What about the new Ipod Nano?

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hurtstotalktoyou

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Originally posted by: ai42
Your school apparently doesn't have such a good educational discount (it will vary by school/university). University of Texas at Dallas is $179/$229

I've never heard of it varying. The education discount, as far as I can tell, seems to be the same across the nation.

As for those prices, you're forgetting tax.
 

KDOG

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No FM tuner? What were they thinking?

Don't get me wrong, it looks hot, especially in black and 1,000 songs rocks bawls, but I can't believe they left out an FM tuner...
 

robisc

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gosh Apple can be addictive, now I have a Shuffle, a Mini, A Gateway Photo, a Mobiblu cube and like I need another MP3 player I just ordered the Black 2GB, also looking forward to the Mobiblu DAH-1800
 

KDOG

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I think I'd rather have this...

Gets good reviews, an FM tuner, has plenty of capacity (I think they do have a 1Gig version as well) and its insanely cheaper than the Nano Ipod.
 

CheerUpEmoKid

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Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy
Originally posted by: Crescent13
Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer
In case anyone is wondering.. it figures, I just bought a Mini 2 weeks ago. :disgust:


NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I JUST GOT MY BRAND NEW IPOD MINI!!!!!! NOW THERE IS A NEW ONE!?!?!?!?!

EDIT: that thing does look good in black though :)

Welcome to the wonderful world of technology...

I'm glad that I am so poor I'm still using a 32MB RCA Kazoo. (Haven't bothered getting a MMC card for it) :p

haha me too ! but mine is a 64MB :p too bad my parrot chewed my usb for it so i cant change any of the songs :(
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: KDOG
I think I'd rather have this...

Gets good reviews, an FM tuner, has plenty of capacity (I think they do have a 1Gig version as well) and its insanely cheaper than the Nano Ipod.


How you get cheaper? You realize Nano is 2 or 4gig compared to 512meg or 1gig for that Creative. Have you priced 2 or 4 gig flash memory?
 

ai42

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Originally posted by: KDOG
No FM tuner? What were they thinking?

Don't get me wrong, it looks hot, especially in black and 1,000 songs rocks bawls, but I can't believe they left out an FM tuner...

Name any Ipod that has an FM tuner (past or present). You can't! Apple just has it in for FM apparently but I agree I would love to have an FM tuner.
 

SickBeast

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My two beefs with the Nano are the placement of the headphone jack, and the length of the unit. They should be able to shave an inch off the length easily. It just looks disproportionally long from a strictly aesthetic point of view, and it's not like the additional length is needed from a funcitonal point of view (the excess I'm talking about is above and below the click wheel).

The battery life is also a bit of an issue. If a minidisc player can get 52 hours of playback from a single "AA" battery, there is absolutely no excuse for a paltry 14 hours from a lithium ion cell.

I also agree with the calls for an FM tuner. I'm not quite sure why Apple refuses to include one. :Q
 

Kaifu

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Originally posted by: Bona Fide
Just like cell phones...they keep making em smaller so they're easier to lose. Then you gotta go buy a new one.:p
Actually, I think it has more to do with the fact that Apple has an increasingly large market share of the portable digital media player market. They're so saturated in that market that they have to come out with bigger and better (or in this case, at least, smaller) products to encourage their users to buy their new stuff.

In other words: the fact that you see so many white earbuds around is only good for apple for so long. If they don't convince you to keep buying new hardware, they'll take a serious dive in sales revenue.

 
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i called my local apple store (downtown san fran), the lady said be here in the mornign if u want one cuz there is gonna be a nice line and they expect to sell out in a few hours
 

BillyBatson

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i am glad the mini has been replaced with this. I went to the apple store today and they had none in stock but i just wanted to see a floor model. I am so happy it comes in all black! and no red like the lame U2 ipod. So now all of Apples mp3 players have color screens less the shuffle. We still sell the 6gb mini at costco for $10 less than the 4gb nano i do believe but i would sitll rather have the nano
 

svi

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If a minidisc player can get 52 hours of playback from a single "AA" battery, there is absolutely no excuse for a paltry 14 hours from a lithium ion cell.
Sure there is. First off, change "minidisc player" to "flash player", and change 52 to 35. Those neato ultra-low-power minidisc players and CD players have weak-ass headphone outs, let's compare apples to apples here, at least sort of.

