What a crock of @#%^$

[Tripleshot]

I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

You must be kidding, you really think that when the focus of a police force becomes obtaining property or money through forfeiture, rather than upholding the laws, that abuses don't become the rule of the day?

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: datalink7
The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

And what part of possession of illegal drugs and narcotics is wrong?

 

[Tripleshot]

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

Maybe I want to cultivate, posess and sell pot----LEGALLY!!

What a dumbass question.

You sir, no nothing about the subject, other than what right wing, mypoic,judgemental, jerkoff redknecks tell you.

Legalize this plant the way it was 100 years ago, and let people live without supression and control like you seem to advocate. Would you like someone arresting you for oral sex with your wife? It's probably against the law too, but you don't feel the heat or have your car and home siezed for doing it, do you? But in some states that act is just as criminal as the misdemeanor offensive of purchasing $30 worth of pot for personal use.

Republican, aren't you?

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

No, I do not believe that all laws are correct, nor justified.

The fact remains, if you choose to defy the law you will be punished.

Change the law, or if you can't change the law, continue in your illegal ways and pay the price.

Sounds pretty simple to me.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: vi_edit

It's illegal, they bought it, they got arrested. See anything wrong with this? I sure don't.

Speeding is illegal, but I don't have to buy my car back from the state for doing 10 over.

Speeding isn't a felony... did you know that?

Either is possesion of marijuana... did you know that?

 

[gopunk]

you know it's really weird... i have never posessed weed... and surprise surprise, i've never had that situation happen to me! shocking :Q

i think drugs should be legalized, but if you knowingly break a law, you really have no right to complain, mouth off, or whatever when you are caught. that is your own fault and nobody elses. if you have a problem with the law, go lobby or something instead of whining about how some guy got punished for breaking the law.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

No, I do not believe that all laws are correct, nor justified.

The fact remains, if you choose to defy the law you will be punished.

Change the law, or if you can't change the law, continue in your illegal ways and pay the price.

Sounds pretty simple to me.

It is very simple, but the problem is that it has become Americas way to just sit around and complain about something. Complain complain complain. STFU

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

No, I do not believe that all laws are correct, nor justified.

The fact remains, if you choose to defy the law you will be punished.

Change the law, or if you can't change the law, continue in your illegal ways and pay the price.

Sounds pretty simple to me.

It is very simple, but the problem is that it has become Americas way to just sit around and complain about something. Complain complain complain. STFU

Ad Infinitum.

Whiney little babies who want their ice cream cone before they eat their dinner.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I don't give a tinkers damn about what some of you think about how justifed the sting/confiscation issue is> The fact is it is way over the top in a civilized society. These stings are to reward underfunded police departments with colateral to EXTORT money from otherwise law abiding people. Cops go to the bar and celebrate after these kinds of episodes. I have seen them in bars doing it in both California and Arizona.

I think this practice should be halted and police who do it should spend time in jail for setting up stings like this. Its Extortion and racketeering under color of law. Go to the senators and representitives and push a petiton to have this practice halted. If you live in a jurisdiction where this takes place, let your officals know your feelings.

My $.02

If you don't cultivate, posess or sell illegal drugs you don't have anything to worry about.


What's your problem?

The problem, obviously, is that he (and I actually) believe the law is wrong. What is your problem? You think that all laws are correct, and always have been?

Of course not, but while the laws exist the way they do you're a freakin' moron if you buy drugs with your car.

The consequences are clear, whether the risk is worth it is up to you.

Viper GTS

 

[spaceman]

my my my there are some robo-relics in this thread.

the law is the law blah blah blah ....drones.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: ncircle
my my my there are some robo-relics in this thread.

the law is the law blah blah blah ....drones.

So if you abide by the law you're a drone?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ncircle
my my my there are some robo-relics in this thread.

the law is the law blah blah blah ....drones.

I'd like to see you say that when someone steals your car.

 

[JellyBaby]

pulse8, there are so many laws on the books that just about every one of us ought to be in jail right now. Absolute law is the antethisis of justice especially when laws become petty, unfair and the punishment doesn't fit the action.

So the question is: should buying a few ounces of something that's not terribly harmful in the first place, an act that in no way violates the rights of anyone else, lead to the siezure of property, dollar penalties and incarceration?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: JellyBaby
So the question is: should buying a few ounces of something that's not terribly harmful in the first place, an act that in no way violates the rights of anyone else, lead to the siezure of property, dollar penalties and incarceration?

