What a load of crap.

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Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: Andrew1990
hmm, give me $100 and a case of beer and I'll drive down there with my chainsaw and van and haul that sucker away, lol.

posting pics in a minute :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Anubis
if its your neighbors tree make him pay for it

It became HIS tree when the act of god blew it in his yard. Rule of law.

That's what's fucked up about this.

So by the logic of the insurance or city (whoever is stating that claim), if a treasure chest full of gold pieces was sitting in his neighbor's yard and blew over to OP's yard during the storm, the treasure chest would now be his?
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
A few weeks ago here in Southern Illinois we had a pretty bad windstorm (106+ straightline winds). Neighbors 100-125y/o oak tree blown over at the roots. From their yard, across ours and into a 3rd yard as well, also out into the alley behind our house.

Since it didn't fall on any covered structure of ours, there is no insurance coverage to help remove this 25-30 ton tree (by a tree company estimate), most of which is in our yard. Cheapest estimate is 2,000 since it's going to take some delicate trimming since some branches are holding the trunk up, some are pointing straight up several are driven into the ground 4-6 feet and 10 inches across. The circumference of this tree at the biggest part is a little over 12 feet.

Neighbor's insurance says 'it's your tree now, not his, sorry about that.' My insurance says 'yup, yours but nothing damaged (house, garage, etc), we can't help'.

sunuvabitch, what a steaming hot crock of shit. Neighbor from where tree came says 'can't help you with $$, sorry'.

:|

UPDATE:

Keep in mind this goes into the neighbors yard to the left and about half the branches are out of sight into the utility easement / alley area. Wish I had an 'above' picture.

Pics:

Oh yea, this became ours too apparently.

This is a view of what it did on the *other* side.

Before any cutting on it by neighbors to help.

One view of this damned thing after 6 hrs of 4 guys working on it.

Note the normal-sized burn barrel beside it.

gasoline
match

nothing is near the tree.
whats the problem?
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
just leave it there, nature will take care of it

or rent a beaver for a few days

I know I've been on here too long as I immediately thought of something else.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Eli
Damn, that's a pretty fucked up situation.

But realize something - that wood is worth a lot of money. Don't pay someone 2,000$ to cut it up and keep it. They'd probably make another 2,000$ of selling it.

Figure out a way to cut it up and sell it yourself. After all, it's your tree now. ;)

Oak, esp green, does not go for that much. I can get green oak for .85-$1.50 a Bf pretty easy. The high end is QSWO, but he did not say what kind of oak and then QS takes more time.

That and he said someone has looked at it and thinks it has metal in it. If there is metal then no one would touch that.

I assume you mean Quarter-Sawn White Oak? What about quarter sawing it takes longer?

I think you mean kiln drying it takes some time and has a cost associated with it. Whether it's WO, RO, QSWO, QSRO, they all take the same amount of time and effort to kiln dry. White oak is somewhat more rare, thus the higher cost. Quarter sawing involves more waste, which is the reason for the cost increase.

No QuarterSawing takes more time. First there are 4 main cuts, and you have to pull off each time till you get the main 4. Then you have to cut those 4 as they were 1 tree alone. Let alone the extra waster and mess it leaves to clean up.
Flat you just cut the tree as one and pull each peice off as you go. Quick and leaves little behind. But I am not a hugh oak fan and I only like it if it is QS.

But looking at the tree it has a good size crotch. Get a metal dedector and if the crotch is clean cut off the top and bottom and someone should want it. Even if a sawmill would not want it it be good for firewood. But I hate to see good wood burn up.
 

lxskllr

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They're cute when they're little :^D

I've got a huge oak in my back yard, and it'll be a major disaster if it ever goes over. The diameter is 3-4 times bigger than that, and it'll definitely go through my living room if it comes down.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: ElFenix
harvest as much as you can for bbq

seriously

my dad had a couple of large trees fall down in his yard years ago, it was easy to find someone to haul it away for nada just because it gave them free firewood. he called a couple buddies and one knew a guy who had a big truck and some free time.

literally a couple thousand trees down in town here -- everyone has ample firewood at this point and can't even give it away.
 

Red Squirrel

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Wow that's a big tree. But yeah I'd just tackle it on my own. I've never cut a tree THAT big, but have cut fairly big ones close enough to that size. It's a bit easier when it's a controlled fall though. Basically start at the smallest end and work your way up to the big end and keep your distance whenever you do your last cut on a branch, sometimes you get some potential energy surprises.

But yeah, see if you can preserve the wood.
 

n7

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Oh snap...massive fail.

Good luck with whatever you decide on.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Wow that's a big tree. But yeah I'd just tackle it on my own. I've never cut a tree THAT big, but have cut fairly big ones close enough to that size. It's a bit easier when it's a controlled fall though. Basically start at the smallest end and work your way up to the big end and keep your distance whenever you do your last cut on a branch, sometimes you get some potential energy surprises.

But yeah, see if you can preserve the wood.

Looks like there are 4 pressure points holding it up right now, I just don't know if I have the nerve to tackle it myself, my wallet screams yes do it, but...
 

IGBT

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oak firewood goes for aprox.300.00 a cord so it might be worh your while to go into the firewood biz.for awhile.
 

BoomerD

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IF you can handle cutting it yourself, AND IF you can use/sell the firewood, then do it yourself...

Otherwise, hire a professional tree service to come deal with it and present the bill to the neighbor. If he doesn't pay, take him to small claims court.

It IS his tree after all...and he IS responsible for taking care of this problem...not you.

In spite of "It's your tree now, good luck" from his insurance company, file a claim with them. Make them formally deny the claim...then add them to the small claims court filing.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
IF you can handle cutting it yourself, AND IF you can use/sell the firewood, then do it yourself...

Otherwise, hire a professional tree service to come deal with it and present the bill to the neighbor. If he doesn't pay, take him to small claims court.

It IS his tree after all...and he IS responsible for taking care of this problem...not you.

In spite of "It's your tree now, good luck" from his insurance company, file a claim with them. Make them formally deny the claim...then add them to the small claims court filing.

Sorry, law disagrees. I also thought the same but after looking into it, the "act of god" is what the court would bring up.



OP just let the other 2 take care of there part and by then it should be on the ground for a sawmill to cut up.
 

edro

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I think the chainsaw idea is out based on the diameter of the trunk.
If you have no experience cutting trees, you will just wear yourself out and not make any progress.
You could take all the limbs off, but you would be left with a giant trunk.

What the hell would you do with all of the 4' diameter wood pucks?
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape
Update: Quote by a tree company that just came by, $600 to remove it from my property (east line, west line and south line) ONLY. Neighbor to the east and west (where it came from) and the city deal with their part themselves.

Wouldn't be bad to have a chainsaw, I do have a 10% coupon at lowes and home depot.
I'd jump on that price. I just can't imagine you finding a better price than that. The tree didn't really look that big until you pointed out the barrel. That thing is way, way too big for the average person to handle. Let the pros do the work and happily fork over the $600.

I understand your feelings, but it is what it is.
 

olds

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Around here there would be 50 guys lined up offering to cut it up for free for the wood.
 

TwiceOver

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Around here there would be 50 guys lined up offering to cut it up for free for the wood.

Same here, probably enough to heat a house for the winter.

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Around here there would be 50 guys lined up offering to cut it up for free for the wood.

Same here, probably enough to heat a house for the winter.

there is enough wood there to heat a bunch of houses for the winter.