what do people think about candace owens george floyd video?

[DAPUNISHER]

Every Receipt Proving Candace Owens Is A Con Artist Who Is Following The Money

We have the receipts for Candace Owens' bizarre, hypocritical, self-serving history.

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here's a bit more

After browsing through that, I predict she will have her own 1 hour slot on Fox News soon.

 

[killster1]

Here is the same opinion are you going to call him a uncle Tom too? That he is trying to make money?

 

[woolfe9998]

she seems well spoken. very interesting statistics . 18x more likely for police to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by police. I know i have had the police pull guns on me multiple times and had to lay on the ground as they pointed a shotgun at my head.
Candace Owens took to her Facebook Live to address why she does not support George Floyd.

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admin allisolm

I don't disagree with everything she says. So, for example, I see her point that there is a difference between condemning what the police did to Floyd and deifying Floyd the person as a martyr. I was aware of Floyd's extensive rap sheet for violent offenses and multiple incarcerations.

However, the unsourced statistics that she cites toward the end are ridiculous. Let's take the one you mention above, that police are 18x more likely to be killed by black people than black people are to be killed by police. This literally cannot be true.

Last year, 49 police were killed in the US as a result of "felonious acts."

FBI Releases 2019 Statistics on Law Enforcement Officers Killed in the Line of Duty | Federal Bureau of Investigation

According to statistics reported to the FBI, 89 law enforcement officers were killed in line-of-duty incidents in 2019. Of these, 48 officers died as a result of felonious acts, and 41 officers died in accidents.

www.fbi.gov

The stats there don't give the ethnic identity of the killers. However, since blacks are said the be responsible for 40% of US murders overall, let's bend over backwards for her and say that 50% of those 49 cops were killed by blacks. So say 25 cops killed by blacks. For her "18x" number to be correct, that means the police killed 1.4 black people in all of 2019!

There are stats about how many blacks are killed by cops every year, but I'm not going to bother wasting my time looking them up, because we all know how absurd this is already. Her statistic is probably inverted.

She starts with a valid point but craps the bed toward the end of the video by using grossly inaccurate, likely made up, statistics when she tries to address the larger picture.

 

[HomerJS]

she seems well spoken. very interesting statistics . 18x more likely for police to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by police. I know i have had the police pull guns on me multiple times and had to lay on the ground as they pointed a shotgun at my head.
Candace Owens took to her Facebook Live to address why she does not support George Floyd.

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admin allisolm

I already know her M.O. self hating black chick. However besides that her and you do not recognize the universe size difference being the victim of violent crime vs crimes committed by people given the power of the bad and the gun by the state.

Raw numbers don't tell the real story.

 

[Commodus]

I guess you didn't watch the whole video. She was on c span defending herself since they chopped the video to make you think exactly that. I also said I have first hand experience with police and I hate them, (I have friends who are highway patrol tho but still hate cops as a whole) that doesn't mean I wish them harm or would protest anything. I was happy to see the national guard finally step in to give some control. This does seem like a ploy to out the president more then get justice for a police brutality. Interesting to read everyone's view on it. I have tons of friends who are black and none of them have had police brutality or even guns drawn on them. But many Spanish friends have given me stories of police hurting and drawing weapons on them.

You literally pulled the "some of my friends are black" card.

If you really think this is just an excuse to attack Trump, you haven't been paying attention. At all. This is just a breaking point for an issue that has existed for years, decades... arguably centuries. And it only looks bad for the President if the President is bad at bringing people together. If Trump is threatening illegal use of the military, dismissing the protests as a conspiracy and retreating to the White House bunker, that shows the problem is with him, not the protesters.

For that matter, if you're really going to pull the "I know black people" stunt... well, my sister-in-law is black, and she definitely supports these protests. She should never have to worry about whether or not her son will survive a police stop when he grows up (or, for that matter, whether or not he'll be stopped arbitrarily). Just because you live in a bubble where you've never seen or worried about anti-black police behavior doesn't mean you can speak for the community.

