Week 21 of weight loss program. Back on the diet.

jakedeez

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Week 1 Results: -19 lbs
Week 2 Results: -10 lbs
Week 3 Results: -3 lbs
Week 4 Results: -8 lbs
Week 5 Results: -6 lbs
Week 6 Results: -4 lbs
Week 7 Results: -5 lbs
Week 8 Results: -4 lbs
Week 9 Results: -6 lbs
Week 10 Results: +0.6 lbs
Week 11 Results: -4 lbs
Week 12 Results: +4 lbs
Week 13 Results: -2 lbs
Week 14 Results: -8 lbs
Week 15 Results: 0
Week 16 Results: +9 lbs
Week 17 Results: +5 lbs
Week 18 Results: +5
Week 19 Results: -9
Week 20 Results: +6
Week 20 Results: -6


As of most Recent Weigh In
Results to date: -64 lbs



Starting Weight 410 lbs

Current Weight: 346 lbs


Guide Front Page

Page One

Programs Options

Program A - C "Fasting and other diet options"

Program D & E "Keeping Weight Off"

How Much Food I get

Protien Powder Nutritional Info

Vitamins

Pictures of me from the start to now:


November 24th (Two days before Diet Began)

November 24th (Two days before Diet Began)

December 8, 2005

December 27, 2005

January 5, 2006

January 24, 2006

March 1, 2006 (1 of 3)

March 1, 2006 (2 of 3)

March 1, 2006 (3 of 3) NEW PANTS!!!
 

jakedeez

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Background and Info on diet:

Well, I responded to a different post about someone going on an excersize program for the holidays, but I thought I would start my own thread about what I am doing. I am sure plenty of people will just respond and call me a fat ass, but I felt like if I was posting progress then it would help me stick to it, and hopefully I would get some moral support from some ATOTers ;)

I am about 6'1" tall. My weight at the begining of the program was 410 lbs.

I have lost weight before, going from 340 to around 250, but gained it back. Also more recently from 350 to about 310. Then gaining up to 410.

I started this program on 11/25/05.

The diet includes:

5 protien packets per day (aprox 100 calories each)
5 servings of dairy a day (1 cup skim mike or nonfat yougart, or 2/3 cup nonfat cottage cheese.)
2-3 Bullion cubs (for sodium)
3 TBS of flax seed per day (110 calories of essential fatty acids)
Multivitmans
Folic Acid Tablets
Postassium Tablets
At least 1 gallon of water per day
3-4 Cans of veggies (like kale)


I have stuck to the diet very well, breaking it only once (with apporval of the people tha trun the program after two weeks for 1 calzone)

Also after the 2nd week they said I could add dill pickels (10 per day) and for the first few days I had more like 20 (although that is only about 100 extra calories)

Also there are weekly doctor visits for blood pressure, ekgs, weigh ins, and check ups.

Additionally there are "educational groups" which I have not yet attended.

 

jakedeez

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
That diet is everything you eat in a day? Where is the food?


No food, thats the point. (althought I have eaten a number of dill pickles in the last few days.
 

FoBoT

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holy crap, that is better than celebrity fit club!

good for you! you can do it!

and pickles are a great snack
 

reverend boltron

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Keep it up man, seriously, that is FREAKING awesome! What is your goal? Also you should go to those meetings man, they'll only help you more!!!
 

Wapp

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grats? Do you plan on keeping the weight off once you drop it? Are you exercising at all? How old are you?
 

jakedeez

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jakedeez
I am about 6'1" tall. My weight at the begining of the program was 410 lbs.

Jesus Hairy Christ

- M4H


Yeah well... :D

This is really an alternative to Gastric Bypass, I really didn't want to do that...
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
That diet is everything you eat in a day? Where is the food?
It seems like they are skipping the food and using the nutritional equivalent of food.

My question is, how reasonable is that diet long term? I mean, do they have a plan for transitioning you back to a food-based diet? If they don't, I can't see you following this for long after the program.
 

jakedeez

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Originally posted by: Wapp
grats? Do you plan on keeping the weight off once you drop it? Are you exercising at all? How old are you?


I plan on keeping the weight off, but I am not really thinking about that because I feel like I need to lose it first.

I haven't started exercising yet, but I signed up for the gym yesterday and will start working with a trainer too on Thursday (tommorrow)

I am 26

As for my goal, I am thinking 225-230
 

jakedeez

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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: new2AMD
That diet is everything you eat in a day? Where is the food?
It seems like they are skipping the food and using the nutritional equivalent of food.

My question is, how reasonable is that diet long term? I mean, do they have a plan for transitioning you back to a food-based diet? If they don't, I can't see you following this for long after the program.

The maximum amount of time you can be on the "formula" diet is 4 months at a time, and then yes there is a transition and other programs they do to reintroduce food. When I get home I will scan some of the info and post it.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: jakedeez
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jakedeez
I am about 6'1" tall. My weight at the begining of the program was 410 lbs.

Jesus Hairy Christ

- M4H


Yeah well... :D

This is really an alternative to Gastric Bypass, I really didn't want to do that...

my wife is ready to try the bypass surgery, but a friend of ours died from it and we have young kids, so i don't really see that as an option
 

MrChad

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Nice job on your progress, but is this type of diet healthy and sustainable? Most of the literature I've read states that healthy sustainable weight loss should be no more than 2 pounds per week.
 

