Week 24 Bartons have arrived at Newegg!

[BDSM]

MatthewF01.. hey there.. I'm pretty sure that you need to mak eyour chip 133 mhz default. I can however offer no help of how to go about it cuz I've never done it myself. But there are probably guides somewhere out there that will tell ya.

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Mavrick007
I got a couple of AQXEA 0323WPDW cpu a week ago from Newegg and I haven't had time to try mine out yet but I can't wait.
One is for my new 8rda3+ and the other is for my friend's NF7-S.

Edit: What were your guys chips originally made as before being marked as 2500+'s? Mine was a 2800+.
Check the 8th and 9th digit on the second string of characters after the AXDA string and it should tell you what the chip was originally tested to be.

Many people will argue that that's just a theory, and there's no proof that that's what those digits mean. Sounds logical to me... but again... some people WILL argue it =)

from what ive read one major reason it CANT be true is the fact that if it were, some Thoroughbred models started life in the fab as Barton cores :beer:

 

[Hankysmoo]

Here is what I got from Newegg.
AXDA2500DKV4D Y857888250251
AQXEA 0327UPJW Made in malaysia

Does that mean my chip was orginally a 2500+?
On stock HSF w/ Arctic Silver 1 i can only get about 2150mhz at default voltage with my new Shuttle AN35N.
My Idle Temps are about 41 degrees C and under load it gets to about 52 degrees C. Did I just get a bad chip?

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: Hankysmoo
Here is what I got from Newegg.
AXDA2500DKV4D Y857888250251
AQXEA 0327UPJW Made in malaysia

Does that mean my chip was orginally a 2500+?
On stock HSF w/ Arctic Silver 1 i can only get about 2150mhz at default voltage with my new Shuttle AN35N.
My Idle Temps are about 41 degrees C and under load it gets to about 52 degrees C. Did I just get a bad chip?

crank up the voltage; if it still cant OC well, THEN you got a bad chip

 

[Mavrick007]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Mavrick007
I got a couple of AQXEA 0323WPDW cpu a week ago from Newegg and I haven't had time to try mine out yet but I can't wait.
One is for my new 8rda3+ and the other is for my friend's NF7-S.

Edit: What were your guys chips originally made as before being marked as 2500+'s? Mine was a 2800+.
Check the 8th and 9th digit on the second string of characters after the AXDA string and it should tell you what the chip was originally tested to be.

Many people will argue that that's just a theory, and there's no proof that that's what those digits mean. Sounds logical to me... but again... some people WILL argue it =)

Heh True, some people just like to argue too

It's all a crapshoot and you are not guaranteed anything, but it is something that gives more support for being a decent overclocker,
and it makes me not give up on trying to get the most out of the chip.

 

[Ziptar]

I ordered a pair of 2500 retails last week and got week 27. They are both happily running 16 * 133 in my Tiger MP at stock voltage. No chip or motherboard modding required..

 

[BDSM]

Hankysmoo.. No you did not get a bad chip. You need a good heatsink and a good fan AND some AS3 or better.

With that you could get around 7 C lower temps. Most chips do in my experience don't like 50+ temps much. Especially not when heavily overclocked.

 

[leeperpsu]

hey khyron i'm running 2.0v through my barton...and yes i think everyone on this forum has told me i'm crazy more than once.

 

[dynasty]

Why does it matter what week the processor is? I just got my barton 2500 in on Tuesday what do you think that would make it? I forgot to copy down the lettering. Also do some weeks perform better than others? What would make them do that? And I can only get mine to go to 2.14ghz stable on all games. I'm running Crucial 512mb pc2700 ram. Do you think it could be my ram? I have an asus a7n8x deluxe mobo. I'm thinking about getting a stick of corsair 512mb xms series ram. What do you think I could oc mine at with that ram? Thanks

 

[Mavrick007]

Originally posted by: dynasty
Why does it matter what week the processor is? I just got my barton 2500 in on Tuesday what do you think that would make it? I forgot to copy down the lettering. Also do some weeks perform better than others? What would make them do that? And I can only get mine to go to 2.14ghz stable on all games. I'm running Crucial 512mb pc2700 ram. Do you think it could be my ram? I have an asus a7n8x deluxe mobo. I'm thinking about getting a stick of corsair 512mb xms series ram. What do you think I could oc mine at with that ram? Thanks

The concensus is that the later in the process, the better refinement that the fabs have and therefore have a better chance to overclock
since chances are that they are faster chips than they are sold for anyway.

If you just got your barton, it depends on where you got it for one thing cause they might have older stock, but most people lately have been getting week 23, 24, 27, or later from newegg.

Some weeks will not necessarily perform better than others, it is just a chance that some do perform better, but the later it is, the better chance usually for an overclock.

If you are getting 2.14, it could be your ram, your multiplyer, your heatsink, or even your motherboard that is limiting you.
I would say that if you are using pc2700 ram, then you could try raising your multiplyer and lowering your front side bus so that you can get a higher overclock and try a better heatsink then you might be able to get it higher, or it could be other reasons that are limiting you.

