What about the new Ipod Nano?

[akugami]

Gotta love the anti-fanboys. They always come out in droves any time anything Apple is mentioned. It's like somehow Apple is an afront to their existence. Maybe Steve Jobs slept with their mothers and their sisters, then slept with their girlfrie...scratch that these guys are too busy ranting to get gf's.

Apple doesn't need the most feature rich product, they (and other companies) only need to include enough to keep and expand their market share. Judging by a lot of reactions from non fanboys and the general public, the new Nano is going to be a hit. Most new music suck monkey scrotums. The only FM station I even listen to anymore is sports radio. Radio stations and thus FM support are vastly overrated nowadays.

If Sony has proven anything, it's that marketing is what sells products (PS2, ok product, way overhyped, selling like hotcakes). Apple is doing very good marketing with it's iPod line and needless to say, they're selling like hotcakes.

Lot's of people in geekland don't seem to understand that sometimes form and appearance are just as important as technical features. For the most part, Apple's MP3 players provide a nice balance between price, form, performance and features. It may not be the most feature rich player and Apple detracters will always cry about lack of things like video support and fm radio support but the general public apparently doesn't share this outlook as Apple has like 80% of the MP3 market. So yes, continue to cry about how Apple sucks while Apple rakes in the money hand over fist.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Do you see how fvcking small the Nano is? Alright, now imagine how small the battery is.

No need to imagine...

iPod nano guts

I find it VERY intresting to the fact that the memory chip is on another module. So it would be conceivable to perhaps upgrade your Nano (probbably aftermarket upgrade) to a higher capacity as technology progresses and flash gets cheaper for higher capcities.

I noticed that too. Pretty damn cool!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
lol @ SickBeast.

And what have you contributed to this thread?

I may have been proven wrong on a few points, but I actually appreciate an intelligent debate now and then.

You on the other hand have just stood on the wayside and made snide remarks...

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: KDOG
No FM tuner? What were they thinking?

Don't get me wrong, it looks hot, especially in black and 1,000 songs rocks bawls, but I can't believe they left out an FM tuner...

Name any Ipod that has an FM tuner (past or present). You can't! Apple just has it in for FM apparently but I agree I would love to have an FM tuner.

Yeah, almost all of the MP3 player manufacturers have models that include an AM/FM tuner and a voice recorder... except for Apple. I swear, it's like the two button mouse all over again. Apple is being stubborn, and will probably be the last manufacturer on Earth to offer this feature.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Excelsior
lol @ SickBeast.

And what have you contributed to this thread?

I may have been proven wrong on a few points, but I actually appreciate an intelligent debate now and then.

You on the other hand have just stood on the wayside and made snide remarks...

I haven't had to say much when other posters say what I want to say. I just quote them, it is far easier.

 

[hans030390]

I wasn't comparing the Zen Sleek to the nano, but the ipod 20gb. Just saying why i think ipods aren't worth the money and that there are better mp3 players out.

It's not my fault that my opinion is anti-ipod.

At least its not anywhere near as bad as my Sm3 fanboyism

 

[Inspector Jihad]

its cool to hate on ipods

 

[Hacp]

I wish they made a 2 Meg Nano for 150 bucks . I have a mini and I listen to the same song 24 /7 .

 

[HGC]

I agree with KDOG. As it happened, my RIO 600 died the day the iPod nano came out. After much research I decided on the Creative MuVo Sport. $73 from NewEgg ( after mail-in rebate). Only 256 MB, BUT, it can add a 1 GB memory card, and it uses a AAA batteries, not a built in one that will die one day. Also very decent headphones, and it supports WMA. It's also compatible with MusicMatch.

Once again, Apple charges a big premium for cool factor, imo.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: ai42

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Do you see how fvcking small the Nano is? Alright, now imagine how small the battery is.

No need to imagine...

iPod nano guts

I find it VERY intresting to the fact that the memory chip is on another module. So it would be conceivable to perhaps upgrade your Nano (probbably aftermarket upgrade) to a higher capacity as technology progresses and flash gets cheaper for higher capcities.

