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What class percentile do you fall into?

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IeraseU

Senior member
Aug 25, 2004
778
0
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Originally posted by: piasabird
Often wealth does not make a person happy anyway. It is all relative. I have often seen people that had menial jobs that seemed quite happy. The mere concept of class is somehow unamerican.

I do think you can be happy with a low income as long as you did not in the past have a very high income and then via some unfortunate circumstance you lost it. Losing something you don't have, or in other words wishing for something you've never experienced is not as painful as having something and then one day losing it.

 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
39,230
701
126
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I'm pleasantly surprised by this thread, I was expecting the normal ATOT response where everybody makes over 100K and they all have master's degrees and paper their walls with 100 dollar bills.

It's because of the OP! :p

(actually, I"m suprised also).
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
2,450
126
83% Occupation (Systems Admin - The person who said that this was a "high prestige" job obviously has never worked it :) )
91% Education (Bachelors Degree - I thought that was a standard issue requirement nowadays)
84% Income (Up to $70,000 a year - Again, that's a medium income where I live. I'm so overdue for a big raise, it's not even funny anymore! )
55% Wealth (Up to $100,000 - I wasn't sure if I should include my 401k or not, so I did. I figured that my big mortgage basically cancels out the value of my condo, though)
78% Overall (Seems high, especially for a New York Times article! They should base this rating off of geography, instead of overall)

 

Caesar

Golden Member
Nov 5, 1999
1,686
178
106
Occupation: 78th
Education: 97th
Income: 88th
Wealth: 34th
Average: 74th
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
39,230
701
126
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Stunt
Just goes to show there's an assload of poor people out there...and what you see as average is actually much better than the true average.

Pretty sad...

Although was nice to see Canada has a higher class mobility than US, UK and France :)
The ranks of the lower income are growing, the middle class is shrinking and the upper class is going status quo. The average MAN in his 30's now makes 12% less than his father did when in his 30's (after inflation)....like the ole saying...the rich get...
That study you reference is very difficult to read into...there's so many variables.


The numbers I gave above were from a multi group study over the last several decades. It was on Yahoo finance yesterday. Males in their 30's make less (after inflation) than their fathers did. However, household income is up somewhat overall because of the two earner family.
 

imported_Lothar

Diamond Member
Aug 10, 2006
4,559
1
0
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Lothar
A "Computer Systems Administrator" contains more prestige than a Judge, Dentist and Pharmacist?
I'm calling a big SHENS on this chart.

In that case I should drop out of Pharmacy school now and keep doing what I'm doing now(working $14/hr as a "Computer Systems Administrator" for my college dormitory) since it's more prestigious.

It sounds like you're too caught up in the prestige aspect of jobs. And your post is very self-serving since you're going to school to be a pharmacist. Of course you want everyone to believe that your current career path is very prestigious.

Nope. Has nothing to do with prestige.
The last paragraph was of course a joke...Why would I drop out when I just have 1 year left? That's like tossing all the $25,000/year educational expenses I've spent the past 5 years in the garbage bin.
That would be a stupid thing to do...I have no degree to fall back on because I'm doing the 6 yr accelerated Pharmacy program(which gives you no "intermediate" degree like a Bachelors or anything. If I dropped out I would be back to high school diploma level.

I would have done medicine if it's prestige I wanted.
I went against both my mother and grandmother, both who wanted to do medicine.

I decided I wanted to be a Pharmacist since 11th grade, and I thank my high school librarian for it.
 

Stunt

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2002
9,717
2
0
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Stunt
Just goes to show there's an assload of poor people out there...and what you see as average is actually much better than the true average.

Pretty sad...

Although was nice to see Canada has a higher class mobility than US, UK and France :)
The ranks of the lower income are growing, the middle class is shrinking and the upper class is going status quo. The average MAN in his 30's now makes 12% less than his father did when in his 30's (after inflation)....like the ole saying...the rich get...
That study you reference is very difficult to read into...there's so many variables.
The numbers I gave above were from a multi group study over the last several decades. It was on Yahoo finance yesterday. Males in their 30's make less (after inflation) than their fathers did. However, household income is up somewhat overall because of the two earner family.
My comment still stands...I know exactly what study you are referring to...hence my comment "That study you reference is very difficult to read into...there's so many variables."

This is not the venue to discuss what the study really means.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
39,230
701
126
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Stunt
Just goes to show there's an assload of poor people out there...and what you see as average is actually much better than the true average.

Pretty sad...

Although was nice to see Canada has a higher class mobility than US, UK and France :)
The ranks of the lower income are growing, the middle class is shrinking and the upper class is going status quo. The average MAN in his 30's now makes 12% less than his father did when in his 30's (after inflation)....like the ole saying...the rich get...
That study you reference is very difficult to read into...there's so many variables.
The numbers I gave above were from a multi group study over the last several decades. It was on Yahoo finance yesterday. Males in their 30's make less (after inflation) than their fathers did. However, household income is up somewhat overall because of the two earner family.
My comment still stands...I know exactly what study you are referring to...hence my comment "That study you reference is very difficult to read into...there's so many variables."

This is not the venue to discuss what the study really means.

I can agree on that. I'll leave it do Dave in P&N! :D

 

slpaulson

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2000
4,414
14
81
Occupation: 73rd, Computer Hardware Engineer
Education: 91st, BS degree
Income: 69th, <50,000, but I live in central Wisconsin so...
Wealth: 29th, I just graduated and started working about two weeks ago...

Edit: Not to be an asshole, but a computer support specialist is more prestigious than a computer hardware or software engineer?
 

Argo

Lifer
Apr 8, 2000
10,045
0
0
Weird, my income is 97th percentile, yet I'm not making that much money. I'm pretty sure there's more than 3% of the population making more money that me. Does this not include people who own/run businesses?
 

RKS

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
6,824
3
81
Occupation: 84th percentile (Attorney)
Education: 99th percentile
Income: 93th percentile
Wealth: 85th percentile
Average: 90th percentile

Truthfully with 2 young kids I feel like I need another job just to make ends meet.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
61,504
12
56
this is quite telling...

Occupation: 53rd percentile
Education: 75th percentile
Income: 78th percentile
Wealth: 85th percentile
Average: 73rd percentile

 

Dubb

Platinum Member
Mar 25, 2003
2,495
0
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70% according to that....

but I'd guess that I'm actually lower...they only have the option for "architect" which could be a firm principle making $200K a year or someone entry level making 30K (that's me)
 

miri

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2003
3,679
0
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Originally posted by: Argo
Weird, my income is 97th percentile, yet I'm not making that much money. I'm pretty sure there's more than 3% of the population making more money that me. Does this not include people who own/run businesses?

These numbers include people of all ages.

The people under 18 are what is skewing this so much.

Remove those under 25 and the entire chart will drastically change.
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
12,379
96
86
Got you all beat

Occupation 99
Education 99
Income 99
Wealth 98
AVERAGE 99

The benefits of being a doctor :)