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Originally posted by: paulandreas
i remember a canadian appeared on jeremy clarkeson's (aka top gear presenter in UK) talkshow once. clarkeson asked what it was like living in a country bordering america, and he said 'its kind of like living next to a drunk family, who have a gun obsession. you kind of wave to them anytime you see them and hope they dont come over'. pretty funnay.😉

It's Clarkson, without the e 🙂
 
Originally posted by: RadioHead84
Screw this, i am going to Cananda....

I just watch bowling for columbine...

and our government is bent on seeing us all killed....

can i have your stuff?
 
I want a federal law that mandates school be open all year long. Then at least, ATOT won't get flooded with kiddies during the summertime.
 
Drunk driving kills double the people yearly than death with a gun. Why has it become "normal" and acceptable that for every few that arrive home alive, others will not? It is even worse because guns are MEANT to kill but alcohol isn't so what does that say? And how many of the death by guns were:
1) accidents while cleaning or hunting
2) police defending themselves
3) home owners shooting a lowlife
4) suicide
5) abused women fighting back

That would bring down the number probably half. In other words 4 times the amount of people die yearly in alcohol and car related manslaughter than with gun-related murders. Ban alcohol before you ban guns. But Moore won't see that happen, right?
 
Originally posted by: Ness
So if you watched "The Terminator" you'd start destroying machines left and right, huh? Because that is about as realistic as Bowling for Columbine.

BfC is filled with so many misquotings, logical fallacies, and misguided segments that believing it makes you an idiot.


We'll see who's laughing once I finish Skynet. Run. Run while you still can.


You've been warned.
 
Originally posted by: RadioHead84
Screw this, i am going to Cananda....

I just watch bowling for columbine...

and our government is bent on seeing us all killed....

It's rather humorous that Michael Moore talks in BfC about how all of the sensationalism in the media makes people afraid and paranoid, and yet his movie seems to have had exactly that effect on you.

Why? Because it's sensationalist and you don't know any better.

Edit: Unless you were kidding, in which case :beer:
 
Originally posted by: RadioHead84
Screw this, i am going to Cananda....

I just watch bowling for columbine...

and our government is bent on seeing us all killed....

2 issues:

1.) Politics & News needs to be your new home, not Off Topic

2.) We will actually wrap you up in duct tape & take you to Canada in someone's trunk if you don't have the judgement to ignore M. Moore's BS. couple more posts like this & we'll include a plastic sack for your head so it doesn't get dirty in the trunk.
 
Originally posted by: Cougar
Originally posted by: Ness
So if you watched "The Terminator" you'd start destroying machines left and right, huh? Because that is about as realistic as Bowling for Columbine.

BfC is filled with so many misquotings, logical fallacies, and misguided segments that believing it makes you an idiot.


We'll see who's laughing once I finish Skynet. Run. Run while you still can.


You've been warned.

Oh Fvck.

I'm moving to mars. The machines can't get me there.
 
Originally posted by: Ness
So if you watched "The Terminator" you'd start destroying machines left and right, huh? Because that is about as realistic as Bowling for Columbine.

BfC is filled with so many misquotings, logical fallacies, and misguided segments that believing it makes you an idiot.

LOL i honestly think most of you guys haven't seen the film, and are just going by what others say of it (and they have their own agenda). I'm not saying the film is 100% truthful, very few things in life are... but the msg is that guns and violence in the US are much higher than the rest of the world, including Canada which basically is the same culture as the US, and shares the same media... and the reason Moore proposed is because of the fear of blacks and black violence/crime (which the media likes to portray).

Can you refute the fact that people in the US are more paranoid in their own neighborhood and homes than anywhere else in the industrial world. That gun ownership in the US is the highest in the industrial world? That violent crimes, including murder, are the highest in the US per capita in the industrial world?

Why is that? Because the US has more guns! But why do they have more guns? Because it's easier to obtain guns... true, but Canada has their fairshare of guns too, yet the violent crime rate is MUCH lower. So he proposed that it's the disproportional number of black crimes that's shown on the media. This creates a paranoia, and more white folks pack more guns. But why all this paranoia? Because in multicultural nations, you're bound to have more violence against one another? But again look at Canada, which is MORE multicultural than the US, yet it's violent crime per capita isn't anywhere near the US. He then goes to show that this is the main difference between Canada and the US by showing how more secure Canadians feel, by showing how many people don't lock their doors, by asking Americans blacks that visit Canada how they feel when they visit to Canada, etc.

Is it a perfect film? No. There's obviously an agenda there and there's obviously some creative editing. But if you get so hooked up the faults, you're going to miss the message.
 
Good post, Hardcore. I also want to add that Canadia is a more socialist country than the US,which is very capitalistic. IMHO, the values promoted by a harder capitalism such as the one applied in the 'States is more conducive to violence than socialism. However, this isn't to say that socialism is without pitfalls; far from it, in fact.
 
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