yes but it works fine and even trim works
http://www.overclock.net/t/1428462/ssd-on-intel-ich7-and-trim/10#post_20900001
http://www.overclock.net/t/1428462/ssd-on-intel-ich7-and-trim/10#post_20900001
Unless you OC the FX 4350 beyond 4.5 Ghz, the Phenom II X4 is FAR betterYou can get a new FX-4350 from Newegg for $74.99. You can get a Gigabyte UD3P 970 also for $74.99. That's not too bad for a basic system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113326
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651
Spend a bit more and they have an FX-6350 for $90.89 with a promo code (EMCATNV28).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327
Kind of makes buying a used Phenom II X4 a silly proposition.
Unless you OC the FX 4350 beyond 4.5 Ghz, the Phenom II X4 is FAR better
Some passmark comparisons:
(I added E5-1620 to the list below)
i7 4790K ($339, 88W): 11237 CPU Marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4790K+@+4.00GHz
i7 4790 ($305, 84W): 10074 CPu marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4790+@+3.60GHz
i5 4670 ($224, 84W): 7407 CPU marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4670+@+3.40GHz
E5-1620 ($195 shipped*,130W): 9100 CPU marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-1620+@+3.60GHz
i7-2600 ($150 shipped*, 95W): 8267 CPU marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600+@+3.40GHz&id=1
*on ebay "buy it now" listings
Some notes:
1.) i7-2600 increased in price $20 since I first listed it in this thread (This most likely due to the fact there are only a small amount of listings for this processor which adds to the variability of "buy it now" pricing)
2.) Both i7-2600 and E5-1620 are Sandy Bridge 4C/8T processors. The E5-1620 is a LGA 2011 processor with 200 Mhz higher base clocks and more cache (10MB vs. 8MB ) compared to i7 2600. Both processors have 3.8 Ghz turbo.
I was lucky to get my 2500K chip for $150 at MC on BF, I've seen some used chips in the $130-140 range...
You can get a new FX-4350 from Newegg for $74.99. You can get a Gigabyte UD3P 970 also for $74.99. That's not too bad for a basic system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113326
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651
Spend a bit more and they have an FX-6350 for $90.89 with a promo code (EMCATNV28).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113327
Kind of makes buying a used Phenom II X4 a silly proposition.
I broke down & bought the Xeon E5640 quad core with H/T for $15 & intend to prove it's the best value in used processors. Cinebench scores in a week.
Intel Xeon E5640 CPU $15
Intel Extreme Cooler $16
Gigabyte X58 board $60
Kingston 12Gb kit $37
Running with the big boys.. priceless
Yeah, I've shopped for i5 2500, 2400s because I wanted vt-d and I've seen the same. Newegg is actually selling refurb i5-2400 (non-K) for $200. That's what I bought my 2500K for back in 2011 or something. A refurb one now costs more than a new one did...4 years ago.
Its not a surprise though, to get the same performance out of a new chip I think you're looking at around $200 anyway. So why not buy the old one for $50-70 off when there is essentially no performance difference?
As another said, there's not really much point to i3s. They perform fine, but a used chip performs better and has 4 cores and more features while costing the same. Going up from the $50 budget chips to $120 i3s seemed to buy you very little.
The only thing I can say about i3s now is s1155 motherboards are disappearing meaning its going to be harder to put those still awesome used i5 chips to use. But that's kind of the point of this thread...the old chips are as good as the new but since no one is making motherboards anymore (probably because intel stopped making the chipsets, not because of lack of demand) the chips become useless.
If I'm honest with myself I've only been upgrading because of habit. And its been so fruitless that even that has fallen to the wayside for me.
E8600 looks quite appealing for $20 on Ebay,got a Dell Inspiron 518 recently with a E5200 and for anyone not wanting to bother googling its specs its 2.5ghz with 2mb l2 cache and a 800fsb.
Q9650 i know is compatible but its nearly $50 and slower core wise then the E8600 and for the 2 games i play and casual youtubing/netflixing the E8600 would be the best upgrade ever i believe.
Rig is already running one of my spare ssds and some spare ddr2 has given me a total of 6gb.
The thread is about "Best value in a used processor today"
A $15 over clocked 80 watt Xeon that runs with a 3770K IS "the best value today"..
@skipsneeky2:
Your Inspiron 518 can also take 5xxx Xeon:
http://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/3/#dell
So eventually you could also mod with the Xeon E5440 (80W LGA 771 Xeon equivalent to Q9550) for $17 plus $2 or $3 sticker or E5450 (80W LGA 771 Xeon equivalent to Q9650) for $25 plus $2 or $3 sticker . My experience with doing LGA 771 mod here--> http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36890787&postcount=39
Was reading on that, was under the impression i needed to really tinker with the Bios or mod it and that actually scared me off.If its just a plug and play operation,i will eventually drop the E5450 in.