I noticed that too. Pretty damn cool!

nice pics

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: HGC
I agree with KDOG. As it happened, my RIO 600 died the day the iPod nano came out. After much research I decided on the Creative MuVo Sport. $73 from NewEgg ( after mail-in rebate). Only 256 MB, BUT, it can add a 1 GB memory card, and it uses a AAA batteries, not a built in one that will die one day. Also very decent headphones, and it supports WMA. It's also compatible with MusicMatch.

Once again, Apple charges a big premium for cool factor, imo.

So how much will 4 1GB flash cards cost you? I'll bet by the time you buy them, you will spend more than you would have on a 4GB Nano. Apple has an exclusive deal w/ Samsung; the player is actually a very good deal, and people are speculating that Apple isn't making much profit on each unit.

There is no way in the world that the Creative player you mentionned is cheaper per megabyte; it's not possible.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: HGC
I agree with KDOG. As it happened, my RIO 600 died the day the iPod nano came out. After much research I decided on the Creative MuVo Sport. $73 from NewEgg ( after mail-in rebate). Only 256 MB, BUT, it can add a 1 GB memory card, and it uses a AAA batteries, not a built in one that will die one day. Also very decent headphones, and it supports WMA. It's also compatible with MusicMatch.

Once again, Apple charges a big premium for cool factor, imo.

So how much will 4 1GB flash cards cost you? I'll bet by the time you buy them, you will spend more than you would have on a 4GB Nano. Apple has an exclusive deal w/ Samsung; the player is actually a very good deal, and people are speculating that Apple isn't making much profit on each unit.

There is no way in the world that the Creative player you mentionned is cheaper per megabyte; it's not possible.

QFT. So much anti-apple fanboys. How much does a U2 2GB cost? Answer that please!


Wait! I found 2GB player here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603819

No color screen though.

 

[HGC]

I think the SanDisk 1 GB card goes for about $70, so my total cost will be about $140 for a 1.25 GB player, with no built in battery to go bad, compatible with wma (I have lots of them) and MusicMatch ( I prefer it to iTunes), somewhat waterproof ( I bike in the rain), and a radio thrown in.

Is it cheaper per megabyte? No way. Is it a better value overall? I think so, unless the extra 750 MB is worth the $60 to you, or the extra 2.75 GB is worth $110, and you don't care about the other issues.

The Nano is pretty damn cool, and I almost bought one, but I think Apple puts too much weight on the image factor. Who needs to see the album art in color?

BTW I'm happy to accept the anti-Apple fanboy moniker. I think a lot of what that company sells is just an elitest attitude.

 

[Excelsior]

Oh come the fvck on, the damn battery will last you long enough. Jesus, by the time it dies, you will want to get a better player anyway.

 

[HGC]

I kept my last (non-Apple) player for several years. After a while, the battery started holding less and less charge. The last few years I had to recharge it after every use. I'd much rather use AAAs.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: HGC
I kept my last (non-Apple) player for several years. After a while, the battery started holding less and less charge. The last few years I had to recharge it after every use. I'd much rather use AAAs.

What player was it? And, I think with the advances made in technology, the battery in the nano should last quite a while (reliability wise).

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: HGC
I agree with KDOG. As it happened, my RIO 600 died the day the iPod nano came out. After much research I decided on the Creative MuVo Sport. $73 from NewEgg ( after mail-in rebate). Only 256 MB, BUT, it can add a 1 GB memory card, and it uses a AAA batteries, not a built in one that will die one day. Also very decent headphones, and it supports WMA. It's also compatible with MusicMatch.

Once again, Apple charges a big premium for cool factor, imo.

So how much will 4 1GB flash cards cost you? I'll bet by the time you buy them, you will spend more than you would have on a 4GB Nano. Apple has an exclusive deal w/ Samsung; the player is actually a very good deal, and people are speculating that Apple isn't making much profit on each unit.

There is no way in the world that the Creative player you mentionned is cheaper per megabyte; it's not possible.

