WEASEL ALERT - UN "OIL-FOR-FOOLS" SCAM - Audits show rampant Bilking

[Infohawk]

Csg, are you reporting on the US corruption too in this situation? Or just the straight-up partisan angle as usual?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Norm Coleman: Why I'm standing by my call for Annan to resign

Ouch.

CsG

 

[SuperTool]

:roll:
Who's Norm Coleman?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Csg, are you reporting on the US corruption too in this situation? Or just the straight-up partisan angle as usual?

I think that the US portion of the corruption would not have existed without the original weaseling that existed at the UN.

Had the UN fulfilled thier responsiblities, there would have been nothing from anybody.

Also, it may not have allowed Saddam to so easily outlasted the actual embargo which increased his contempt of the santions and resolutions.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Csg, are you reporting on the US corruption too in this situation? Or just the straight-up partisan angle as usual?

I think that the US portion of the corruption would not have existed without the original weaseling that existed at the UN.

Had the UN fulfilled thier responsiblities, there would have been nothing from anybody.

Also, it may not have allowed Saddam to so easily outlasted the actual embargo which increased his contempt of the santions and resolutions.

And the fact that he no longer had WMD's but Iraq was still under sanctions and resolutions had nothing to do with his contempt fo them? :roll:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Csg, are you reporting on the US corruption too in this situation? Or just the straight-up partisan angle as usual?

I think that the US portion of the corruption would not have existed without the original weaseling that existed at the UN.

Had the UN fulfilled thier responsiblities, there would have been nothing from anybody.

Also, it may not have allowed Saddam to so easily outlasted the actual embargo which increased his contempt of the santions and resolutions.

And the fact that he no longer had WMD's but Iraq was still under sanctions and resolutions had nothing to do with his contempt fo them? :roll:

Again, Saddam never fulfilled the cease-fire agreement he agreed to and continually defied the UN's mandates resulting from his stone-walling. Meh, keep making excuses for him if you wish...

CsG

 

[DealMonkey]

Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

:thumbsup:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

An inspector general's report said the U.S.-led administration that ran Iraq until June 2004 is unable to account for the funds.

"Severe inefficiencies and poor management" by the Coalition Provisional Authority has left auditors with no guarantee the money was properly used," the report said.

No one is stating that the funds were stolen of siphoned off. Just that they can not account for where they went. Typical goverment handling of a chunk of money without proper oversight.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

An inspector general's report said the U.S.-led administration that ran Iraq until June 2004 is unable to account for the funds.

"Severe inefficiencies and poor management" by the Coalition Provisional Authority has left auditors with no guarantee the money was properly used," the report said.

No one is stating that the funds were stolen of siphoned off. Just that they can not account for where they went. Typical goverment handling of a chunk of money without proper oversight.

Good one. I would love to see a Walmart clerk tell his manager that he can't account for $50, but that noone is saying it was stolen or siphoned off.
But $50 from every American taxpayer missing and unaccounted for doesn't mean anything.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

I agree, there needs to be accountability for the money we are spending to rebuild Iraq, however this thread is about the oil-for-fools scam as a UN program. There is another thread about the missing reconstruction monies - infact I believe there was one a couple months ago too. Just because I post about the UN fiasco does not mean I do not care about the reconstruction money or am not concerned about it so please do not try to come in here and try the "but the US is bad" "duhversion" - you are better than that....or so I thought...

CsG

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

I agree, there needs to be accountability for the money we are spending to rebuild Iraq, however this thread is about the oil-for-fools scam as a UN program. There is another thread about the missing reconstruction monies - infact I believe there was one a couple months ago too. Just because I post about the UN fiasco does not mean I do not care about the reconstruction money or am not concerned about it so please do not try to come in here and try the "but the US is bad" "duhversion" - you are better than that....or so I thought...

