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What Countries are good for Americans to Emigrate to?

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Canada.

I should be applying in a few years. I've been feeding a system where I won't see any benefit from. So, I might as well be a Canadian citizen, contribute to the government and actually see something from said government when I am old.

The US is for the war mongering, xenophobic, fingermen of the rich. They love to piss into the wind of change but when they get covered in their own urine, they place the fault on Muslims, Arabs and anyone else who is brown.

These diseased fingermen allow the rich to use their mouths as toilets, ask for more and use the words "please" & "thank you".

It's disgusting how willingly Americans have allowed hate, fear and greed to destroy this nation. And, it all happened in the last 4 decades. A nation that was able to affect and influence the world, for the greater good, turned into a money making goon for the rich.
 
It's disgusting how willingly Americans have allowed hate, fear and greed to destroy this nation.
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Agree with this. I can hardly watch the politicians debate. Damn near to a one all they are capable of speaking is rhetoric and pedagogue. And people eat it up like sharks to chum.

I have no idea if the same kind of idiocy has infested Canadian politics. I'd be surprised if it hasn't, but who knows.
 
I would choose NZ if it was easier to get into. They have a pretty strick skill set requirement to get in. Australia probably wouldnt be bad either. Ive thought about leaving as well. The US is the Titanic. Its already hit the ice berg. Just waiting for it to sink.
 
shiner said:
I've offered to send him on a one way trip there, so far he isn't taking me up on it. All he does instead is hope the U.S. becomes such a place

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Yes, that is me he quoted in his response. 😀
 
Doppel said:
Agree with this. I can hardly watch the politicians debate. Damn near to a one all they are capable of speaking is rhetoric and pedagogue. And people eat it up like sharks to chum.

I have no idea if the same kind of idiocy has infested Canadian politics. I'd be surprised if it hasn't, but who knows.
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There is always some idiocy, but not even measurable against the USA politics.

Americans are far more "loyal" to one party regardless of actual issues, which contributes big time to the idiocy.
 
J-Money said:
There is always some idiocy, but not even measurable against the USA politics.

Americans are far more "loyal" to one party regardless of actual issues, which contributes big time to the idiocy.
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True that. The last Canadian election really surprised me. One of the two major parties lost a huge amount of seats, and that third party nobody cares about is now the official opposition. People jump ship and go to another party without hesitation :thumbsup:
 
dmcowen674 said:
It is evident that those that used to be middle class but have been successfully knocked down by the Republican plan to eliminate the middle class have to leave the U.S.

What Countries are good for Americans to Emigrate to?

That an American can get a job

That an American can change citizenship to

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I hear Somalia is wide open these days. Maybe Libya will be in the near future.
 
You can emigrate to what may seem to be a better environment if you have a skill set which is highly desirable and in short supply in another nation and haven't a criminal record. America has just about the lowest admission standards.

You will find that the Pearly Gates of other First World nations are eternally closed to you. Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion..
 
Europe is in worse shape than the US so your options are pretty much limited to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. NZ last time I checked though was almost impossible to get into after the age of 30 and limited at that. You can get a job in an Arab country though like Dubai. Not sure about Australia and Canada.

Your other option is to maybe suck it up and not accrue lots of debt. Americans that have problems are those with debt who bought into the housing bubble. The rest of us are pretty much fine. I could handle a 20% drop in salary and wait it out assuming our politicians fix things in my lifetime. Unemployment is limited to those with poor education. If you can't find a job in your state you can find one in another. The USA is huge and you probably don't need to leave the country - just the state.

If you're serious about leaving start looking at employment numbers for your sector, gdp growth, inflation, currency value, etc. If you choose to leave the country you will find an array of other issues you have to deal with such as the dollar being worth squat and you having to pay an exchange rate. Then there are healthcare and education issues to deal with. You might have to buy a new car and pay a couple thousand dollars for a drivers license. The list keeps growing. Are you prepared to pay thousands of dollars to move your things to a new country or are you just going to completely start over?

