Well there you have it. Evolution has officially been debunked.

[bommy261]

yep, my grandfather was not an ape, so evolution did not happen. the logic is sound. i was born/raised a catholic and if u seriously believe in creationism u need to get your head checked

 

[Elias824]

"god created a perfect world"

lawl, this is also pretty old. Anyone who hasn't seen it should go watch bible camp, its on netflix. Its pretty terrible to in terms of brainwashing children. We really need to learn to teach kids in an objective manner and let them make up their own minds.

these are the same people that point the finger at middle east countries for indoctrinating their kids

Well thats just because they worship the WRONG god, everyone knows the American Jesus is the correct one.

 

[TridenT]

Well thats just because they worship the WRONG god, everyone knows the American Jesus is the correct one.

If by American Jesus you mean:

 

[Adrenaline]

No. He has facts. You have "faith." Facts have logic and hard-science on their side. Faith doesn't.

My faith in God is strong. There is to much on this planet to be explained solely by evolution.

When the theory of evolution can be proven 100% factual, you then will have all the facts, until then you just have a belief based upon assumptions. Trace back evolution 100% then get back to me.

 

[Adrenaline]

yep, my grandfather was not an ape, so evolution did not happen. the logic is sound. i was born/raised a catholic and if u seriously believe in creationism u need to get your head checked

Yet someone else on these forums who does not believe in creationism, yet forces their belief system towards others. If that person does not believe what they are being told then that person is an "idiot". Awesome way to prove a point.

 

[Kadarin]

My faith in God is strong. There is to much on this planet to be explained solely by evolution.

When the theory of evolution can be proven 100% factual, you then will have all the facts, until then you just have a belief based upon assumptions. Trace back evolution 100% then get back to me.

As do you.

 

[Adrenaline]

As do you.

Unlike others, I understand your point.

 

[destrekor]

these are the same people that point the finger at middle east countries for indoctrinating their kids

:awe: Pot calling the kettle black syndrome probably. :awe:

Yep, I laugh and mock all people equally. It's the only way to be sure.

I won't indoctrinate any future kids of mine any particular way.
They won't be taken to church, because I sure as hell am not going. But they are free to believe in whatever they want.

Hell, I'll even nurture a curious young mind with spiritual concepts should they so choose to seek such things. I have no problem with spirituality, just keep it personal. Your spirituality is your spirituality - it is not to be made for mass consumption, forced on others through unspeakable atrocities throughout history.
Basic spiritual ideas are rather nurturing to a growing mind imho, they have strength in the mind of an individual that is unrivaled by pure logical thoughts - at least, it takes a very very strong and disciplined and rather animalistic human mind to really reach the same level without spiritual ideas. I just cannot personally accept them because my brain has tuned itself to completely oppose all those concepts.
There's a genetic link in the brain where higher thought processes cause us to reach for answers, and having those answers is rewarding within the CNS. It's a natural "zen" that probably was a boon to our survival throughout the early days, considering we are incredibly at odds against nature in comparison to just about every other species. Weak, slow, no jaw strength, terribly agility, no claws, eyesight is questionable. We have our mental capabilities, and dexterity (all primates have rather fine dexterity, though without the mind it doesn't have the same potential).

I now use all that spiritual peace to be more in-tune with the animal nature of survival and use the brain to forecast the species' long-term survival. And if I feel like thinking of origins, I either look to lectures on the universe or ponder the idea of advanced aliens from another universe seeding this one. The former is peaceful, the latter drives my mind absolutely nuts. And that's the closest I can get to the thought of a creator since I don't believe life existing before the universe is statistically possible. 😛

 

[Elias824]

Yep, I laugh and mock all people equally. It's the only way to be sure.

I won't indoctrinate any future kids of mine any particular way.
They won't be taken to church, because I sure as hell am not going. But they are free to believe in whatever they want.

This is pretty much how I was raised, my dads an atheist though strangely he sent me to a private Christan school for about 3 years, wanted us to understand what it was about. Other then that he said he didn't care if we believe in god or wanted to be religious or whatever.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I got to the point of the woman saying that "it's so much easier to explain things to the kids, the flood and the fossils and" CLOSE WINDOW.

I don't give a fuck what's easier to explain to your kids. Take the extra 15 minutes of effort and do it right.

That's when I had to close it too D:

 

[TridenT]

This is pretty much how I was raised, my dads an atheist though strangely he sent me to a private Christan school for about 3 years, wanted us to understand what it was about. Other then that he said he didn't care if we believe in god or wanted to be religious or whatever.

Whoa... 😵 Your dad had a little bit of too much confidence in his assumption you would come out just alright after going to some religious school (Alright as in, not believing you're GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT I SAY BOY!!!!). I'm surprised your brain wasn't washed bleached vigorously.

I'd probably tell my kids there is no god if they asked. Oh, and I would never approve of them going to Church or whatever unless it was just to see what all the hub-bub was about. 😛 (And then they would come home that night.. scared for life)

 

[Eli]

My faith in God is strong. There is to much on this planet to be explained solely by evolution.

When the theory of evolution can be proven 100% factual, you then will have all the facts, until then you just have a belief based upon assumptions. Trace back evolution 100% then get back to me.

There is nothing on this planet that cannot be explained by evolution. That's one of the many reasons why it's the best theory we have...

