Weaning the Family from AOL

GingerSynapse

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Almost everyone in my family is an AOL user. Husband. In-laws. Mom. Dad. Siblings. Cousins even.

I hate AOL.

Any suggestions of how I can coax these people to abandon AOL and get a real ISP with a real browser?
 

gooneygoon

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I personally do not use AOL. Used to, about 5-6 years ago. Version 2.5.

Despite all the advanced users that you will find here, AOL does serve it's purpose.

If you family likes it, let them be.
 

notfred

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Why do you care if they use AOL, it's not like YOU have to use AOL. Maybe they like AOL and don't want to switch?
 

gar598

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ok,

why don't u just make a dun account off of your aol account so you don't have to use the aol software :)
 

GingerSynapse

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I am not just a busybody. I care because, since AOL is my household ISP, I have to use a slow-as-molasses anonymizer proxy to log onto AnandTech. There are lots of other reasons why I care, but that is reason number one.
 

Squisher

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This will be tough. Probably the easiest way would be to explain to them in a non-confrontational way why other ISPs would be better.

A large initial investment in a computer without the evil software in it and hooked to a connection that is far faster and more stable so that they can see firsthand how things look away from the dark side might be your only way. Once you convince one, you can start to build an army.
 

djheater

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Use their ignorance as your tool.

What I did was brag about my fast connection in way that encouraged them to desire it for themselves... then I agreed to arange and be present for the install... "So they wouldn't have to worry about it" and I could "make sure everything works"

A couple of uninstalls later they were AOL free...

"Oh yeah... sorry forgot to mention you don't use AOL with broadband... No big deal I've already set up your favorites intsalled AIM and configured e-mail for you...."

Yeah it's a lot of work on my part but hey this way I don't get stuck on it when I go there....
 

Gnurb

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Originally posted by: gar598
ok,

why don't u just make a dun account off of your aol account so you don't have to use the aol software :)

I remember trying to do this awhile ago, and no one had figured out how to stay on for longer then a couple minutes. Any progress since then?
 

GingerSynapse

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Originally posted by: djheater
Use their ignorance as your tool.

What I did was brag about my fast connection in way that encouraged them to desire it for themselves... then I agreed to arange and be present for the install... "So they wouldn't have to worry about it" and I could "make sure everything works"

A couple of uninstalls later they were AOL free...

"Oh yeah... sorry forgot to mention you don't use AOL with broadband... No big deal I've already set up your favorites intsalled AIM and configured e-mail for you...."

Yeah it's a lot of work on my part but hey this way I don't get stuck on it when I go there....
Thanks! Good advice. I would love to be able to convince 'em to get cable internet service!

If I use their ignorance as my tool, as you suggest, I am gonna need a mighty big toolbox. :D
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: djheater
Use their ignorance as your tool.

What I did was brag about my fast connection in way that encouraged them to desire it for themselves... then I agreed to arange and be present for the install... "So they wouldn't have to worry about it" and I could "make sure everything works"

A couple of uninstalls later they were AOL free...

"Oh yeah... sorry forgot to mention you don't use AOL with broadband... No big deal I've already set up your favorites intsalled AIM and configured e-mail for you...."

Yeah it's a lot of work on my part but hey this way I don't get stuck on it when I go there....
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Thanks! Good advice. I would love to be able to convince 'em to get cable internet service!

If I use their ignorance as my tool, as you suggest, I am gonna need a mighty big toolbox.

I have a better plan...
what you need:

potato x1
really big steak knife x1
red paint x1

draw dead face on potato
stick knife into "face"
write AOL on the knife
tell family: this is what AOL is going to do to you
show them cable ad
:)
 

gar598

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I remember trying to do this awhile ago, and no one had figured out how to stay on for longer then a couple minutes. Any progress since then?

I don't have aol so I can;t quite tell you but I KNOW it can be done just use google.
 

CrazyDe1

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Reasons not to use AOL:

no outgoing smtp server...that means my school email account doens't work...I've searched forever, talked to multiple pepole about this, they don't have a FRIGGIN OUTGOING MAIL SERVER unelss you use their software...which isn't an option
slower than sh1t...I bought my own msn dialup account to use at my parents house because i was sick of using AOL
the software lags games...I'm a huge warcraft2 fan and I play on bnet...AOL connection lags to sh1t...it also slows down the game on their 400mhz machine.
you get banned from anandtech....took me awhile to figure out why I couldn't post at home with my account..I figured my account was banned...then I realized they just blocked AOL...