Honestly the best advice I can give an American without dual citizenship is to stay home. Switch states if you have to. Unless you are a specialist and willing to move to a place like Dubai where you can make lots of money in say construction you really have few grass is greener on the other side options. Even then in a place like Dubai you probably will find your quality of living standards much lower than expected. Now is the time to just reevaluate your living conditions. Don't buy a new TV every 3 years, your car will last past 100,000 miles, you don't need every model of iphone, renting is ok and probably cheaper than owning right now, etc.
 
ShawnD1 said:
True that. The last Canadian election really surprised me. One of the two major parties lost a huge amount of seats, and that third party nobody cares about is now the official opposition. People jump ship and go to another party without hesitation :thumbsup:
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We're too conservative for that here in America. Certain people, I don't know who they are, Republicans for the most part, I suppose, have managed to make "liberal" a dirty word, and put a glow on "conservative" that truly boggles the mind. AFAIK, but I'm not a historian, there have been two major parties in the USA that have dominated the political arena for at least the last 150 years. There are a lot of unaffiliated voters nowadays, "independents" as they are called, but they are regarded as just people who aren't in tow of either major party. Those who are aligned with an actual "3rd party" are generally regarded as cultists, weirdos, malcontents, which are constantly being spawned here and there, just scan the gazettes or your TV news.
 
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Honestly the best advice I can give an American without dual citizenship is to stay home. Switch states if you have to.

Now is the time to just reevaluate your living conditions.

Don't buy a new TV every 3 years, your car will last past 100,000 miles, you don't need every model of iphone, renting is ok and probably cheaper than owning right now, etc.
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Have done all of the above but wages are going down or at least stagnate while cost of living is skyrocketing.

What answer do you have for that?

Sounds like you are a typical rich Republican, probably a CEO not affected by skyrocketing cost of living.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Have done all of the above but wages are going down or at least stagnate while cost of living is skyrocketing.

What answer do you have for that?

Sounds like you are a typical rich Republican, probably a CEO not affected by skyrocketing cost of living.
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He answered your question with good advice. Why be an ass about? In any case, like the US, Canada frowns upon people with records. That probation you got might raise alarms even if you do try and move (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1782050.stm). I doubt Canada wants you any more than the various employers I read let you go over the years. That old saying it's not you it's me, well I doubt you've heard that before, because it is you.
 
You probably should go to brazil if you're rich and can get a good job.
You live in gated communities and send your kids to private schools and profit from economic growth.

If you're filthy rich, you can live well anywhere.
 
@OP
Canada is your best bet. The culture is nearly identical (for British areas, at least, unless you are used to New Orleans culture), etc. If you get the accent right, you might even blend in.

The main thing that about Canada is the fact that one will have to swear loyalty to The Queen. I detest monarchies and I could never bring myself to swear loyalty to a monarch.

Personally, I'm reluctant to even surrender citizenship of my home US State, even if it means slightly lower taxes in the US state I'm working in. I still feel proud to call myself a citizen of my home state even though I have not lived there for over 2.5 years. So, I don't think I could bring myself to surrender my status as an American, as I do not believe in dual citizenship for philosophical reasons.

sactoking said:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19363_6-reasons-your-plans-to-move-abroad-might-not-work-out.html
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Hahahaha, I love Cracked.

I would recommend going to countries like China, Brazil, India, Indonesia, Turkey, etc. Those are the countries of the future. I imagine that many of them might have archaic citizenship rules though.
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It might be different in a hundred years, but if you are an average person in those countries, life is not good. My girlfriend is from China, a friend of mine is from Indonesia and I've spoken with many Indians in graduate school. In short, unless you are in the inner ruling party, born into the proper caste or you are very wealthy, you do not want to live in any of those countries. I exclude Turkey and Brazil from this as I do not know much about them.
 
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