Evolution is a fact. If you do not believe in evolution, you are ignorant.

However... Why are evolution and creationism mutually exclusive? Maybe God put everything here, and then evolution began? This argument is perfectly valid. However, it doesn't make any logical sense. We are not special. We were placed here, and everything else evolves around us? Yeah, and the Sun revolves around the Earth.

Just like we are not the center of the universe, we are not the reason this planet exists. We exist because of the planet. I sincerely hope that such narrow minded thinking goes the way of the dinosaur some day. Pun intended.

<-- Atheist.

 

[Adrenaline]

There is nothing on this planet that cannot be explained by evolution.

That's kinda why it's the best theory we have...

Evolution is a fact. If you do not believe in evolution, you are ignorant.

If you wish to believe that we are somehow special, and did not evolve, that is your prerogative. That doesn't change the fact that evolution is a proven phenomenon.

Yet another person calling someone else ignorant if they don't believe what they want you to believe.

 

[nageov3t]

My faith in God is strong. There is to much on this planet to be explained solely by evolution.

When the theory of evolution can be proven 100&#37; factual, you then will have all the facts, until then you just have a belief based upon assumptions. Trace back evolution 100% then get back to me.

idk, it's kinda silly to think that evolution and faith in God are diametrically opposed.

I went to catholic school and were were taught evolution in bio class by a priest.

 

[TridenT]

Yet another person calling someone else ignorant if they don't believe what they want you to believe.

Just because we're saying you're ignorant of how 2+2 = 4 does not mean that we're in the wrong.

 

[JM Aggie08]

I'm catholic and i had to stop watching....


I'm sure the resident atheists here got a huuuuuge boner for the opportunity to bash religion though.

 

[Adrenaline]

Just because we're saying you're ignorant of how 2+2 = 4 does not mean that we're in the wrong.

Your ignorance on so many issues continually shines through so often that I can't take a single thing you say seriously.

Yes, ATOT where 50% of the people here don't believe in God can be used as a barometer for the real world.

 

[Gibsons]

My faith in God is strong. There is to much on this planet to be explained solely by evolution.

When the theory of evolution can be proven 100% factual, you then will have all the facts, until then you just have a belief based upon assumptions. Trace back evolution 100% then get back to me.

No scientific theory is ever 100%, so you can go ahead and throw away quantum mechanics, relativity, thermodynamics, orbitals and any other scientific theory you care to name, past, present and future along with evolution.

If you can tell us your theory of how life on earth came to be in its present state, and how it has more than 0% evidence, by all means let us know. Hopefully it can explain retroviral insertions, CpG islands, chromosome structure and dinosaurs.

 

[ra990]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucuOOipIalw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

[TridenT]

Your ignorance on so many issues continually shines through so often that I can't take a single thing you say seriously.

Yes, ATOT where 50% of the people here don't believe in God can be used as a barometer for the real world.

Keep using non sequiturs and failing miserably. I'm sure it gets you real far in all your arguments.

 

[Adrenaline]

No scientific theory is ever 100%, so you can go ahead and throw away quantum mechanics, relativity, thermodynamics, orbitals and any other scientific theory you care to name, past, present and future along with evolution.

If you can tell us your theory of how life on earth came to be in its present state, and how it has more than 0% evidence, by all means let us know. Hopefully it can explain retroviral insertions, CpG islands, chromosome structure and dinosaurs.

I see both sides of it. I understand both viewpoints. I have faith in God.

 

[TridenT]

No scientific theory is ever 100%, so you can go ahead and throw away quantum mechanics, relativity, thermodynamics, orbitals and any other scientific theory you care to name, past, present and future along with evolution.

If you can tell us your theory of how life on earth came to be in its present state, and how it has more than 0% evidence, by all means let us know. Hopefully it can explain retroviral insertions, CpG islands, chromosome structure and dinosaurs.

Faith, bro. Faith... Obviuzly. YOU SHULD READ DAH BIBLE... ITS GAWT DALL DUR UNSIRS

 

[JM Aggie08]

Whoa... 😵 Your dad had a little bit of too much confidence in his assumption you would come out just alright after going to some religious school (Alright as in, not believing you're GOING TO HELL IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT I SAY BOY!!!!). I'm surprised your brain wasn't washed bleached vigorously.

I'd probably tell my kids there is no god if they asked. Oh, and I would never approve of them going to Church or whatever unless it was just to see what all the hub-bub was about. 😛 (And then they would come home that night.. scared for life)

Funny. I went to catholic school and turned out just fine. In addition to that, I can also get a proper haircut without consulting an internet forum as well as be a guest at someone's house without insulting them at the dinner table with my childlike eating habits.

True story, brah.

 

[Gibsons]

I see both sides of it. I understand both viewpoints. I have faith in God.

Great.

What does your faith have to do with scientific theory?

 

[Kadarin]

Unlike others, I understand your point.

I have no issue (at all) with anyone who has faith in God. I do, however, with people who choose to take the Bible or any other religious text as absolute historical/scientific truth.

Faith is a personal choice to believe in something that is essentially unknowable by observation. Even though it is my choice to not believe in God, I cannot say that God does not exist and nor can I say that anyone's belief on the matter is wrong.

My feeling about the Theory of Evolution is summed up in my sig.