CsG

neither one of the situations are good.
and im really weirded out by the "one or the other" attitude that pundits seem to be taking on this issue.
right-wing pundits seem to aim only at the UN and the left-wing counterparts are glazing over this one to get to the 9 billion one.
now, personally, i would like to solve both issues. but if i had to choose, i think id go with the 9 billion dollar exclusivly taken from the US.
i recognize that they are both legitimate but the fact that it is so much, so quickly, with money that is still basically waiting to be snatched up...makes me want that one sorted out right away.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

I agree, there needs to be accountability for the money we are spending to rebuild Iraq, however this thread is about the oil-for-fools scam as a UN program. There is another thread about the missing reconstruction monies - infact I believe there was one a couple months ago too. Just because I post about the UN fiasco does not mean I do not care about the reconstruction money or am not concerned about it so please do not try to come in here and try the "but the US is bad" "duhversion" - you are better than that....or so I thought...

CsG

It's not a "duhversion" Cad, it's a serious credibility issue. How can you feign so much indignation with the UN when we're guilty of the same thing, if not worse. It's only a "duhversion" in your mind because you're so anxious to "get" the UN -- it's practically a full-time job with the conservative right these days. Hell, just glance @ one of Jerome's threads around here.

Let those without sin cast the first stone. Isn't that was Jeebus said?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Where's the $9Billion Cad, where?

And for the record, I care a whole hell of a lot more about this chunk of change than whatever the UN weasels got away with, because this is MY TAXDOLLARS g-dammit! I'm outraged at the lack of outrage!!

I agree, there needs to be accountability for the money we are spending to rebuild Iraq, however this thread is about the oil-for-fools scam as a UN program. There is another thread about the missing reconstruction monies - infact I believe there was one a couple months ago too. Just because I post about the UN fiasco does not mean I do not care about the reconstruction money or am not concerned about it so please do not try to come in here and try the "but the US is bad" "duhversion" - you are better than that....or so I thought...

CsG

It's not a "duhversion" Cad, it's a serious credibility issue. How can you feign so much indignation with the UN when we're guilty of the same thing, if not worse. It's only a "duhversion" in your mind because you're so anxious to "get" the UN -- it's practically a full-time job with the conservative right these days. Hell, just glance @ one of Jerome's threads around here.

Let those without sin cast the first stone. Isn't that was Jeebus said?

I'm not feigning "indignation" DM. There are other threads on the issue you brought up and they are only similar due to them being about Iraq and money. The Oil-for-fools scam and the UN's ineptness are being discussed here so please take your feigned outrage "duhversion" elsewhere.

Again, you are incorrect to ASSume I don't care about the unaccounted for tax-payer money.

CsG

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'm not feigning "indignation" DM. There are other threads on the issue you brought up and they are only similar due to them being about Iraq and money. The Oil-for-fools scam and the UN's ineptness are being discussed here so please take your feigned outrage "duhversion" elsewhere.

Again, you are incorrect to ASSume I don't care about the unaccounted for tax-payer money.

CsG

Right, you expect us to discuss the UN scandal in a complete vaccuum of facts and totally out of context? How typical. I wonder why you'd want to frame the topic in that way? Hmmm?

(By the way, I think everyone here knows the answer to that question.)

(A) U.S.-sanctioned side-sales of Iraqi oil, and (B) U.S. $9 Billion for Iraq unaccounted for (an equal if not larger scandal).

Both of these points are entirely relevant to this thread because it shows just how hypocritical the UN critics really are. You're sitting there lambasting the UN for the same sort of irresponsible behavior that WE are guilty of.

If that's not the textbook definition of hypocrisy, I don't know what is.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

"Letterbox" corruption? "Geneva opens inquiry into oil-for-food scandal"

CsG

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

New bank accounts discovered belonging to Benon Sevan.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/50085.htm

Investigators have discovered overseas bank accounts belonging to disgraced U.N. oil-for-food program head Benon Sevan that could unlock the mystery over whether he profited from dirty deals with Saddam Hussein, The Post has learned. Sources close to the numerous probes of the giant U.N. scandal revealed that investigators have recently discovered that Sevan, who lives in New York, has accounts in Switzerland, Turkey and Cyprus ? countries with notoriously tight bank secrecy laws.

Massive behind-the-scenes efforts are under way by investigative agencies to gain access to the records, according to officials with two separate agencies involved in the U.N. probe.