What Atheists and Agnostics Know About Religion

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magomago

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I don't see any similarity to what I presented.
Lol.

I took the basic logic of what you pushed, showed you a much more complicated and elaborate version, and you laugh back at it.

Here is my point since I have to be explicit because you continuously show yourself to be dense:
Your little 'code' is entirely coincidental and has no real basis is truth like you think it does. The proof that it can be totally coincidental is that we can take other texts and make MUCH more complicated word codes - so complex that you really need a computer to pull them off in order to process things in a timely manner - and reveal these "magical" messages.
This was done to Moby Dick (which was a response to a challenge to the person who first applied computer technology to the Jewish Bible); if you read the link you can find a huge variety of messages 'hidden' within this specific book; However, no one is going to come forth and pretend like Moby Dick is a blessed book worthy of our religious praise, and that it is a text either written by or inspired by God.
If we can apply the same method to other texts to tease out these 'messages', then this method, which is claimed to reveal the uniquess of a religious text through an example you provide, is not very convincing. Ultimately that is not to say that the text is not true, it simply says the method that you use provides no proof that the text is true.
So when you parade such weak logic around and ask the rhetorical question: "Is it a coincidence?", you appear as a fool because it indeed is a coincidence since these messages can easily be shown to occur through chance.

Fucking shit man, you make all religious people look bad and devoid of any logic...
 
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magomago

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No you didn't. You connected letters from basically a word puzzle. There's no similarity at all.

ZOMG, now I remember why I quit last time with you. There was a point when you very first materialized that I thought you were a thinking man - one that tried to employ logic and apply knowledge the way I believe God intended for us to do as a species....yet I was utterly, and devastatingly wrong.

Good luck to you, I'm out of this thread!
 

ScipioAfricanus

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No doubt my own beliefs came about after bible school.. and summer church camps when i was a kid...

And no.. I dont piss my pants when i go by a catholic church...

Religion to me is a form of authority that i do not like...Get into a discussion about anything in the bible.. and some religion zealot will tell you NO.. THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS!... and god forbid you try talking to a devout Muslim about their religion or the assassinations/murders committed or ordered by Muhammed during his Insurgency... they deny he even fought...

But hey.. thats your right... believe whatever you want.. if the KKK and the NAACP are both protected under free speech... i guess your religious speech is too...
 

IronWing

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Here's the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis!
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IronWing

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How so? What's your explanation?
Look, see right here...

There are sixty six books in the Bible.
Thirteen of these books are the letters of Paul. We can chuck those out because we know Paul was a psychopath and his letters are at odds with the rest of revelation and therefore clearly not canonical.
This leaves us fifty three books.
We put Ruth back in because it includes lesbians. Lesbians aren't mentioned anywhere else in the bible yet clearly exist and are pleasing.
This brings us to fifty four books.
Fifty four is really the significant number here.
If you count the disciples you find they numbered twelve.
Now add Jesus to the twelve and you have thirteen.
Divide fifty four by thirteen and you get four plus two left over.
Four and two => forty two.
This clearly and logically demonstrates that The Hitchhiker's Guide was anticipated as a scripture.
Now, look at who wrote THG. What was Douglas' last name? That's right. The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Just as the Bible begins with Adam, so has it has ended. THG is the final chapter of revelation.
 
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OCNewbie

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The Christian gospel message is spelled out by combining the Hebrew meanings of ten name in genealogical order from Adam to Noah.

Random chance?

You can't wrap your mind around "that" being random chance, but you accept wholeheartedly the words in an ancient book written by men?
 
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OCNewbie

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I was going to address a question to any of the Christian members visiting this thread, but then I came to the realization below:

Athiests and Agnostics are always trying to ask the "right" question(s) that will ultimately and thoroughly stump a Theist, regardless of their religion. The problem with that approach, is that Theists refuse to embrace the ONE appropriate answer to these questions that are supposed to be unanswerable: "I don't know". It's not in their vernacular. Without fail, if you ask such a question, there WILL be an answer, because that's one of, if not the, driving force behind Theism: avoiding the unknown.
 

DrPizza

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There are plenty of things that are "gods"; money, fame, power, greed, sex, etc. You defining "gods" way too narrowly.

You and I know fully well what they were talking about back then by the word "Gods." Polytheistic religions were very common in many societies at the time the Old Testament appeared.
 

Blackjack200

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You and I know fully well what they were talking about back then by the word "Gods." Polytheistic religions were very common in many societies at the time the Old Testament appeared.

PJW is a troll, but this is a favorite tactic of religious people: torture the words to the mean what you want, not what they say.

If you want a real lesson in cognative dissonance, google Jesus's quote about it being easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than enter the kingdom of heaven. There are some hilarious rationalizations out there trying to argue that the statement was not acually condemning wealth.
 

ShawnD1

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Athiests and Agnostics are always trying to ask the "right" question(s) that will ultimately and thoroughly stump a Theist, regardless of their religion. The problem with that approach, is that Theists refuse to embrace the ONE appropriate answer to these questions that are supposed to be unanswerable: "I don't know". It's not in their vernacular. Without fail, if you ask such a question, there WILL be an answer, because that's one of, if not the, driving force behind Theism: avoiding the unknown.

People with PhDs are horrible for this. What they never say is "I don't know" or "I was wrong"
 

zerocool84

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Look, see right here...

There are sixty six books in the Bible.
Twelve of these books are the letters of Paul. We can chuck those out because we know Paul was a psychopath and his letters are at odds with the rest of revelation and therefore clearly not canonical.
This leaves us fifty three books.
We put Ruth back in because it includes lesbians. Lesbians aren't mentioned anywhere else in the bible yet clearly exist and are pleasing.
This brings us to fifty four books.
Fifty four is really the significant number here.
If you count the disciples you find they numbered twelve.
Now add Jesus to the twelve and you have thirteen.
Divide fifty four by thirteen and you get four plus two left over.
Four and two => forty two.
This clearly and logically demonstrates that The Hitchhiker's Guide was anticipated as a scripture.
Now, look at who wrote THG. What was Douglas' last name? That's right. The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Just as the Bible begins with Adam, so has it has ended. THG is the final chapter of revelation.

but remember, it has nothing to do with what he did cus his is correct and yours isn't
 

GagHalfrunt

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ZOMG, now I remember why I quit last time with you. There was a point when you very first materialized that I thought you were a thinking man - one that tried to employ logic and apply knowledge the way I believe God intended for us to do as a species....yet I was utterly, and devastatingly wrong.

BWAHAHA!!!! The irony of that statement is hilarious.
 
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PJW is a troll, but this is a favorite tactic of religious people: torture the words to the mean what you want, not what they say.

If you want a real lesson in cognative dissonance, google Jesus's quote about it being easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than enter the kingdom of heaven. There are some hilarious rationalizations out there trying to argue that the statement was not acually condemning wealth.

There's nothing inherently wrong with money, the problem is when you make it your god.