 

[HomerJS]

Here is the same opinion are you going to call him a uncle Tom too? That he is trying to make money?

His I watched. Same problem with him using raw number like CO. Also he is equating gangs with all black people.

 

[woolfe9998]

I already know her M.O. self hating black chick. However besides that her and you do not recognize the universe size difference being the victim of violent crime vs crimes committed by people given the power of the bad and the gun by the state.

Raw numbers don't tell the real story.

See my post above. She's using fake statistics. That issue has to be addressed before we even get to "raw numbers don't tell the real story" because you have to start with real numbers before you even get there and Owens isn't using real numbers.

 

[ewdotson]

And it only looks bad for the President if the President is bad at bringing people together.

This is so very true. If Trump were actually good at his job, this would have been an opportunity for him to do real good in an "only Nixon could go to China" sort of way. Instead, we get … *gestures everywhere* … this.

 

[woolfe9998]

This is so very true. If Trump were actually good at his job, this would have been an opportunity for him to do real good in an "only Nixon could go to China" sort of way. Instead, we get … *gestures everywhere* … this.

Because Trump is afraid of losing his base if he oh, say, personally visits the Floyd family to express sympathies, publicly decries police violence against blacks, etc. The interesting point here is not just Trump per se, but what it says about the nature and character of Trump's base if Trump has reason to fear losing them over being sympathetic when a black man is murdered by cops in the plain light of day and on video.

 

[killster1]

His I watched. Same problem with him using raw number like CO. Also he is equating gangs with all black people.

Nah he's saying the same as her. Blacks need to uplift themselves educate themselves stay out of crime and make a change. Its true that they are the only race that puts thugs as heros and role models

Your (bolded by me) statement above is as ignorant as it is unwelcome on our forums.

Perknose
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[Svnla]

As I said before in another thread, the knee of the cop on GF for several minutes was horrible. Now if GF was struggling and fought with the cops then it was one thing but he was on the ground and not a threat anymore. The cop(s) should take him to jail. GF was no angel at all but what happened for several minutes when he was on the ground was not acceptable to me.

Oh and rioters and looters suck, especially when they did all of the damage on small businesses/mom and pop locations.

 

[Gabe323]

Every thread dealing with a black person's death has some idiot come in and post youtubes from another black person like it's a dare to say something negative about them.

 

[snoopy7548]

Every thread dealing with a black person's death has some idiot come in and post youtubes from another black person like it's a dare to say something negative about them.

It's because they can't think for themselves.

 

[brycejones]

It’s simple was he under control? Was the office using an acceptable technique to bring him under control? Did he die in police custody because of the technique being used?

It’s the actions of the officers that are at question here after they had A suspect under control. The dead mans history is immaterial.

 

[soundforbjt]

It's because they can't think for themselves.

No, they think just fine for themselves. What the video does is give them cover for being not the only ones who find the outcome justifiable in some way.

 

[theeedude]

She's a propagandist for PragerU, etc, this is her job. If she changed her mind or stopped spewing this, she'd lose her income.
But it's hilarious that she's the one Pence invited to a forum on anti-black police violence.

 

[woolfe9998]

It’s simple was he under control? Was the office using an acceptable technique to bring him under control? Did he die in police custody because of the technique being used?

It’s the actions of the officers that are at question here after they had A suspect under control. The dead mans history is immaterial.

Off point. The first video concedes that the killing was unjustified and that the officers need to go to prison. The second video says nothing about Floyd. It's a black guy talking about black on black violence.

 

[dank69]

Nah he's saying the same as her. Blacks need to uplift themselves educate themselves stay out of crime and make a change. Its true that they are the only race that puts thugs as heros and role models

Thugs like our forefathers who violently overthrew their oppressive government because taxes were too high?

In case you are confused, let me be crystal clear. You are an ignorant racist. You should shut the fuck up and go back to edging to black snuff films with your Stormfront friends. Or wherever the hell you shitstains congregate these days.