QFT. So much anti-apple fanboys. How much does a U2 2GB cost? Answer that please!


Wait! I found 2GB player here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603819

No color screen though.

Who was the QFT directed towards? Why would you quote me if it's not directed at me? :Q

 

[naruto1988]

i was planning on getting an iaudio 5, very nice features and good design. the nano came out and i decided to get it. after reading about the value of the 4 gig flash itself, i was shocked. if ipods have FM tuners, apple would be selling so many more units. as for the battery life, i cut it in half. so advertised 14, real life use of 7. i'll listen to it 2 hours a day at the most. i recharge every other day anyways. so what is there to lose?

and i'm persuaded by simple things like its mere size. and the free laser engraving. /flamesuit on

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: naruto1988
i was planning on getting an iaudio 5, very nice features and good design. the nano came out and i decided to get it. after reading about the value of the 4 gig flash itself, i was shocked. if ipods have FM tuners, apple would be selling so many more units. as for the battery life, i cut it in half. so advertised 14, real life use of 7. i'll listen to it 2 hours a day at the most. i recharge every other day anyways. so what is there to lose?

and i'm persuaded by simple things like its mere size. and the free laser engraving. /flamesuit on

Wtf...it wouldn't get half dude..maybe 2/3rds, but just half? no.

 

[ai42]

Originally posted by: naruto1988
i was planning on getting an iaudio 5, very nice features and good design. the nano came out and i decided to get it. after reading about the value of the 4 gig flash itself, i was shocked. if ipods have FM tuners, apple would be selling so many more units. as for the battery life, i cut it in half. so advertised 14, real life use of 7. i'll listen to it 2 hours a day at the most. i recharge every other day anyways. so what is there to lose?

and i'm persuaded by simple things like its mere size. and the free laser engraving. /flamesuit on

There are a couple reviews out already that say the nano runs within 30 mins +/- of 14 hours. Also the nano has a LiIon Polymer battery and that kind of technology is the best at resisting memory effect (given it can still happen but there isn't any rechargable battery technology that resists it bettter)

Apparently Apple doesn't need FM tuners. They have podcasts which is just sucessful on an almost unbeleivable level. As well as the fact that in 2004 3 out of 4 mp3 players sold in the US was some form of iPod. It's hard to deny that the iPod is just insanely sucessful.

 

[ai42]

So... I just got my coveted 4GB Black nano yesterday and I'm just insanely pleased.

First Impressions:
Well Apple of course is the king of presentation. The iPod comes in a beautiful bag specifically for the nano. When the guy at the store whipped out the bag I was impressed. If it were any other manufactuer they would stop at the bag. The beautiful box of course continues to impress me. Openning the box is like walking into a new house in that you don't really know what to expect but it just looks beautiful. Of course the infamous "Please do not steal music" is on the candy like wrapper around the iPod.

The touchpad is perfect. You would think it is too small to do any good but it feels very intuitive just like an iPod should. The buttons and controls take all of 2 mintues to get used to and just feels as natural as a keyboard. The user interfact is just simply perfect. You can't really think of any way to improve it without implanting a iPod chip in your brain to control your iPod with your thoughts.

The color screen is beautiful. The colors are crisp and quite bright. I haven't tried it in sunlight yet but I suspect it will look fine. The LEDs are somewhat bright in dark condtions and I haven't found a setting to set that.

The sound quality is very impressive and I can tell a noticable differance between my old mp3 Player (Dell DJ 15GB). I'm not really a music buff but the sound is just very crisp. My roommate has some $2000 home stero THX, dolby digital speaker setup and this mp3 player is the closest thing that sounds like that.

The case. I have to admit I'm somewhat anoyed with the fact that the caseing seams to take up oils from your hands and fingerprints so readily. I've had this a day and while I keep trying to clean it down it constantly has fingerprints on the mirror like finish on the back or on the smooth front face. However, given Apple's simplicity design I can't really think of anything else that would look so cool.