Chunkee

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seems like there is too much sodium in there..... the cubes and the pickles (brine) hmmm...

jC
 

Legend

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Once you lose it, you need to switch over to a healthier permanent diet. A balance of meats, fruits, vegetables, nuts, fish, etc. And you need to lift some weights because you're going to lose some serious muscle doing what you're doing. Which means a lower metabolism. If you do this, you'll lose weight, but if you go back to your old diet, you will gain weight even faster.
 

jakedeez

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Nice job on your progress, but is this type of diet healthy and sustainable? Most of the literature I've read states that healthy sustainable weight loss should be no more than 2 pounds per week.

Normally I think your right, and long term it can't be done, but for this 4 month period (in which they say I can expect to lose up to 100 lbs) it should be okay. Besides, at my size I can lose 2 lbs by taking a dump. ;) (well when I was eating food anyway)

Originally posted by: Chunkee
seems like there is too much sodium in there..... the cubes and the pickles (brine) hmmm...

jC


Yeah, your right, I need to cut down on the pickles.


Originally posted by: Legend
Once you lose it, you need to switch over to a healthier permanent diet. A balance of meats, fruits, vegetables, nuts, fish, etc. And you need to lift some weights because you're going to lose some serious muscle doing what you're doing. Which means a lower metabolism. If you do this, you'll lose weight, but if you go back to your old diet, you will gain weight even faster.


I agree


Originally posted by: Albis
good job and keep it up!

Thanks man!
 

Bryophyte

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Wow! Great progress so far! I know someone who went through gastric bypass surgery and you're losing weight faster than she did. The choice is either extreme physical pain and exhaustion or a strong will to succeed. She doesn't have *any* willpower or self-control, so she was stuck with the surgery (that or die very early.)
 

brxndxn

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I don't like the idea of 'crash diets' like this.. The human body slows the metabolism down and causes food to be retained longer when it is starved. Then, when the food starts coming, it uses it to quickly start rebuilding 'storage'.

The best way to lose weight is a small amount over a long period of time.. like.. the rest of your life. If you got up to 410 by just eating whatever you felt, you'll either NEVER be able to eat like that again - or you'll die in 10 years and weigh a million pounds.

Your target weight * 10 = best long term diet plans in terms of calories.. You wanna weigh 220.. eat 2200 calories/day and get exercise - lots of exercise. If you wanna feel like sh1t for a few months, lose a ton of weight, and then gain it all back, do a crash diet.

I don't claim to be an expert.. but this sh!t just seems to be obvious. And every goddamn overweight person wants some sort of special program for 'physically fit' to happen quickly.

I hate to crap on the weight loss.. but every time you lost weight, you gained it back - and then some. Instead of sticking to this for a couple months, you need to plan for a lifetime. Losing weight isn't as easy as just going without food.. Go without food for 10 days and drink water - and you'd lose lots of weight in that 10 days.. but then in the next one day, you could eat 10,000 calories and still feel hungry. The human body is made for an environment where food is scarce - it's up to you to discipline yourself to treat it that way for a lifetime.

IMO, just get use to the 'slightly hungry' feeling and being 'half full' after every meal and you'd probby do fine. Oh ya.. stay the hell away from processed foods and snacks..

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I got a brother and dad who have been struggling with weight loss for years now - and it seems they've finally realized that losing weight is a lifetime commitment and not something that happens in two months.

Even if you lose a ton of weight on this program, you HAVE to see a dietician and plan a way to keep it off. If you've survived the last 4 months on a single pickle per day and then suddenly eat a cheeseburger, your body will somehow figure out a way to gain 10lbs back from that single cheeseburger.

 

sourceninja

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If you are going to work out at a gym you might ask them about increasing your calorie intake. People on diets like that tend to do more harm then good working out because they just dont have enough food to produce the energy they need to keep going and to repair and build up the muscles.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't like the idea of 'crash diets' like this.. The human body slows the metabolism down and causes food to be retained longer when it is starved. Then, when the food starts coming, it uses it to quickly start rebuilding 'storage'.

The best way to lose weight is a small amount over a long period of time.. like.. the rest of your life. If you got up to 410 by just eating whatever you felt, you'll either NEVER be able to eat like that again - or you'll die in 10 years and weigh a million pounds.

Your target weight * 10 = best long term diet plans in terms of calories.. You wanna weigh 220.. eat 2200 calories/day and get exercise - lots of exercise. If you wanna feel like sh1t for a few months, lose a ton of weight, and then gain it all back, do a crash diet.

I don't claim to be an expert.. but this sh!t just seems to be obvious. And every goddamn overweight person wants some sort of special program for 'physically fit' to happen quickly.

I hate to crap on the weight loss.. but every time you lost weight, you gained it back - and then some. Instead of sticking to this for a couple months, you need to plan for a lifetime. Losing weight isn't as easy as just going without food.. Go without food for 10 days and drink water - and you'd lose lots of weight in that 10 days.. but then in the next one day, you could eat 10,000 calories and still feel hungry. The human body is made for an environment where food is scarce - it's up to you to discipline yourself to treat it that way for a lifetime.

IMO, just get use to the 'slightly hungry' feeling and being 'half full' after every meal and you'd probby do fine. Oh ya.. stay the hell away from processed foods and snacks..

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I got a brother and dad who have been struggling with weight loss for years now - and it seems they've finally realized that losing weight is a lifetime commitment and not something that happens in two months.

Even if you lose a ton of weight on this program, you HAVE to see a dietician and plan a way to keep it off. If you've survived the last 4 months on a single pickle per day and then suddenly eat a cheeseburger, your body will somehow figure out a way to gain 10lbs back from that single cheeseburger.

Guess you missed the part where he just signed up for a gym and this University program does implement a switch back to food.

Good job OP and stick with it.