Look at the battery lives of other flash players that use internal li-ion cells. Notice anything funny? Almost all of them offer a lot less battery life than AA-based comparable players. Why is that? It's simple: the only reason manufacturers go li-ion in the first place instead of AA/AAA is to save space. It's cheaper to have users put in their own batteries, and it's better in the long-term, but AAs are almost as big as some flash players by themselves.

All this is obvious, I know, but it raises a point: there is a perfectly good excuse for this low battery life. Look at the form factor of the iPod nano and try to visualize how much internal volume there is (remember, the casing isn't paper-thin). Think about how deep the click wheel and screen probably are. Consider how much flash memory is crammed into the things. How much space do you think they had in there for the battery? And that's not even going accounting for that that screen probably eats more power than the teensy ones on the flash players I was referring to.

I agree, of course, that 14h is pretty low (I do manage with that with my X5, though). I just don't think it's fair to say there's no excuse for this. The engineers behind this device are probably more than competent, and would likely not appreciate being told that it's shameful how low the battery life for that particular device is.
 

MrMiyagi

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LOL...was just thinking about buying a player soon. Ordered a black 4 and a white 2 today.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: KDOG
I think I'd rather have this...

Gets good reviews, an FM tuner, has plenty of capacity (I think they do have a 1Gig version as well) and its insanely cheaper than the Nano Ipod.


How you get cheaper? You realize Nano is 2 or 4gig compared to 512meg or 1gig for that Creative. Have you priced 2 or 4 gig flash memory?

yup, insanely cheaper for good reason. just look at it:p
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: svi
If a minidisc player can get 52 hours of playback from a single "AA" battery, there is absolutely no excuse for a paltry 14 hours from a lithium ion cell.
Sure there is. First off, change "minidisc player" to "flash player", and change 52 to 35. Those neato ultra-low-power minidisc players and CD players have weak-ass headphone outs, let's compare apples to apples here, at least sort of.

Look at the battery lives of other flash players that use internal li-ion cells. Notice anything funny? Almost all of them offer a lot less battery life than AA-based comparable players. Why is that? It's simple: the only reason manufacturers go li-ion in the first place instead of AA/AAA is to save space. It's cheaper to have users put in their own batteries, and it's better in the long-term, but AAs are almost as big as some flash players by themselves.

All this is obvious, I know, but it raises a point: there is a perfectly good excuse for this low battery life. Look at the form factor of the iPod nano and try to visualize how much internal volume there is (remember, the casing isn't paper-thin). Think about how deep the click wheel and screen probably are. Consider how much flash memory is crammed into the things. How much space do you think they had in there for the battery? And that's not even going accounting for that that screen probably eats more power than the teensy ones on the flash players I was referring to.

I agree, of course, that 14h is pretty low (I do manage with that with my X5, though). I just don't think it's fair to say there's no excuse for this. The engineers behind this device are probably more than competent, and would likely not appreciate being told that it's shameful how low the battery life for that particular device is.

I agree completely.
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
^^^yeah i dont really care about ablility to play music either...i just walk around with a brick. it was really cheap

It weighs like a pound (feels like it)... Are you really that weak? Just stick it in your pocket or something.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: svi
If a minidisc player can get 52 hours of playback from a single "AA" battery, there is absolutely no excuse for a paltry 14 hours from a lithium ion cell.
Sure there is. First off, change "minidisc player" to "flash player", and change 52 to 35. Those neato ultra-low-power minidisc players and CD players have weak-ass headphone outs, let's compare apples to apples here, at least sort of.

Look at the battery lives of other flash players that use internal li-ion cells. Notice anything funny? Almost all of them offer a lot less battery life than AA-based comparable players. Why is that? It's simple: the only reason manufacturers go li-ion in the first place instead of AA/AAA is to save space. It's cheaper to have users put in their own batteries, and it's better in the long-term, but AAs are almost as big as some flash players by themselves.

