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Well, I said goodbye to my Marlboro habit.

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Damn! You're saving $200?!? Just by switching to another brand? Damn, and Marlboros are cheap compared to what I used to smoke. Kent Golden Lights...cost me over $4/pack before I quit. I think Marlboros were only $2+. I quit all together and I'm only saving about $80 a month. What a rip. I might as well start back up...I thought I was saving a lot of dough.
 
thats still way too expensive. www.yessmoke.com is the place to go.

Lucky,

Only if staying with national brands. I switched to Native, and the transition to Niagra's was smooth and painless. I've looked at the overseas sites and, frankly, even if they were the same price as the Niagra's, I don't want to wait the two weeks to a month it takes to get the product. With cigarettessentdirect, it takes four days to get here.

Russ, NCNE
 
Now if only mail order beer could save me some $$. I'll take a keg of Guinness for $60...free shipping of course. 😎

 
i quit smoking 5 months ago because everyone i know that smokes is lazy as hell. no exercise at all. But yesturday I had a smoke because i was so streesed out it cleared my mind though. I really hate them otherwise. They smell, they cost money, and they mess up your body.
 
Smoking is a nasty habit, so are other things..

The majority of smokers do not die from smoking. Plain and simple, its a farce. Yes they may cause cancer, but know what, so does everything else. People just need to let smokers be, most aren't going to get cancer from smoking, most don't throw their butts on the ground, etc etc. Just like everything else if you do to much of it, its going to cause problems.

 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Now if only mail order beer could save me some $$. I'll take a keg of Guinness for $60...free shipping of course.

Funny thing you should mention that.

I heard on the radio the other day that the Canadian government via Canada Post is starting up a mail order liquor and beer delivery service.

As for you Russ, I may soon be in the same boat. I've smoked the same brand for 8 years, and the provincial government is considering a
$15.00 increase in the tax on a carton of cigs. That would raise the price to over $50.00 a carton here. If thats the case, theres a reserve about a 35 minute drive from my house. 😀
 
Oh and for the record, my great grandmother smoked two packs a day for 80 years, and dipped for over 50, she died at the age of 93, she never had cancer and she died of a massive stroke. She was never bed ridden, till she had that stroke, and then three or four days later she passed away.
 
...one month ago today. I finally got fed up with flushing money down the government sewer. This state sucks up over $2 a pack in taxes, and the bloodsucking thieves just keep coming back for more. The last straw was a ballot initiative that the moronic voters passed adding yet another 60 cents a pack in tax. This tax was billed as money to help the "less fortunate" with health care. Kiss my ass.
Only morons here are the ones that smoke.

Kiss your ass? Suck a butt.

I'm done, finito, finished contributing to the stupidity.
Doesn't seem you have finished.
 
The only morons here are those people bitching at smokers, but they themselves shovel boatloads of fatty foods, soda and other junk food in their mouths daily. That sh!t by far kills more people than smoking ever will. Its a fact, you eat unhealthy, you are unhealthy, smokers aren't all unhealthy.
 
too bad that doesnt work here 🙁

cigarettes just got jacked to $10cdn (~$6 USD) per pack!

and weve got no ghetto brands. ALL cigs are the same price.



Ive been thinking of starting growing tobacco. haha

i roll so its cheaper ~$12cdn for 50g (~$8 usd for a little under 2oz)
 
Originally posted by: LH
Oh and for the record, my great grandmother smoked two packs a day for 80 years, and dipped for over 50, she died at the age of 93, she never had cancer and she died of a massive stroke. She was never bed ridden, till she had that stroke, and then three or four days later she passed away.

Boy, a 93-year-old woman who smokes and chews tobacco - charming!
 
She was a fiesty old lady.

Im sure there was some moonshining going on a earlier in her life too. It was Arkansas afterall.
 
Originally posted by: LH
The only morons here are those people bitching at smokers, but they themselves shovel boatloads of fatty foods, soda and other junk food in their mouths daily. That sh!t by far kills more people than smoking ever will. Its a fact, you eat unhealthy, you are unhealthy, smokers aren't all unhealthy.
Each year, more than 400,000 Americans die from cigarette smoking. It's too bad so many people kill themselves each year when their are millions of people suffering and dying every year from things that they can do anything about. Too bad they can't swap bodies...

