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Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Jeeebus
I guess it was "fortunate" that this decided to fall from the neighbor's house and across here. They charged something like $5000 for removal.
This is the main reason why I think it's generally a bad idea to plant large trees within falling distance of any structure. 99.9999% all trees will fall eventually (some will be bought down by fire, insects, or else alien abduction), and there's a fairly good chance that a decent portion of the tree's choice of 360° in which to fall will happen to be on some valuable portion of your property - and hopefully not on any particularly valuable portion of your family or person.

Yes I understand that the shade and aesthetics are nice and all, but that whole tree-crushing-the-house thing just isn't especially appealing.

 

runzwithsizorz

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: JLee
Buy a chainsaw. Free firewood FTW. Oak is good stuff.

Indeed! And Bob Evans Firewood, and Mulch INC. in St. Charles, Ill. will sell ya a cord of it for only $420, taxes, delivery, and stacking is extra.

$420 a cord? That's a ripoff :^S

Actually, it ain't that bad, that price is for a FULL cord, not a face cord.
 

compman25

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Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: JLee
Buy a chainsaw. Free firewood FTW. Oak is good stuff.

Indeed! And Bob Evans Firewood, and Mulch INC. in St. Charles, Ill. will sell ya a cord of it for only $420, taxes, delivery, and stacking is extra.

$420 a cord? That's a ripoff :^S

Actually, it ain't that bad, that price is for a FULL cord, not a face cord.

It's bad if you can get a cord for $175 to $250!
 

Demon-Xanth

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Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: compman25
Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz
Originally posted by: JLee
Buy a chainsaw. Free firewood FTW. Oak is good stuff.

Indeed! And Bob Evans Firewood, and Mulch INC. in St. Charles, Ill. will sell ya a cord of it for only $420, taxes, delivery, and stacking is extra.

$420 a cord? That's a ripoff :^S

Actually, it ain't that bad, that price is for a FULL cord, not a face cord.

It's bad if you can get a cord for $175 to $250!

For for free from the OP! :)
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: JLee
Buy a chainsaw. Free firewood FTW. Oak is good stuff.

This. Not only will you save money, you'll get free firewood, you'll make yourself seem more burly, and you'll have a cool chainsaw for the impending zombie invasion. How can you lose?
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: compman25

It's bad if you can get a cord for $175 to $250!

Around here it would be about $250 per full cord of all oak. You can pay more if you look around, but those other guys are just trying to fleece yuppies :^D
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Also keep in mind that you can probably sue the neighbor in court and (eventually) recover.

No!

Act of god.

Yea that term has been mentioned by both his company and mine when they came by to look at the situation.

 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Update: Quote by a tree company that just came by, $600 to remove it from my property (east line, west line and south line) ONLY. Neighbor to the east and west (where it came from) and the city deal with their part themselves.

Wouldn't be bad to have a chainsaw, I do have a 10% coupon at lowes and home depot.
 

TwiceOver

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Dec 20, 2002
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Since South Dakota has such high winds, there is a law that requires insurance companies to pay for downed tree removal at no cost to the owner.

Sounds like a big ass tree if reaches power lines on its side.

 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
harvest as much as you can for bbq

seriously

my dad had a couple of large trees fall down in his yard years ago, it was easy to find someone to haul it away for nada just because it gave them free firewood. he called a couple buddies and one knew a guy who had a big truck and some free time.
 

Vette73

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Was the tree healthy?

If it was then yes you need to see if your insruance will cover it and if not then it is yours.

If you can show it was not taken care of and unhealthy then it would be there fault.
 

Eli

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Damn, that's a pretty fucked up situation.

But realize something - that wood is worth a lot of money. Don't pay someone 2,000$ to cut it up and keep it. They'd probably make another 2,000$ of selling it.

Figure out a way to cut it up and sell it yourself. After all, it's your tree now. ;)
 

Titan

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oak is good stuff. If it isn't rotted that is some serious dough. Especially since it's so old you can get some huge boards out of that. You could get someone to take it for free if they keep the wood. I would try to figure out how to make the money. Take the whole tree.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: Eli
Damn, that's a pretty fucked up situation.

But realize something - that wood is worth a lot of money. Don't pay someone 2,000$ to cut it up and keep it. They'd probably make another 2,000$ of selling it.

Figure out a way to cut it up and sell it yourself. After all, it's your tree now. ;)

Oak, esp green, does not go for that much. I can get green oak for .85-$1.50 a Bf pretty easy. The high end is QSWO, but he did not say what kind of oak and then QS takes more time.

That and he said someone has looked at it and thinks it has metal in it. If there is metal then no one would touch that.
 

Andrew1990

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hmm, give me $100 and a case of beer and I'll drive down there with my chainsaw and van and haul that sucker away, lol.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Was the tree healthy?

If it was then yes you need to see if your insruance will cover it and if not then it is yours.

If you can show it was not taken care of and unhealthy then it would be there fault.

Impossible, in a perfect world... maybe, but even with photos and letters to the neighbor asking them to remove the unhealthy tree (from before it came down), you can not PROVE your case in a court of law. I have attempted to subrogate neighbors for this very same thing, and the lawyers wouldn't touch it, even with years of evidence. The problem is the municipality needs to find grounds for requiring a homeowner remove a dying tree, and notify them in writing, AND give them sufficient time to get the tree removed; assuming the municipality has an ordinance on the books dealing with such. Even then a judge and/or jury would need to find the neighbor negligent. The cost of such proceedings always outweighs the cost of just sucking it up. Suck it up!
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Eli
Damn, that's a pretty fucked up situation.

But realize something - that wood is worth a lot of money. Don't pay someone 2,000$ to cut it up and keep it. They'd probably make another 2,000$ of selling it.

Figure out a way to cut it up and sell it yourself. After all, it's your tree now. ;)

Oak, esp green, does not go for that much. I can get green oak for .85-$1.50 a Bf pretty easy. The high end is QSWO, but he did not say what kind of oak and then QS takes more time.

That and he said someone has looked at it and thinks it has metal in it. If there is metal then no one would touch that.

I assume you mean Quarter-Sawn White Oak? What about quarter sawing it takes longer?

I think you mean kiln drying it takes some time and has a cost associated with it. Whether it's WO, RO, QSWO, QSRO, they all take the same amount of time and effort to kiln dry. White oak is somewhat more rare, thus the higher cost. Quarter sawing involves more waste, which is the reason for the cost increase.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Was the tree healthy?

If it was then yes you need to see if your insruance will cover it and if not then it is yours.

If you can show it was not taken care of and unhealthy then it would be there fault.

as healthy as a 100+ year old tree can be. outwardly, yes it appeared to be fine.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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Originally posted by: Eli
Damn, that's a pretty fucked up situation.

But realize something - that wood is worth a lot of money. Don't pay someone 2,000$ to cut it up and keep it. They'd probably make another 2,000$ of selling it.

Figure out a way to cut it up and sell it yourself. After all, it's your tree now. ;)

RIght now if the city gets involved it goes into a huge SSI shredder (800hp, 12 cylinder cat dielse, hard-mounted on a semi trailer.) The mulch is being sold to a company outside of metro east St Louis (Sauget) who does mulch operations and sells bags to stores.

Bear in mind there were several thousand trees of all different sizes came downed this day. Being declared a natural disaster for FEMA funds. Even the guy across the street from us who has some sort of outdoor furnace has about 100 chunks of wood and says he's set for 2 winters to come.