All this is obvious, I know, but it raises a point: there is a perfectly good excuse for this low battery life. Look at the form factor of the iPod nano and try to visualize how much internal volume there is (remember, the casing isn't paper-thin). Think about how deep the click wheel and screen probably are. Consider how much flash memory is crammed into the things. How much space do you think they had in there for the battery? And that's not even going accounting for that that screen probably eats more power than the teensy ones on the flash players I was referring to.

I agree, of course, that 14h is pretty low (I do manage with that with my X5, though). I just don't think it's fair to say there's no excuse for this. The engineers behind this device are probably more than competent, and would likely not appreciate being told that it's shameful how low the battery life for that particular device is.

I agree completely.

With less moving parts and no disc to spin, the iPod Nano should actually have an enormous advantage over the minidisc players. Let's face it; Apple hasn't exactly been a market leader in terms of battery life. It's really Sony's realm. If you can't accept and face this fact it points to fanboyism. I'm sure if you were to look at Sony's MP3 players of comparable size to the Nano, you would see that they get double to triple the battery life.

I have no issue offending the Apple engineers. Notice that I said nothing terrible about their industrial design; just two minor deserved criticisms, and now a third about the battery life. They're valid concerns!
 

chizzle

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Love the design, but still lacks some features I want in a MP3 player. I'll consider buying one if it's not TOO small lol. What's the life expectancy of Flash drives? I'm also suspect of the iPOD line quality. I'm on my 3rd Shuffle in less than 9 months.
 

her34

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$250 for 4gb alone is good, nevermind the mp3 playback


only thing i worry about is snapping it in half. i wonder how sturdy it is
 

Overkiller

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What oh what have I done??????

I can't wait to get my 4gb nano in black.

The 60GB in the car and this on the go. Brilliant.

God I hate my recent fan-boyism.

Sigh.


They aren't coming with protective cases for them however. Any ideas where I could get one? I am getting the armbad but for when I just want to toss it in my pocket I'd like something to prevent it from getting all scratched up...ideas?
 

Mayfriday0529

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
This is the first iPod I've _really_ considered getting


I agree. I still have a 64mb with 256 extra memory player and I have though of getting an Ipod, but with all the Ipod hatred on the forums i said i wait for something else.

When i saw the Ipod Nano i was like wow!!
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: svi
If a minidisc player can get 52 hours of playback from a single "AA" battery, there is absolutely no excuse for a paltry 14 hours from a lithium ion cell.
Sure there is. First off, change "minidisc player" to "flash player", and change 52 to 35. Those neato ultra-low-power minidisc players and CD players have weak-ass headphone outs, let's compare apples to apples here, at least sort of.

Look at the battery lives of other flash players that use internal li-ion cells. Notice anything funny? Almost all of them offer a lot less battery life than AA-based comparable players. Why is that? It's simple: the only reason manufacturers go li-ion in the first place instead of AA/AAA is to save space. It's cheaper to have users put in their own batteries, and it's better in the long-term, but AAs are almost as big as some flash players by themselves.

All this is obvious, I know, but it raises a point: there is a perfectly good excuse for this low battery life. Look at the form factor of the iPod nano and try to visualize how much internal volume there is (remember, the casing isn't paper-thin). Think about how deep the click wheel and screen probably are. Consider how much flash memory is crammed into the things. How much space do you think they had in there for the battery? And that's not even going accounting for that that screen probably eats more power than the teensy ones on the flash players I was referring to.

I agree, of course, that 14h is pretty low (I do manage with that with my X5, though). I just don't think it's fair to say there's no excuse for this. The engineers behind this device are probably more than competent, and would likely not appreciate being told that it's shameful how low the battery life for that particular device is.

I agree completely.

With less moving parts and no disc to spin, the iPod Nano should actually have an enormous advantage over the minidisc players. Let's face it; Apple hasn't exactly been a market leader in terms of battery life. It's really Sony's realm. If you can't accept and face this fact it points to fanboyism. I'm sure if you were to look at Sony's MP3 players of comparable size to the Nano, you would see that they get double to triple the battery life.

I have no issue offending the Apple engineers. Notice that I said nothing terrible about their industrial design; just two minor deserved criticisms, and now a third about the battery life. They're valid concerns!

Do you see how fvcking small the Nano is? Alright, now imagine how small the battery is.

Good job.