Not myself obviously, my 5 and 7 year old daughters have an orientation for their new girl scout troop and, after some digging, I found out that one of their troop leaders is a 40 something year old single guy, with I believe no daughters in the program (no social media photos with daughters)... Being that I rarely trust single guys above 35 these days, am I being paranoid or just put them in another troop before they get attached?
Weird to quit Girl Scout troop over male troop leader?
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highland145
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They'll be safe at the Catholic church....
Does seem a bit odd. In general, I'm sure you have/will had some conversation with them about other people being inappropriate. Read somewhere that 1 in 9 girls will be molested by an adult.
Does seem a bit odd. In general, I'm sure you have/will had some conversation with them about other people being inappropriate. Read somewhere that 1 in 9 girls will be molested by an adult.
Yeah, I'm not doing it.. Wife will call me paranoid, so be it.
A little eyebrowing raising, right? Dude's profile pictures are machismo truck driver vibe and does not give off the mr. rogers one, unless he's dating the other troop leader (maybe? I see no link between them googling) what's he doing volunteering to work with a big group of girls?
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highland145
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You're paranoid until you're proven right and then it's too late. Thankfully my kid is 18. Now he's other Dad's "problem".
Indeed. Thanks for helping me think outloud guys, I already got pushback ("their friends go there!") but I guess they're going to have to make some new friends somewhere else..You're paranoid until you're proven right and then it's too late. Thankfully my kid is 18. Now he's other Dad's "problem".
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My wife is a leader in a Boy Scout troop. So no I don't see it as weird. Many girl scout troops are shutting down as there are not enough leaders and you just showed why.
My wife had to go through a fair amount of training and other paperwork to become a leader. Chances are this guy did so as well.
So go ahead and pull out or worse run him off. But don;t complain when the girl scout troop closes up and numbers keep dropping. The girl scouts here closed and some girls joined the boy scouts as they had no other scouts to go to.
My wife had to go through a fair amount of training and other paperwork to become a leader. Chances are this guy did so as well.
So go ahead and pull out or worse run him off. But don;t complain when the girl scout troop closes up and numbers keep dropping. The girl scouts here closed and some girls joined the boy scouts as they had no other scouts to go to.
Does your child attend the troop? If not, genuine question - why does she volunteer? Yeah, this dude has back tattoos that sneak out to his shoulders. nope, nope, not going to do it - don't give a damn if it makes me judgemental
Also - with the current scandal hitting the BSA (and the apparent cover up), very weird example to use to prove your point...
highland145
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We had a woman troop leader when I was a kid but 45+ years ago all of the Dads worked. Many of the Moms, not so much.
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Maybe you could do something radical like meet the guy?
zinfamous
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Maybe he's just a reformed ex-con? Very unfair of you to not give him a chance!
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Not the one he is in. He will be eligible next year to join the one she is leader in.
And the reason this person volunteered maybe he was asked. The girl scouts are losing members and leaders so fast the Boy Scouts changed their name to just Scouts and allow girls now. But even then the Scouts still have a hard time getting leaders as well. Hence why my wife stepped up. She just got back from a camping retreat for scout training. Next one she has to carry all her gear herself and camp out.
And if he bothers you why not instead of complaining step up? Go through the background paperwork and training yourself? I'm doing training myself now so I can help out. I saw they needed more so I found out how. I also did work on the place they meet as the church they meet in does not have the funds to fix their lights and other things. So instead of complaining I bought the stuff needed and fixed some things for them.
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You are being paranoid.
Being a leader in either BSA or Girls Scouts does not have a gender requirement and sex of the leader only comes into play during campouts where specific guidelines\rules will be in place.
A lot of folks stick with Scouting even when their kids are done for the same reason why people become teachers or volunteer at any organization.
They like the ideals those organizations are promoting and they enjoy helping kids think about being good citizens instead of selfish little c0nts.
A Girl Scout Troop with male and female leaders is probably going to be a step up because it exposes the scouts to different perspectives and approaches.
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But that would mean (shudder) interacting with strangers!