I've never owned an iPod of any kind before but I've always gawked at the iPod store displays and told myself someday... However, now I can say I was just crazy to own any other mp3 player. The Dell DJ (1st Gen) doesn't hold a candle to this the user interface and controls were always so clunky and the scroll wheel is just nasty (perhaps if the scroll wheel were more like a mouse scrool wheel with rubber and nice and smooth to scroll it would be better). I've more recently owned a Creative Zen Micro and again I can tell you even while it has a somewhat cool touchpad the buttons are just simply not intuitive like the iPod. As well as the Creative died on me after a 2 foot drop (hard drive head crash). I've played around with Creative flash mp3 players including the Muvo (1st Gen), Muvo TX, and the Muvo sport because my dad keeps going through these things every 6 months and breaks them. I just never really liked the Muvos really but I really don't like them now that I've been shown the light of the iPod.

In conclusion I am just overjoyed with this purchase. With the Dell DJ I got it like dirt cheap (less than $100) and at the time I didn't much like it but for the money it was cool. Now this while I spent quite a bit more I cannot see spending a single dollar into any other mp3 player now. I see this iPod to be quite simply perfect in every way. Apple has done it again and this is quite simply amazing on all fronts.

The only real gripe I have against Apple is that the accessories are not available from day 1. I love that lanyard headphone thing and I want to get a case for this.

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[Pabster]

Originally posted by: HGC
I agree with KDOG. As it happened, my RIO 600 died the day the iPod nano came out. After much research I decided on the Creative MuVo Sport. $73 from NewEgg ( after mail-in rebate). Only 256 MB, BUT, it can add a 1 GB memory card, and it uses a AAA batteries, not a built in one that will die one day. Also very decent headphones, and it supports WMA. It's also compatible with MusicMatch.

Once again, Apple charges a big premium for cool factor, imo.

Suit yourself. AAA batteries have to be replaced and recharged as well. I'd rather plop it on the dock and let it charge than have to fumble batteries between my charger and the unit.

Ok so you can add a 1GB card. You'll need 4 of them to match the top Nano's capacity. Have fun fumbling through SD cards trying to remember which one has that album or song on it.

And MusicMatch? No offense, but MM really sucks the big one. iTunes is the best music manager out there.

 

[coomar]

can't you just use the student discount on apples website, i know its 270 canadian, you get it within a week

 

[svi]

BTW I'm happy to accept the anti-Apple fanboy moniker. I think a lot of what that company sells is just an elitest attitude.

So, because you don't like a company, you refuse to accept that it could make superior products? Just trying to understand the fanboy mindset, here.

Also the nano has a LiIon Polymer battery and that kind of technology is the best at resisting memory effect (given it can still happen but there isn't any rechargable battery technology that resists it bettter)

Ack! No consumer batteries have the "memory effect." The only batteries that show this effect are sintered-plate NiCd cells, and only then in laboratory conditions or satellites.

If you are referring to voltage depression, which is commonly confused with the memory effect but quite different, that only happens in nickel-based cells (NiCd, NiMH), and it is easily avoidable and goes unnoticed by most people (all you have to do is fully discharge the cell occasionally).

Suit yourself. AAA batteries have to be replaced and recharged as well. I'd rather plop it on the dock and let it charge than have to fumble batteries between my charger and the unit.

Exactly: "suit yourself." Some people, like you, don't actually like using AAs and AAAs instead of internal rechargeables. It's hard to argue that one approach is objectively superior if some people don't like it.

I get the feeling some people just want to insult Apple's products no matter what, even if their product is the best at what it does at the moment. Remember when the iPod had no real competition and people were saying they didn't want to spend that much to carry music around with them anyway?

 

[HGC]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: HGC
I kept my last (non-Apple) player for several years. After a while, the battery started holding less and less charge. The last few years I had to recharge it after every use. I'd much rather use AAAs.

What player was it? And, I think with the advances made in technology, the battery in the nano should last quite a while (reliability wise).

It ws a RIO 600. Only $185 for 32 MB! It was a great little player, except for that battery issue. I hope they do make them better now, but I'm skeptical. Of course the only way to make a player really slim is with a built in battery.