We need more modern type fps shooters

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I'd like a first person shooter with realism as the main focus.
There is, it is called Red Orchestra. No bunny hopping, slow paced, you have know idea how many rounds you have left (unless you count the shots), etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...hestra:_Ostfront_41-45
Red Orchestra is noted for its unusual emphasis on realism and authenticity.
yeah i've heard good things about it. personally, i dont think i have the patience for that type of game.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I'd like a first person shooter with realism as the main focus.
Realism, you mean like when you die, not only do you not get the restart the mission, but you can't even play the game anymore?

;)
like that

put in another dollar and restart with a new character ... yours is dead
-might be OK for an arcade game

wth are we gonna have 'holodecks' [like ST]?
-with safety protocols, of course
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I'd like a first person shooter with realism as the main focus.
Realism, you mean like when you die, not only do you not get the restart the mission, but you can't even play the game anymore?

;)
I also would like to see a big single player game with modern warfare and realism.

Realism like Rainbow six only in Iraq fighting Sadam.
 

BFG10K

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Modern is boring. If you want modern go and join the army.

I want more zombies and nazis.
 

badkarma1399

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
Modern is boring. If you want modern go and join the army.

I want more zombies and nazis.
Dude, but i hear theres no respawn in RL. What happens if i get lag out there? I'm dead!
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: badkarma1399
Originally posted by: BFG10K
Modern is boring. If you want modern go and join the army.

I want more zombies and nazis.
Dude, but i hear theres no respawn in RL. What happens if i get lag out there? I'm dead!
every religion tells us there IS a respawn :p

:D

i want more aliens and mutants to frag
 

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Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: TehMac
Yeah, that's why I was hoping a PC BF game was in the works, but DICE seems to be working on Console games. :/
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What n00b?
Unless BF stands for something else, there already is a Battlefield game for the PC, its called Battlefield 2...

they even have a WWII, Vietnam era, and futuristic version of it as well.

and who are you calling a noob, noob?
He's saying that the BF games are very consolish.
No, he's saying that DICE should be making another PC game in the BF lineup (or next-gen BF style) but they're too busy dropping turds into the console market to work on something for us.

BTW, Call of Duty 4 looks retarded. It's the same disconnected consoly bad storyline too many bumps just for bumps sake 4gameplay from COD 2 with a reskin. If you want modern combat gems look for mods like Insurgency. That's where you find "realism" and at least dedicated people who like modern combat "simulation" in a sense.
 

Laminator

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I'm guessing when you say "modern", you mean "military". Far Cry, for example, is a modern shooter with real weapons and human targets. It's just really unrealistic.

Realistic military shooters:
- Operation Flashpoint, VBS (for the truly hardcore), Armed Assault, "Gen 2 Game", "Operation Flashpoint 2"
- Rainbow Six series and Ghost Recon series
- SWAT series
- America's Army
- Insurgency for Half-Life 2
- Battlefield 2 Realism and Point of Existence for Battlefield 2
- DC Realism for Desert Combat

Non-realistic military shooters:
- Desert Combat for Battlefield 1942
- Battlefield 2
- Joint Operations and Delta Force: Black Hawk Down series
- Soldier of Fortune series
- Full Spectrum Warrior
- Close Combat: First to Fight
- Counter-Strike series

Realistic WWII Shooters:
- Red Orchestra
- Forgotten Hope series for Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2
- Day of Defeat series

So there are plenty out there. What there HASN'T been in a while is a game like Call of Duty 4 - an unrealistic military shooter with the focus on a cinematic, single-player storyline. All of the ones we've had were either WWII, Vietnam (like Men of Valor), semi-Sci-Fi (like Far Cry or FEAR), or Sci-Fi (like Halo and Quake 4). It'll be interesting to see how this goes.
 

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
Modern is boring. If you want modern go and join the army.

I want more zombies and nazis.
I really don't like games with non-human enemies...

Except for zombies, I would love to see another Wolfenstein game.
 

Imaginer

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: TheUnk
No, we need more medievil shooters.
:D
I am sorry but the first thing that popped in my mind is a Robin Hood type game with that remark. :p But a game that is a first person view (or hell maybe a third) based on medieval combat with knights, on mounts, jousting, and archery, sieges on castles, etc would be a nice change of pace.
 

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Originally posted by: Imaginer
I am sorry but the first thing that popped in my mind is a Robin Hood type game with that remark. :p But a game that is a first person view (or hell maybe a third) based on medieval combat with knights, on mounts, jousting, and archery, sieges on castles, etc would be a nice change of pace.
You mean mount & blade except with blizzard style production values.
 