/s
It's been happening since at least the early 1980s:
"By day, Judge Gerald Levy dispenses justice as an adminstrative law judge for the New York State Department of Labor. By night, he is a co-leader of three Girl Scout troops on the West Side.
By day, Dr. Gerald Lieblich teaches mathematics at Bronx Community College. But every Friday afternoon he becomes the leader of a Brownie troop in Spring Valley, N.Y.
By day and by night, Capt. Robert Oellerich fights fires in Staten Island with his Ladder Company 84. But several times a month he leads a troop of senior Girl Scouts on Staten Island.
To these men, today is more than just Friday, March 12. It is the 70th anniversary of the Girl Scouts in the United States, the organization that has become a major part of their lives through many hours of volunteer work.
They are among a growing number of busy, executive-level men who are volunteering to become Girl Scout troop leaders. They give various reasons for their decisions: the shortage of leaders, caused by the entry of more and more women into the job market; they wanted to spend more time with their daughters; if they hadn't volunteered there would have been no troop for their daughters.
''I did it because no one else would,'' said Richard Fallon, 34 years old, an executive at Instrumentation Engineering in Franklin Lakes, N.J., who leads a Brownie troop of which his daughter, Christa, 8, is a member. ''The town I live in, East Rutherford, doesn't have a good Girl Scout organization, and if I didn't do it, there would have been no troop at all for the girls.''
www.nytimes.com
And then there is this:
The Men Who are Man Enough to be a Girl Scout
allthingsgirlscouts.com
and this
Male Girl Scout Leader Explains Why His Welder’s Toolbox Is Now Filled With Glitter
John “Doc” McFadzen is 6-foot-2, about 250 pounds and has 86 tattoos and a beard. He’s also got holes in his ears.
He might be the last guy you’d expect to be in charge of a Girl Scout troop, and while he’s not the only male who leads a girl group, McFadzen definitely stands out.
He’s one of a kind. McFadzen is part of an expansion program that seeks to bring scouting to girls in different and new cities.
McFadzen runs Daisy Girl Troop 6825. The group formed earlier this year and is made up of 6- and 7-year-olds.
losangeles.cbslocal.com
"By day, Judge Gerald Levy dispenses justice as an adminstrative law judge for the New York State Department of Labor. By night, he is a co-leader of three Girl Scout troops on the West Side.
By day, Dr. Gerald Lieblich teaches mathematics at Bronx Community College. But every Friday afternoon he becomes the leader of a Brownie troop in Spring Valley, N.Y.
By day and by night, Capt. Robert Oellerich fights fires in Staten Island with his Ladder Company 84. But several times a month he leads a troop of senior Girl Scouts on Staten Island.
To these men, today is more than just Friday, March 12. It is the 70th anniversary of the Girl Scouts in the United States, the organization that has become a major part of their lives through many hours of volunteer work.
They are among a growing number of busy, executive-level men who are volunteering to become Girl Scout troop leaders. They give various reasons for their decisions: the shortage of leaders, caused by the entry of more and more women into the job market; they wanted to spend more time with their daughters; if they hadn't volunteered there would have been no troop for their daughters.
''I did it because no one else would,'' said Richard Fallon, 34 years old, an executive at Instrumentation Engineering in Franklin Lakes, N.J., who leads a Brownie troop of which his daughter, Christa, 8, is a member. ''The town I live in, East Rutherford, doesn't have a good Girl Scout organization, and if I didn't do it, there would have been no troop at all for the girls.''
GIRL SCOUT TROP LEADERS: MEN WELCOME TO APPLY (Published 1982)
And then there is this:
The Men Who are Man Enough to be a Girl Scout
The Men Who are Man Enough to be a Girl Scout
Are You Man Enough to be a Girl Scout?! The Man Enough to be A Girl Scout campaign is about recognizing men who are involved in Girl Scouts. When the men in a Girl Scout’s life step up to be …
allthingsgirlscouts.com
and this
Male Girl Scout Leader Explains Why His Welder’s Toolbox Is Now Filled With Glitter
John “Doc” McFadzen is 6-foot-2, about 250 pounds and has 86 tattoos and a beard. He’s also got holes in his ears.