 

[Jhhnn]

But many Spanish friends have given me stories of police hurting and drawing weapons on them.

You need to brush up on American vernacular. That's a dead giveaway that you're probably not American.

 

[Vic]

I love these threads. We're supposed to ignore the statements of countless numbers of black Americans because the right-wingers found a couple of "token negroes" they agree with.

 

[Vic]

Nah he's saying the same as her. Blacks need to uplift themselves educate themselves stay out of crime and make a change. Its true that they are the only race that puts thugs as heros and role models

Your (bolded by me) statement above is as ignorant as it is unwelcome on our forums.

Perknose
Forum Director

You're not a racist, you just happen to paint ALL black people with the same insultingly derogatory broadbrush because deep down you really want what's best for them, right?

Thanks, Perk.

 

[brycejones]

Nah he's saying the same as her. Blacks need to uplift themselves educate themselves stay out of crime and make a change. Its true that they are the only race that puts thugs as heros and role models

Your (bolded by me) statement above is as ignorant as it is unwelcome on our forums.

Perknose
Forum Director

I do appreciate you outing your true beliefs and exposing that YOU are the fucking problem.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I guess you didn't watch the whole video. She was on c span defending herself since they chopped the video to make you think exactly that. I also said I have first hand experience with police and I hate them, (I have friends who are highway patrol tho but still hate cops as a whole) that doesn't mean I wish them harm or would protest anything. I was happy to see the national guard finally step in to give some control. This does seem like a ploy to out the president more then get justice for a police brutality. Interesting to read everyone's view on it. I have tons of friends who are black and none of them have had police brutality or even guns drawn on them. But many Spanish friends have given me stories of police hurting and drawing weapons on them.

Nah man, you don't get it. I didn't watch ANY of the video and won't watch the video, because I don't take her seriously. One day she's this and the next day she's that. I wouldn't be surprised if she even believes the bullshit she spews. Similar to Trump. The only reason I watch videos of Trump and pay attention to what he says is because he's the POTUS. If he wasn't, i would look at him the same way I look at Owens and treat him the same way. Grifters are gonna grift.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Nah man, you don't get it. I didn't watch ANY of the video and won't watch the video, because I don't take her seriously. One day she's this and the next day she's that. I wouldn't be surprised if she even believes the bullshit she spews. Similar to Trump. The only reason I watch videos of Trump and pay attention to what he says is because he's the POTUS. If he wasn't, i would look at him the same way I look at Owens and treat him the same way. Grifters are gonna grift.

Good for you. Why would anyone would watch a video from her is beyond me.

To the people who who like candace owens, do some research on her. If you still like her after that then you are just an idiot.

 

[Maxima1]

So a dog is more likely to bite a person that a person is to bite a dog. So it's okay to kill any dog if they misbehave? Excellent logic. Why are some people so fucking stupid?

The grievance has been that they're being killed because of the white supremacy. Owens is pointing out that black people make up a disproportionate amount of violent crime, so it is expected that more of them will be killed by cops. This is easily seen with men vs. women death by cop or the varying rate between racial groups with Asians being the least likely.

The stats there don't give the ethnic identity of the killers. However, since blacks are said the be responsible for 40% of US murders overall, let's bend over backwards for her and say that 50% of those 49 cops were killed by blacks. So say 25 cops killed by blacks. For her "18x" number to be correct, that means the police killed 1.4 black people in all of 2019!

There are stats about how many blacks are killed by cops every year, but I'm not going to bother wasting my time looking them up, because we all know how absurd this is already. Her statistic is probably inverted.

She starts with a valid point but craps the bed toward the end of the video by using grossly inaccurate, likely made up, statistics when she tries to address the larger picture.

That can't be how it was calculated. That wouldn't even be a probability difference. It was probably utilizing the number of cops in US and a part of the black population interacting with police (which would be of course much higher) vs. the number of each group that died. Mind you, this is about unarmed black people, which may have been adjusted further i.e. not all "unarmed" people were doing nothing (e.g. trying to take taser away will be classified as "unarmed").