If you get new ram, try to get at least pc3200 ram and then you should be able to take it to 400fsb or higher but you will have to take off the pc2700 ram, otherwise you might as well just get some more pc2700 ram cause it will be your slowest stick and will limit the speed of the newer and faster stick.

 

[stuman74]

I just got my retail version 2500+ barton from Newegg today (7/31). It is a week 24. I will see how it runs later tonight.

 

[t4t3r]

I got mine yesterday and it is a week 27. I already know it will run at 3200+ (11x200), but have not gotten a chance to OC any more. I will burn it in a few more days then start tweaking.

 

[stuman74]

t4t3r,

Was yours the retail or oem version?

 

[BuckNaked]

I also received a week 27 from Newegg, it was the retail version that was priced at $83 last week... Its turning out to be a so-so chip.... I am running it at 200 x 11 for 2.2 Ghz, but I have to bump it to 1.75v to run prime 95 for 24 hours.....

 

[ishveir]

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
I also received a week 27 from Newegg, it was the retail version that was priced at $83 last week... Its turning out to be a so-so chip.... I am running it at 200 x 11 for 2.2 Ghz, but I have to bump it to 1.75v to run prime 95 for 24 hours.....

ok just wanted to know what are you guys referring to?
is it barton XP2000+ or what
am interested in anything that beats a P4 2.4
let me know thanks

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: ishveir

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
I also received a week 27 from Newegg, it was the retail version that was priced at $83 last week... Its turning out to be a so-so chip.... I am running it at 200 x 11 for 2.2 Ghz, but I have to bump it to 1.75v to run prime 95 for 24 hours.....

ok just wanted to know what are you guys referring to?
is it barton XP2000+ or what
am interested in anything that beats a P4 2.4
let me know thanks

Why the Athlon 2500+, with Barton core of course! They matched the P4 L2 cache with 512KB..


btw guys, i cut open that L12 bridge, and ive been running in 400fsb for a good few days now! Give it a shot if youre stuck on low FSB like I was!
<--now a believer

 

[t4t3r]

Stu:
mine was retail.

 

[Tab]

Makes me really want to upgrade my current rig. However, with Half-Life 2 deylayed I wouldnt really upgrading for anything

Anyway this was my upgrade plan

Soltek FRN-75 to A7N8X Deluxe
Cruical PC2700 512MB to ??? (Guess we have to wait and see how this would overclock or keep it )
Radeon 8500 64MB to Radeon 9600 Pro or GeForce FX 5700
1700+ to 2500+ Barton
40GB WD to 80 Segate 7200.8 SATA

 

[t4t3r]

my 2500+ is currently running as a 3200+. i'll be doing some stress testing tonight if i have time. temps went up about 2-3 degrees.

 

[stuman74]

So I installed my barton 2500+ into my MSI KT3Ultra2 mobo. I also had PC2100 ram. When I boot, it says it's an XP1900+ and my FSB is still at 133. If I bump the FSB up to 166, I lock before POST because I think my ram is trying to run at that speed. Am I screwed and hav eto buy new ram or is there a way to run the ram at 133 and the FSB at 166?

 

[Jeff7181]

So I installed my barton 2500+ into my MSI KT3Ultra2 mobo. I also had PC2100 ram. When I boot, it says it's an XP1900+ and my FSB is still at 133. If I bump the FSB up to 166, I lock before POST because I think my ram is trying to run at that speed. Am I screwed and hav eto buy new ram or is there a way to run the ram at 133 and the FSB at 166?

You can check to see if you have a RAM divider... I think most AMD motherboards use percentages, like 83, 80, 75, 66, etc.

 

[paperfist]

I just put in my 2500+ that I received from newegg today and BIOS detects it as a 3100+ (I guess cause the RAM is DDR400?) everything is running fine too I'd put it back to stock settings but I haven't found what the default settings are yet...

 

[stuman74]

I can't find any kind of ram divider settings in my bios. I think I checked all of the sections.

I usually use Crucial ram which has been very reliable, but since I am impatient and want PC2700 now, is there any issue getting PC2700 PNY brand memory from Best Buy? I've never used PNY and want to see if others have good experience with it.

 

[paperfist]

Does raising the multiplier go hand and hand with raising the voltage? If I change the multiplier from 11.0 to 11.5 I can't even get a BIOS screen, I have to reset the CMOS and start all over again. The FSB is at 200 already (DDR400 RAM).

 

[t4t3r]

paper:

stock settings for your processor would be 166 (166x2 = 333mhz) x 11 = 1833mhz. in order to find your sweet spot for ocing, you need to drop the multi. down first (maybe start at 9) and raise the fsb until it is unstable, then drop it down a few below that, etc. then start raising the multi and you will get your overclock.

once you find a good spot, you can start raising the vcore a little at a time and try for higher fsb. that processor will run at 200 with no problem i am almost positive, because at 200x11 you are already at 3200+. take your time and test each setting for stability.