AOL users piss me off becuase when I had cable they would always be the ones lagging bnet games...everytime if they lagged I'd be like get off AOL...and they'd be like how'd u know I use AOL
Whats worse is most don't know the difference between AOL and the internet..it used to be AOL had its own content...but now most keywords you go to go straight to the internet.
How to convince people to switch:

Find an ISP, it'll probably be 19.99 a month, show them AOL's price...add up the savings over the course of a year...show them how much AOL blows. The worst is AOL encourages you to use their own browser...its IE but its run from AOL and looks like crap and has no functionality. So when you surf the internet you have to use IE and the AOL software. Show them how much processor time and memory the AOL software takes up...then show how much resources are taken up for DUN. Finally, go d/l a song and show them how much slower AOL is....

The only ISP that might be worse is ATTBI...but thast not cuase of the internet..thats cuase of terrible service and outages...

The only version I was ever remotely happy with was AOL 2.5...since then AOL has gone to sh1t
 

eleutheria

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I have the exact same problem, Ginger. It used to be worse, though. My family used to have only an old, crappy Macintosh with AOL. Now at least the Mac is gone!
 

Freejack2

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How do you wean a baby from it's mother's breast. You stop giving it the breast and you give them a pacifier.
You can do the same when weaning your family from AOL.
Fortunately AOL is nowhere near as good as a breast, so you can easily wean your family from Aol, with... BROADBAND!
Sign em up for a cable modem or DSL, and they'll never want to go back to snail slow Aol.
 

GingerSynapse

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I think they will love broadband, but they scream and holler about the cost.

It's a bummer to be a 21st-century girl in a house full of Neanderthals scrawling on cave walls. ;)
 

FordFreak

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1


The only ISP that might be worse is ATTBI...but thast not cuase of the internet..thats cuase of terrible service and outages...

I recently went from AOHell to ATTBI and I haven't had any problems yet.
 

RSI

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Originally posted by: GingerSynapse
I think they will love broadband, but they scream and holler about the cost.

It's a bummer to be a 21st-century girl in a house full of Neanderthals scrawling on cave walls. ;)
lmao!

I remember using AOL, so many years ago... It was fine when I was 11. I got bored with it after a couple months of pretending to be people I wasn't and screwing with people's minds and decided to get a real ISP. :)
 

CrazyDe1

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It was nice when it was excite@home...nice and fast, no outages....then they switch us over to ATTBI...well..it took most people 5 days at the most in our area to get service backup. Our internet was down for 20 days. I spent over 14 hours on hold waiting for tech support. After the 3rd time calling they sent a tech out who pinged yahoo and told us our account had to be rebuilt and would take a week. I wasn't satisfied so I called them up again the next day and they said it didn't have to be rebuilt and that guy was an idiot. So they told me to wait another 3 days. I call up the next day again after scouring the internet and ask to speak to a lvl 2 tech. This time, they're like hangon, transfer me and I get diconnected. Again, I wait on hold for 2 hours, finally get to a lvl 2 tech who opens up a ticket # and tells me to call back. Next day, another 2 hours on hold, finally get to lvl 2 tech, they can't find the ticket # so they open up another one and say someone will call me back within hte next hour. 2 days pass, I call up each day, and no one calls. Finally, on the 3rd daya lvl 2 tech calls up, leads me through the BS everyone else has been leading me through, power cycling the modem, renewing the IP, all that BS. Then he tells me to go to a webpage, I go there, logon, then he sends a signal to my modem...it works. He fixes the problem in 10 minutes. Now my question is, why couldn't they just have sent me to a lvl 2 tech who did that in the first place? Instead of giving me the runaround, making me powercycle my modem 30 times, staying on hold for 14 hours.

So then its up and running, but we can't get speeds above 20KB/s ever...usually its even slower than that. So we call them up again, they come out and decide something is wrong with the dslam. They open up another ticket #...so we go for about a month of slowass cable service and finally its fixed. The problem is every few days it goes down for an hour or so. We looked into getting ATTBI for businesses, DSL isn't an option since we're not in the area, and theres no other friggin cable providers in the area. Oh yeah, and every once in awhile my ping times will shoot real high while gaming...as in once every 2 hours or so. Anyways, I HATE ATTBI...if there was anything else available I'd switch it right away. Hell, we even looked into satellite internet...but that was 70 bucks for less bandwidth.
 

chiwawa626

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do it gradualy, get a new isp, reduce aol to byoa then reduce it to webmail only, then get rid of it totaly.. :)...
 

JellyBaby

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Show them how, with a decent email client, they can see all of the mail they've received, not just the last 7 days. Show them how they can filter spam instead of being a helpless victim of it. Show them how they can easily search through sent and received mail while offline.

Show them how they can turn off advertisements. Show them much of AOL's "content" is really stuff sitting out on the 'net. Show them how much faster stuff downloads under real ISP connections.

Show them you love them.