Question Well I had this lawyer mail me something about a class action suite against AMD...:O

[funboy6942]

I filled it out, all 3 of them for I had bought a 8320, 8350, and a 8370, and I guess my first check, or for all 3 not sure, but I glad I took the 20 min to fill it out and send it back, for I thought I was going to get 10-15 bucks, but nope 😀

Guess they pay you to buy AMD 😛 🙂

 

[VirtualLarry]

Have a look at the ebay prices for FX 8350's. Paid $33 for one with a missing pin 18 months ago & went looking for another one.... The current selling prices are up to $365 new in box, $300 open box, $210 used.

Wow, I think that I still have an FX-8350 BNIB around here... somewhere.

 

[funboy6942]

Dang, and to think I sold the 8370 with a board for about a hundo a few months ago, dang 😛

 

[Maxima1]

Dang, and to think I sold the 8370 with a board for about a hundo a few months ago, dang 😛

Thinking about it, this probably has to do with people staying home and having little to do but play games. FX market supply is low with no new parts being made, so even small demand increases can rock the prices a bit for those looking to do an upgrade on their old rigs. Still bewildered since Ryzen 1700 can be found for ~$150 or less -- not a whole lot more with board and DDR4 than piledriver upgrade, while also having significant power savings.

 

[kawi6rr]

I built a system around the 8350 and loved it! Ran that chip for 5 years and couldn't complain about it at all, granted I just did light gaming and some web/sql development but never had issues with speed.

 

[blckgrffn]

Thinking about it, this probably has to do with people staying home and having little to do but play games. FX market supply is low with no new parts being made, so even small demand increases can rock the prices a bit for those looking to do an upgrade on their old rigs. Still bewildered since Ryzen 1700 can be found for ~$150 or less -- not a whole lot more with board and DDR4 than piledriver upgrade, while also having significant power savings.

What's bizarre to me is... what are people upgrading from? I mean, you have to be dropping this into an existing build, right? So you have have a FX4100 or 6300 (which seems to me to have been the most popular sub 8xxx choices, one being cheap AF and the other being considered the poor mans i5 for a while) build and you want it to be... faster? I mean, really?!?! If you are willing to rip a CPU out of socket, change out a cooler, etc. I can't believe you wouldn't be reading enough online to know about the 1600 AF situation.

We definitely aren't seeing threads about "how do I replace my old AMD CPU" here, and I am guessing on Reddit or Tom's or where ever they would be similarly "educated" in how fiscally poor decision making that is.

Anyway, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Topweasel]

What's bizarre to me is... what are people upgrading from? I mean, you have to be dropping this into an existing build, right? So you have have a FX4100 or 6300 (which seems to me to have been the most popular sub 8xxx choices, one being cheap AF and the other being considered the poor mans i5 for a while) build and you want it to be... faster? I mean, really?!?! If you are willing to rip a CPU out of socket, change out a cooler, etc. I can't believe you wouldn't be reading enough online to know about the 1600 AF situation.

We definitely aren't seeing threads about "how do I replace my old AMD CPU" here, and I am guessing on Reddit or Tom's or where ever they would be similarly "educated" in how fiscally poor decision making that is.

Anyway, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well the trick is usually in the business market. You have these old parts sales place that buy up stock of parts that are no longer manufactured and then parcel them out. So for something like this its usually business's (or Home computers that they do pay for work on) that has something they aren't sure about. Maybe it's still running XP, or Windows 7. None of the new stuff is supported under anything but 10. But it's mission critical. So its 1k to build a new computer, $500 to overhaul it, or $300 to get a CPU that they can pop in and have it back up and running. You have things like Tuners, Capture cards, audio equipment, automated machinery using software or drivers that never made it to Win 10. Updating the machine might mean updating the whole infunstructure. I had my dad almost get scalpped trying to find a thuban, with his Deneb I think still in use because 70% of what he used his PC for was high quality captures. The software can't be relicensed anymore (scheduler and channel manager), the tuner doesn't work in newer OS's, his whole setup can't take anything that would make him swap out his mobo. This was his primary computer, but he tended to do more regular computing on a Desktop replacement and a thin and light depending on where he was in the house rather than do anything but maintenance on that computer.

 

[ElFenix]

I'm surprise with all this. How is this even possible?

in the US, anyone can sue anyone at any time for anything. in california in particular, there are consumer protection laws that protect consumers. amd's claims about core counts were misleading enough that they felt like funding this settlement was a better option than litigating out and potentially losing.

Come on guys, when the verdict against AMD came out I remember many on these forums saying it was a BS ruling. Sounds like these payments have a sizable chance of not happening if there was a different judge.

settlement, not verdict. judge doesn't have much do to other than certify the class, which was pretty much a slam dunk from the get-go.


the consumer computer press did a really terrible job of parsing this sentence:“All persons who purchased one or more of the following AMD computer chips either (1) while residing in California or (2) after visiting the AMD.com website: FX-8120, FX-8150, FX-8320, FX-8350, FX-8370, FX-9370, and FX-9590.”

seems like most of them ignored the "or" in the middle of it or thought the second clause meant you had to purchase from amd.com (where you can't, and never have been able to, buy a CPU).

 

[NostaSeronx]

amd's claims about core counts were misleading enough that they felt like funding this settlement was a better option than litigating out and potentially losing.

Dickey lost the first lawsuit and sued another time. The settlement was to prevent future lawsuits from occurring.

1. You get your money.
2. You never can say they weren't cores in another lawsuit going forward. (basically)

Hence, if you go to the AMD website today all the FX's are still 8-cores/6-cores/4-cores.

 

[ElFenix]

Dickey lost the first lawsuit

got a link for that? because that's not normally how things work. res judicata and all that.

 

[NostaSeronx]

got a link for that? because that's not normally how things work. res judicata and all that.

"On December 21, 2015, we filed a motion to dismiss the complaint, which was granted on April 7, 2016. The plaintiffs then filed an amended complaint with
a narrowed putative class definition, which the Court dismissed upon our motion on October 31, 2016. The plaintiffs subsequently filed a second amended
complaint, and we filed a motion to dismiss the second amended complaint. On June 14, 2017, the Court issued an order granting in part and denying in part our motion to dismiss, and allowing the plaintiffs to move forward with a portion of their complaint."

I meant the above, actually. I am use to dismissals being permanent. Even if AMD won there is still different courts that they could have gone to. Which the settlement was used to prevent further complaints.

Overall 12.1 mil is nothing in the better net income quarters=>

2019-12-31	$170 mil
2019-09-30	$120 mil
2019-06-30	$35 mil
2019-03-31	$16 mil
2018-12-31	$38 mil
2018-09-30	$102 mil
2018-06-30	$116 mil
2018-03-31	$81 mil

 

[ElFenix]

courts are typically fairly permissive at allowing you to replead, which is what that was doing.

as for dismissals being permanent, dismissals with prejudice are, dismissals without prejudice are not. dismissal for failure to state a cause of action is almost never going to be with prejudice unless you're really abusing the system.