"terribly harmful" is a subjective term.

A better question would be: Why are you buying it?

 

Originally posted by: brxndxn

It's illegal, they bought it, they got arrested. See anything wrong with this? I sure don't.

Plus, whatever happened to entrapment? Perhaps if the pot wasn't there - offered by police officers - then people wouldn't have bought it. Why do officers of the law get to break the law to enforce it?

You have no idea what entrapment is, do you?

This is entrapment: Police (undercover) pull up to your house, and tell you about an easy way to make 20 bucks. All you have to do is plant some seeds (being mary jane seeds) and let them grow. You refuse, they go away. They come back over the next couple of weeks and raise the amount of money they are willing to pay in order for you to plant and grow pot. Finally, when they reach 2000 dollars, they arrest you for buying a controlled substance with intent to grow and sell. Basically, they took a law-abiting citizen and implanted the idea of breaking the law into his head, then created the enviornment from which he could break the law, then offered him the chance to break the law.

In the above case, the buyers already had the intent to break the law, and the enviornment. If the police simply provide the oppertunity to, then it is NOT entrapment.

As for the rest of you, it is up to the DA and the courts to decide whether or not to hold the vehical and sell it in an auction. Normally, they can sieze the car and everything contained there-in until the end of the trial, and which point the court issues an order to release all gathered evidence back to the defendents if it was legal (IE: If the car was bought with drug money, they would not give it back, nor would they give back the drugs. But if the car was bought through legal means, then the car should be released back. If not, the sheriffs office can be sued.)

Perhaps many of you should do some reading before spitting ignorance out your mouth.

 

[Acts837]

Maybe Grizzly Adams knew how our society was turning for the worse.

 

[JellyBaby]

"terribly harmful" is a subjective term.
A better question would be: Why are you buying it?

Why do you care?

 

[optoman]

One of the reasons for the sting might be to clean up a neighborhood. When people go to the same places to buy, then those places typically are not the best. They become home to more than just selling pot. Harder drugs will always accompany the lesser ones if the situation goes unchecked. The tough laws are meant to stop the dealing on the open streets and clean them up. It sends a clear signal. That is why you are better off going to someone you know you can trust and not just going up to some guy on the street.

Actually when I was in Hawaii a couple of weeks ago, we were travelling down one of the back roads and some guy came up to us asking if we wanted to buy. Passed on the offer but he seemed like it was a common thing. Now this would be an acceptable thing because he is in the middle of nowhere and doesn't have many neighbors to deal with.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Another episode of COPS was on Fox tonight and one of the segments pretty much disgusted me. The local cops were running a little undercover drug sting operation. They had some hip-hop types posing as dealers on a side street and after they made the sale, cops in SUVs would swarm in and make the arrest.

Get this: one person bought $30 worth of marijuana from the undercover dealer and the big boys in blue moved in for the attack. During the arrest, the cop said both the driver and the passenger are going to jail and the cops are going to seize their car and if they want it back, they can buy it from the sheriff. What a #&!@ load of crap! There are FAR more horrid crimes than purchasing a freakin' plant yet our government has us brainwashed into believing that this necessitates jail time and government confiscation of private property.

You don't have to be a pothead or a legalization proponent to be utterly disgusted with the War on Drugs. The punishment must fit the crime. What awful crime was committed?

That's sew ghey and I completely agree. I think busting people for drugs like that is totally dumb. but the Police force (at least around here) have nothing else to do, so they like to make peoples lives miserable (maybe because theirs are)

POO to that!!!!!!!

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Yield
That's sew ghey and I completely agree. I think busting people for drugs like that is totally dumb. but the Police force (at least around here) have nothing else to do, so they like to make peoples lives miserable (maybe because theirs are)

POO to that!!!!!!!

Or how about they are doing their job?

 

Originally posted by: Yield
That's sew ghey and I completely agree. I think busting people for drugs like that is totally dumb. but the Police force (at least around here) have nothing else to do, so they like to make peoples lives miserable (maybe because theirs are)

POO to that!!!!!!!

like, OMG, you are so like, totally an idiot.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: JellyBaby
So the question is: should buying a few ounces of something that's not terribly harmful in the first place, an act that in no way violates the rights of anyone else, lead to the siezure of property, dollar penalties and incarceration?

"terribly harmful" is a subjective term.

A better question would be: Why are you buying it?

A better question than that, why the hell does the government care?