He might be the last guy you’d expect to be in charge of a Girl Scout troop, and while he’s not the only male who leads a girl group, McFadzen definitely stands out.
He’s one of a kind. McFadzen is part of an expansion program that seeks to bring scouting to girls in different and new cities.
McFadzen runs Daisy Girl Troop 6825. The group formed earlier this year and is made up of 6- and 7-year-olds.
Male Girl Scout Leader Explains Why His Welder's Toolbox Is Now Filled With Glitter
"He helps us learn new things and and also learn new games," says scout Sofia Gomez.
losangeles.cbslocal.com
highland145
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bbhaag
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My wife was a den leader for 6 years while both our sons were scouts. I didn't see it as weird either but maybe parents like the OP did. If they did none of them said anything to her face. She did a kick ass job to.
Like you already mentioned, our local BSA is desperate for people to step up and take a leadership role but 99% don't. Perhaps because the OP is so uncomfortable with the idea maybe he needs to step in and become an assistant. I doubt he will though.
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mikeymikec
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Prejudice is so much better apparently.
Christ - just go talk to the guy. Sure it's harder than making assumptions and stalking the guy on social media but it's the adult thing to do.
zinfamous
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It's been happening since at least the early 1980s:
"By day, Judge Gerald Levy dispenses justice as an adminstrative law judge for the New York State Department of Labor. By night, he is a co-leader of three Girl Scout troops on the West Side.
By day, Dr. Gerald Lieblich teaches mathematics at Bronx Community College. But every Friday afternoon he becomes the leader of a Brownie troop in Spring Valley, N.Y.
By day and by night, Capt. Robert Oellerich fights fires in Staten Island with his Ladder Company 84. But several times a month he leads a troop of senior Girl Scouts on Staten Island.
To these men, today is more than just Friday, March 12. It is the 70th anniversary of the Girl Scouts in the United States, the organization that has become a major part of their lives through many hours of volunteer work.
They are among a growing number of busy, executive-level men who are volunteering to become Girl Scout troop leaders. They give various reasons for their decisions: the shortage of leaders, caused by the entry of more and more women into the job market; they wanted to spend more time with their daughters; if they hadn't volunteered there would have been no troop for their daughters.
''I did it because no one else would,'' said Richard Fallon, 34 years old, an executive at Instrumentation Engineering in Franklin Lakes, N.J., who leads a Brownie troop of which his daughter, Christa, 8, is a member. ''The town I live in, East Rutherford, doesn't have a good Girl Scout organization, and if I didn't do it, there would have been no troop at all for the girls.''
GIRL SCOUT TROP LEADERS: MEN WELCOME TO APPLY (Published 1982)
And then there is this:
The Men Who are Man Enough to be a Girl Scout
The Men Who are Man Enough to be a Girl Scout
Are You Man Enough to be a Girl Scout?! The Man Enough to be A Girl Scout campaign is about recognizing men who are involved in Girl Scouts. When the men in a Girl Scout’s life step up to be …
and this
Male Girl Scout Leader Explains Why His Welder’s Toolbox Is Now Filled With Glitter
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John “Doc” McFadzen is 6-foot-2, about 250 pounds and has 86 tattoos and a beard. He’s also got holes in his ears.
He might be the last guy you’d expect to be in charge of a Girl Scout troop, and while he’s not the only male who leads a girl group, McFadzen definitely stands out.
He’s one of a kind. McFadzen is part of an expansion program that seeks to bring scouting to girls in different and new cities.
McFadzen runs Daisy Girl Troop 6825. The group formed earlier this year and is made up of 6- and 7-year-olds.
Male Girl Scout Leader Explains Why His Welder's Toolbox Is Now Filled With Glitter
"He helps us learn new things and and also learn new games," says scout Sofia Gomez.
awesome. I love a good twist.
OP is the real villain!
Brainonska511
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This. Not everyone has some ulterior motive for volunteering.
brianmanahan
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yeah those guys are a shady bunch
side note: "the shady bunch" would be a good name for a tv show or something
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