Imaginer

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Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: Imaginer
I am sorry but the first thing that popped in my mind is a Robin Hood type game with that remark. :p But a game that is a first person view (or hell maybe a third) based on medieval combat with knights, on mounts, jousting, and archery, sieges on castles, etc would be a nice change of pace.
You mean mount & blade except with blizzard style production values.
No fantasy, I do not want to see any sort of Warcraftery in this one. But give the quality that Blizzard can produce. Just leave out the WoW....
 

Modelworks

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I would like to play a fps that is based on colonial era weapons.
Muskets, cannons, bow and arrow, swords,rockets, horses, supply wagons etc.

example:
You have to hold a point from the british.
You fire your musket and miss, takes 20 secs to reload so you can either take the time to reload or switch to a knife or baynoet.
While thats going on your enemy you were shooting at can either use his musket, if he hasn't already, or charge you with his sword.

I think it would be fun to slow down gameplay.
Right now it seems fps are only trying to speed up the game and that doesn't leave alot of room for strategy.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I would like to play a fps that is based on colonial era weapons.
Muskets, cannons, bow and arrow, swords,rockets, horses, supply wagons etc.

example:
You have to hold a point from the british.
You fire your musket and miss, takes 20 secs to reload so you can either take the time to reload or switch to a knife or baynoet.
While thats going on your enemy you were shooting at can either use his musket, if he hasn't already, or charge you with his sword.

I think it would be fun to slow down gameplay.
Right now it seems fps are only trying to speed up the game and that doesn't leave alot of room for strategy.
that would be too slow, unless you were commanding a squad, then maybe it might be ok.
Actually, I'm not really sure how that would work in that setting anyway. the British would just be lined up in a row. I just can't see how this game would work.

We need more Western FPS games though, that would be about as far back as I would go for a FPS.
 

Skacer

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Originally posted by: Imaginer
No fantasy, I do not want to see any sort of Warcraftery in this one. But give the quality that Blizzard can produce. Just leave out the WoW....
Look up "Mount & Blade" sometime to understand what I was referring to :p
 

exdeath

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I've had enough of FPS. Give me a game that can rival Xenogears in story and soul shock.

"It was the hull of a colossal spacecraft..." still gives me chills.

But as long as we are going to talk about FPS, how about some co-op? I don't mean Doom or Serious Sam or Quake II or even Halo style co-op where you just add more guns and enemies and play the same tired single player game... I mean games like System Shock 2, Half-life, Resident Evil, Metroid Prime, Legend of Zelda, that are designed around co-op play from the very start.

Games that play like epic single player games with puzzles and plot,

I can totally imagine playing a Zelda or Metroid style game where two+ players have to work together to solve one of the dungeons, etc.

I'm soooooo tired of 'MULTI PLAYER SUPPORT!' == death match in 3 arena maps and game play that has no bearing on the single player game whatsoever.

Playing System Shock 2 with the multiplayer patch was soooo damn fun and burned many a weekend, and that game wasn't even really made with multiplayer in mind, but there were enough playing styles in single player mode that it worked with two or three players huddle together in the dark. Imagine if the maps themselves were designed for co-op puzzle solving from the very start...
 

BladeVenom

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There are already plenty of modern FPS. I want more old fashioned fantasy games like Hexen and Thief.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
There are already plenty of modern FPS. I want more old fashioned fantasy games like Hexen and Thief.
is there ever gonna be a Thief 4?

the last info i could find was from '04

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=56449
"Deus Ex: Invisible War was a good game with solid reviews, but not enough people bought it. We'll fix that in the future. There definitely will be a Deus Ex 3. People want another Thief, too. We'll make that series more modern, though," he said, adding, "the medieval thing's run its course," which is sure to bound to upset fans of Garrett's shadow-hopping antics.
"the medieval thing's run its course,"
:thumbsdown:
 

mrblotto

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That Project Offset is looking pretty sweet. And hell yeah, bring on some more Thief! It'd be a shame IMO if they 'modernized' Garrett...
 

DannyLove

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BF2 is a great modern warefare game. Still is despit all the whiners out there who are BF2 haters cause they probably sucked to begin with.

I'm hoping CoD4 can go beyond that, also, i have high hopes with Crysis.... so look out for that.

 

marmasatt

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GRAW isn't bad. Pretty realistic, but literally the hardest shooter I've ever played. The second one comes out soon IIRC. Myself, I like to shoot a mix of people, zombies, nazi's and demons.....and maybe a rabid dog now and again.
 

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