What do you consider the "midwest"? (in the US)

[zerocool84]

this, exactly. The midwest is that part of the country expected to bail out and support the rest of the country in their failures. We are the middle-class workers of this country that keep the gears turning.

pwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[zinfamous]

That's what I'm saying, high population areas like Chicago and others use the proper word. In that same state, the low population areas say pop. So basically if you say pop we know you live in the middle of no where. Plus all the lowest populated states unanimously say it.

but the graph indicates that Chicago--THE high population region in the midwest--says "pop."

don't take my circumstantial, beer-clouded memory as evidence of anything.

 

[IronWing]

This. The midwest is where the sweet corn grows*. The plains states are the plains states, not part of the midwest.








*That shit you all grow in the rest of the country** is cattle feed.









* Texas is what comes out the other end of the cattle.

 

[Rastus]

The old NBA Midwest division really messed up a lot of people about what states are in the midwest.

 

[zerocool84]

The old NBA Midwest division really messed up a lot of people about what states are in the midwest.

Well considering New Orleans, Memphis, Minnesota, and Oklahoma are considered West, it's safe to say that the people following the way the NBA does it are dumb.

 

[IronWing]

The old NBA Midwest division really messed up a lot of people about what states are in the midwest.

It's even worse when kids learn about the Northwest Ordinance and find out that Wisconsin is in the north west.

 

[yh125d]

This. The midwest is where the sweet corn grows*. The plains states are the plains states, not part of the midwest.

Thank you.





And as for the pop/soda thing, how bout we all just call it Mt. Dew or Coke or Dr Pepper? Is that so hard?

 

[slag]

You talking about kansas? Kansas is most definitely a plains state, NOT a midwest state. There is pretty much no way to consider KS not a plains state, unless youve never ventured more than 50m west of the missouri border

We are a "plains" state but we are in the midwestern part of the US.

 

[BoomerD]

We are a "plains" state but we are in the midwestern part of the US.

That seems to be a distinction missed by many folks here.

The Plains States are part of the Midwest...not separate from it.

 

[yh125d]

That seems to be a distinction missed by many folks here.

The Plains States are part of the Midwest...not separate from it.

No


The plains states are distinctly separate from the midwest. To say that they're part of the midwest for no other reason than they are near it it moronic.

 

[BoomerD]

No


The plains states are distinctly separate from the midwest. To say that they're part of the midwest for no other reason than they are near it it moronic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States

Midwest as defined by U.S. Census Bureau

 

[Gooberlx2]

No


The plains states are distinctly separate from the midwest. To say that they're part of the midwest for no other reason than they are near it it moronic.

I don't understand why the certain GP states can't be included under the Midwest umbrella. Might as well kill the Midwest moniker entirely, and the call them Great Plains and Great Lakes.

 

[rcpratt]

I don't understand why the certain GP states can't be included under the Midwest umbrella. Might as well kill the Midwest moniker entirely, and the call them Great Plains and Great Lakes.

That would be better, I don't want to be associated with those stupid Plainers.

 

[yh125d]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States


Midwest as defined by U.S. Census Bureau

Gerrymandering and nonsense

 

[yh125d]

I don't understand why the certain GP states can't be included under the Midwest umbrella. Might as well kill the Midwest moniker entirely, and the call them Great Plains and Great Lakes.

Can't really justify calling Iowa and Missouri Great Lakes states can ya?

 

[zinfamous]

OK, so how about we just call them ("GP" states) what they really are: "Freeloading states."

 

[Leros]

Seems like ATOT agrees with me

 

[yh125d]

OK, so how about we just call them ("GP" states) what they really are: "Freeloading states."

Fair enough

 

[vi edit]

Fair enough

I wonder how much of that is due to extraordinarily high native american/reservation populations in many of those states? Indian Health Services are huge players in many of them.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Can't really justify calling Iowa and Missouri Great Lakes states can ya?

Call those two the "Forever Alone" states.

 

[yh125d]

I wonder how much of that is due to extraordinarily high native american/reservation populations in many of those states? Indian Health Services are huge players in many of them.

Quite little actually. While #2 in native american population is OK with 262,581 (numbers are from 1999), the next is South Dakota at 11 with 60,335, North Dakota at 19 with 30,522, Kansas at 22 with 23,554, then Nebraska at 33 with 15,216


I think maybe it has more to do with government subsidies in stuff like farming and the petroleum industry

 

[vi edit]

Quite little actually. While #2 in native american population is OK with 262,581 (numbers are from 1999), the next is South Dakota at 11 with 60,335, North Dakota at 19 with 30,522, Kansas at 22 with 23,554, then Nebraska at 33 with 15,216


I think maybe it has more to do with government subsidies in stuff like farming and the petroleum industry

Uh SD only has like 800k people so by % thats a huge number. Same with NE and ND that have low pops too.

 

[yh125d]

They are in order, 7.8%, 8.2%, 4.8%, .9%, .9%

 

[Spike]

Fair enough

This chart seems incorrect somehow... either that or the states not on it are really getting screwed. I mean c'mon, we are always spending into deficit anyway so shouldn't all states be getting more than they give?

Oh, and here in the Seattle area I hear "pop" way more often than "soda" Oddly enough it's the opinion of many that "soda" is what they call it in the south but the graphic shows they use the term "coke" much more often so go figure.

 

[nageov3t]

all of the states containing no part of the Rocky or Appalachian Mountains and not bordering an ocean.