS disciples remembered HE was saying this, and they believed (both) the scripture (verse) and the word which JESUS spoke.

Good point. So we'll say Jesus did his own raising. But how about all those other chumps? Maybe they all told their buddies the same thing.

Besides that, how come nobody ever gets resurrected any more? God sure performed a lot of smiting and a lot of miracles in the old times, but ever since Jesus, he's been off his game. Maybe he overestimated human credulity, because he seems to be stretching it pretty thin.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Three nuns in church on a hot day decide to remove their robes because of the heat. Not an unusual habit on a hot day. So about a half hour later, the door bell rings while their robes are slumped over pews clear across the huge chapel.

They ask who it is. "The blind man," a voice replies.

The three nuns decide to simply open the door because the man is blind. He walks in, looks at the nuns and says, "Nice tits! Where do you want me to install these blinds?"

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The head priest at a certain church was out for the day, so he asked the deacon to do confession for him. The deacon agrees, and the first person that comes says, "Forgive me, for I just gave a guy a blow job." He says, "You have sinned."

Then he looks at the sheet on the wall that had punishments for certain sins on it, but blow job was not on there, so he went out to ask one of the altar boys what he usually gives for a blow job. The altar boy answered, "Oh, about five dollars."