What did Steve Jobs invent or thought up himself?

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LOL_Wut_Axel

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He's known as a pioneer, not because of inventions, but because of his vision. That's what many people don't get.

It's one thing to invent a product, and it's another one to implement it right so Average Joe and tech enthusiasts alike can both use it. That's why the iPod and iPhone in particular were/are so successful.
 
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OverVolt

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I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs just did things right. Everyone makes him out to be greater than he really was, but with the iPhone when it first came out I did think it was a cool idea.

Same with the fall of Napster and the trouble with the music industry, he just saw what was going on and applied resources to what he thought would be an ACTUAL solution, no magic 8 ball, no predicting the future. He just saw current problems and thought about it with a clear head.
 

alkemyst

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I don't consider him a genius, just a great marketer. He really only nabbed success when the iPod somehow became a status symbol. It just blew up from there. His cancer diagnosis only served to make him sympathetic, which helped even more.

I don't know where you 'people' get this misguided belief on Jobs.

It's seems the anti-apple people are the real zealots.

The iPod was not so much status symbol at first but rather the execution of what became the most perfect HD based music player.

Prior to the iPod, the Apple ][ put him and Woz in the minds of the home computer shopper. The Mac really cinched that deal. The lower economic strata latched onto the Vic 20 and Commodore 64 mostly. The rest of the lineup TRS, Apple, etc were scattered. Most didn't dive into the IBM PC/AT/XT market for a family computer, even if they had them in a home office.

Jobs had a lot of input on the design of these widgets...he also had a lot of input on all the other aspects. He may have not been the engineer or the coder, but anyone that does this kind of stuff knows it's the IDEA that is the hard part...the rest is just implementation.
 

HeXen

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so, so many Apple and Jobs related threads. Not to worry though, by this time next year all these threads will be replaced with MS w8 threads with the same level of negativity.

can't you guys ever be happy with anything?
 

Locut0s

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so, so many Apple and Jobs related threads. Not to worry though, by this time next year all these threads will be replaced with MS w8 threads with the same level of negativity.

can't you guys ever be happy with anything?

Win8 looks set to spawn a particular shitload of hate like we haven't seen for MS in some time. Cause of its Metro UI.
 

lowrider69

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iPod?iPhone? iPad? Didn't all these technologies already developed prior to Apple corps success? Was the idea of the iPhone solely his idea or was it his R&D team's idea but he gets the credit for being CEO? How is he known as the pioneer of our time?


He accomplished more than you ever will. That's all you need to know. :thumbsup:
 

Todd33

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How many Fortune 100 companies have you started in your garage?

I know a CEO of a $1B company, he is a giant douche who never had an original idea in his life. He just happened to have rich parents who gave him seed money. And no, the company wasn't his idea either.
 

LikeLinus

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I can't wait till we no longer have to talk about it.

The absolute worst thing I've seen was an article that said Steve Jobs revolutionized and changed the movie industry with Pixar. That animation movies and Disney owe it to him because of his vision.

What a load a f'ing BS. Steve Jobs NEVER bought Pixar with the intent to make animated movies. John Lasseter is the one that had to talk Steve Jobs into allowing him to make some movies. Steve bought it because of it's technology it was creating and wanted the tech behind it. It is ONLY because of John that Pixar became what it is. Steve Jobs didn't do a goddamn thing other than buy the company and give it financing.

Then you have idiots saying things like:
"They reinvented the music industry to accommodate the MP3."

Please god tell me you're joking? The Internet and Napster were the ones who really revolutionized music as we see it today. They took control of the music out of the hands of 5 dominant music companies and put it in the hands of the world at no cost and with immediate access.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Steve Jobs probably reflexively kicked himself in the face every time the name "Thinkpad" was mentioned. It is a totally awesome name that should have been thought of by Apple first. That the sticks-in-the-mud at IBM came up with it before Apple probably still bugs him.

I was referring to the thread title...
 

MotionMan

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Why does one have to invent something to get credit for being great?

Great painters did not invent painting. Great architects did not invent architecture. Great baseball players did not invent baseball.

They took existing thing and made them better than anyone before them ever has and, perhaps, better than anyone who follows them ever will.

Under Steve Jobs, Apple took things or ideas that existed and turned them into must-have items like no one has ever done before.

Jobs was the Picasso, Frank Lloyd Wright and Babe Ruth of the tech industry. It is like someone would say, "Ruth was a great hitter, but he did not invent the home run, so why all the fuss?"

MotionMan
 

GrumpyMan

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I don't know why people want to make Jobs into a God of inventions. He was just a good manager and salesman. That's it. His name is on patents because he owned the company, and any inventions that happen on company property belong to the company.
 

zinfamous

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Why does one have to invent something to get credit for being great?

Great painters did not invent painting. Great architects did not invent architecture. Great baseball players did not invent baseball.

They took existing thing and made them better than anyone before them ever has and, perhaps, better than anyone who follows them ever will.

Under Steve Jobs, Apple took things or ideas that existed and turned them into must-have items like no one has ever done before.

Jobs was the Picasso, Frank Lloyd Wright and Babe Ruth of the tech industry. It is like someone would say, "Ruth was a great hitter, but he did not invent the home run, so why all the fuss?"

MotionMan

Well, DaVinci actually painted The Annunciation and Mona Lisa--Michelangelo actually painted the Last Judgement, the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel (with his studio, of course), he created Il David, Moses, La Pieta.

At the same time, these great artists had studios, employing a stable of artists to complete the many, many projects that the masters had designed and had been commissioned to complete. They directed, and their employees set about crafting these large commissioned projects (like the tomb of Julius II), to have the Master's name stamped on top of it.

The latter model, the Studio model--is Jobs. Not so much to discredit his ability to direct; but the real Masters--he actually liked to consider himself an artist--the real Artists touched chisel to stone, brush to plaster, and developed into great directors, while also creating great work until the end of their life (the Dome of St Peters, the 3rd Pieta...).

Jobs didn't touch, or create, a single one of his creations. He strong-armed talent to do his work.


Jobs was not Picasso or Wright--are you going to argue that Picasso never painted a single one of his works?

Babe Ruth didn't simply take credit for those home runs. He actually hit them.
 
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thepd7

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How many Fortune 100 companies have you started in your garage?

This.


Tablets and capacitive screens were around WELL before Apple did anything with them. And Apple didn't "reinvent the music industry". Hell, the music industry would LOVE to see Apple DIAF, given Apple gets to rake them over the coals in terms of royalty licensing (Apple always gets favorable terms, lest Apple tells the RIAA to fuck off).

There, I disputed. Apple contributed NOTHING technologically to the game. Jobs was simply better at making existing technology appealing by wearing a black turtleneck and telling his loyal Applemmings to go buy overpriced shit.

Are you crazy? Apple did nothing except make technology appealing? Wow man, I'm not an Apple fan (got an iphone last year, no other Apple products) but it's obvious what Apple has done for the industry.
 

Absolution75

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Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet

He designed Breakout for Atari -and some other stuff, can't remember though.