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What do you consider fat?

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Originally posted by: NSFW
On a chick, over 110 pounds.

On a dude...search youtube for "single ladies".
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I'm almost 5 ft 9, I'd be close to death at 110 pounds
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: rh71
those latest Jessica Simpson pics - she's still not fat in my book.
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Dude, you need a new book. She's definitely fat.
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Rosie O'Donnell is fat. Roseanne Bar / Arnold is fat.
 
Originally posted by: Finalnight
BMI greater than 26
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I'm sure Lou and Arnold were morbidly obese during the height of their career :roll:

BMI is bullshit. Body fat percentage is the way to go.
 
Girls have to be in proportion. A female that is 5'0" shouldnt be over 110. However a girl that's 5'9" and 140 still could be proportionate depending on size of breasts and % of muscle.

Guys, around 225 you are starting to get in the range of fat no matter how tall you are (depending on the amount of muscle you have)
Girls, around 160 is too large for me to consider you attractive (regardless of how much muscle you have)

It's all subjective.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
BMI always seemed weird to me. I mean, couldn't you be big but loaded with muscle and be considered obese?
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If you've got so much muscle you are in the obese category without being fat, you're pretty damned ripped.

Now, I would say that it would be pretty easy for someone to be in the overweight category purely from extra muscle.

But to go from normal to obese purely on muscle alone seems unlikely to me. I would think that someone can be slightly overweight but their muscle pushes them into obese-land. But the combination of low body-fat% and an obese-range BMI is probably reserved for the elite level of bodybuilders.

edit: say, for example you have a 5'8" person. 24.9 BMI (just at the edge of normal) is 164 lbs. To get to obese, he would have to be 197lbs for a BMI of 30. Assume he added pure muscle to get there. That's 33lbs of muscle. Not impossible, but it's also not a trivial amount of beefcake. Joe Blow isn't going to get that to happen just by deciding to pop into the gym for 3 weeks.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
BMI always seemed weird to me. I mean, couldn't you be big but loaded with muscle and be considered obese?
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BMI has its flaws, but it's good for comparing a majority of people and giving a rough estimate of what is a healthy weight to height ratio.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
BMI always seemed weird to me. I mean, couldn't you be big but loaded with muscle and be considered obese?
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My BMI is on the verge of overweight, so yes. BMI is a terrible system.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Fat isn't subjective or healthy.

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
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Fat is subjective because it's a perception, obesity less so (though still a little). However, BMI is utter crap and no one with intelligence above a kumquat should be sucked into it. It completely fails to account for body types, muscle density, or a host of other issues.

For common home use bio-electric impedance is the best option for measuring fat, but only if you get a quality reader and average it over time.
 
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