Smoking is stupid, disprove that.
 
Each year, more than 400,000 Americans die from cigarette smoking. It's too bad so many people kill themselves each year when their are millions of people suffering and dying every year from things that they can do anything about. Too bad they can't swap bodies...

Smoking is stupid, disprove that.
only problem i have with this is the "from cigarette smoking". they don't die DIRECTLY from the cigarette smoking. they die from cigarette smoking related diseases. what are the causes of death for these 400k Americans?

Smoking isn't stupid if it isn't your choice. if anyone wants to smoke, great fine with me. i don't, and that is my choice as well.

 
Originally posted by: pyonir
Each year, more than 400,000 Americans die from cigarette smoking. It's too bad so many people kill themselves each year when their are millions of people suffering and dying every year from things that they can do anything about. Too bad they can't swap bodies...

Smoking is stupid, disprove that.
only problem i have with this is the "from cigarette smoking". they don't die DIRECTLY from the cigarette smoking. they die from cigarette smoking related diseases. what are the causes of death for these 400k Americans?

Smoking isn't stupid if it isn't your choice. if anyone wants to smoke, great fine with me. i don't, and that is my choice as well.
Umm, k, Sally wasn't killed by a drunk driver, she was killed by massive internal bleeding. What's the difference? That last bit is a fine line of reasoning as well 😕
 
only problem i have with this is the "from cigarette smoking". they don't die DIRECTLY from the cigarette smoking. they die from cigarette smoking related diseases. what are the causes of death for these 400k Americans?
By that logic, no one dies of AIDS.

For the record, I could give a shît less if anyone here, Russ included, smokes, as long as they don't blow the smoke in my face.

I hate smoking, but you know what? All you idiots making generalizations out there - i.e. all these anti-smokers are eating fatty foods, etc. - are just as bad as those who want smoking banned completely.

Rob
 
i think waiting in line for more than 15 mins for a movie is stupid. Does that mean i go around to every movie theater with a long line and tell each person they are stupid? no, because it is their choice to wait in line an hour for a movie.

I think telling people they are stupid over something that isn't your choice is stupid.
 
By that logic, no one dies of AIDS.

what i am getting at is: are these 400k cases separated as smoking causing the disease. or are they lumping all the people that die of heart disease in with them as well, just because heart disease is a possible result of smoking?
 
what i am getting at is: are these 400k cases separated as smoking causing the disease. or are they lumping all the people that die of heart disease in with them as well, just because heart disease is a possible result of smoking?
I don't have the numbers offhand, but the number of diseases reported as being caused by smoking are tenable. More people die from heart disease than from smoking-related heart disease; a distinction is made in the statistical computation.

Rob
 
Originally posted by: Entity
what i am getting at is: are these 400k cases separated as smoking causing the disease. or are they lumping all the people that die of heart disease in with them as well, just because heart disease is a possible result of smoking?
I don't have the numbers offhand, but the number of diseases reported as being caused by smoking are tenable. More people die from heart disease than from smoking-related heart disease; a distinction is made in the statistical computation.

Rob

thank you. that is what i was asking.
 
There are about 80million obese people in the US, ALL will have major medical problems, the majority of smokers do not get major medical problems.

Which is worse? Junk food, or smoking. That would be junk food... Its a far bigger drain than smoking, its also far deadlier. There are far more lard asses that eat junk food that have major medical problems than there are smokers dieing and with major medical problems.

Eating that fast food is JUST as deadly as smoking.
 
Originally posted by: pyonir
i think waiting in line for more than 15 mins for a movie is stupid. Does that mean i go around to every movie theater with a long line and tell each person they are stupid? no, because it is their choice to wait in line an hour for a movie.

I think telling people they are stupid over something that isn't your choice is stupid.
Hey, he brought it up. And I think I have a d*mn right to say something when I'm standing in line to return books and a couple of slobs in front of me are sucking on a cigarette, and when they're done they throw the butts on the ground.
 
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