We must help out the terrorist financially!

tec699

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Before anyone flames me I'm not talking about giving them money so they can buy weapons to attack us and other countries. What I'd like to see is the American government giving money to countries like Iran and Afghanistan so they can build schools, highways, government buildings, parks, etc?

Only this will curb terrorist attacks in our country. Dropping bombs on little babies does nothing but stirs up the anger among young Arab men. We should be giving them a better life. Let?s take them out of the extreme poverty that they face daily and let?s make their lives more enjoyable.

I think this could work. Maybe we could have a special tax that would go to the countries that are more prone to engage in terrorist activity? Unless we do something I fear that the US will have to endure more destruction from the hands of people like Bin Laden.


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Czar

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I agree, this as the primary way and then have a good inteligence network to do militery operations against terrorist camps, but then the intel would have to be 100%
 

arsbanned

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<obligatory right-wing response> NO! WE MUST MOAB AND NUKE ZEM ALLLLLLLL KILLL THE LITTLE BASTARDS KILLLL NUKE FRYOLATE THEM YES DAT IZ IT! </obligatory right-wing repsonse>
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: tec699
Before anyone flames me I'm not talking about giving them money so they can buy weapons to attack us and other countries. What I'd like to see is the American government giving money to countries like Iran and Afghanistan so they can build schools, highways, government buildings, parks, etc?

news flash: we've given aid to afghanistan, 'built schools, highways, gov't buildings, parks, etc' - we
just needed the taliban off their perch first.

as for iran, you could have a legion of hardcore mullahs as your new friends just for proposing the idea.


Only this will curb terrorist attacks in our country. Dropping bombs on little babies does nothing but stirs up the anger among young Arab men. We should be giving them a better life. Let?s take them out of the extreme poverty that they face daily and let?s make their lives more enjoyable. :(

giving money to third world autocrats will curb terrorist attacks ? you are lodged in the wrong
decade under the haze of a wrongheaded philosophy long proven bankrupt. throwing money
at a problem is just so . . . liberal. the neocons are more effective with their gasoline.
 

Klixxer

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I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?
 

Steeplerot

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No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: steeplerot
No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.

I REALLY wish you wouldn't use Nazi remarks, not because i live in Germany atm but because of other reasons, my grandparents fled Hitler so i don't like the comparison.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Terrorists don't just want us out of their countries, they want us off the face of this planet.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: steeplerot
No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.

I REALLY wish you wouldn't use Nazi remarks, not because i live in Germany atm but because of other reasons, my grandparents fled Hitler so i don't like the comparison.

I don't see how your grandparents fleeing Hitler have anything to do with this? You seem to bring that up a lot.. Seems to me like if they were FLEEING, they weren't part of the 'blind nationalism' that he was referring to. I think you are trying to find things to be offended about.
 

hokiezilla

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Originally posted by: steeplerot
No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.


Yeah, kind of like the Neville Chamberlain-ophiles here on this board. At least you got the era correct- circa 1939.
 

Stunt

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if iraq is a 'war' on terrorism: dont wars have attacks on each others countries....
dont bother bringing up the first strike thing. we all know the US has been bombing the region for years before declaring anything.

you kill one man and his three sons want revenge, as would you in that situation.
you are right, ppl in the middle east dont like americans. not because u are americans but cuz u support isreal, bomb them and invade for no reason...

imagine the US as iraq atm, first of all would u stand for missiles launched at u every once in a while, how bout a massive country like china bputting troops throughout you r country in occupation, would u let them so that...the answer is probably not, would you go fight for your country cuz of this, probably - that is precisely why you have enemies.

just put urself in their shoes...
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Terrorists don't just want us out of their countries, they want us off the face of this planet.

...

Who started meddling with who first? Last I checked 9/11 was a RESPONSE to our meddling.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: steeplerot
No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.

I REALLY wish you wouldn't use Nazi remarks, not because i live in Germany atm but because of other reasons, my grandparents fled Hitler so i don't like the comparison.

I don't see how your grandparents fleeing Hitler have anything to do with this? You seem to bring that up a lot.. Seems to me like if they were FLEEING, they weren't part of the 'blind nationalism' that he was referring to. I think you are trying to find things to be offended about.

Because the comparison between this little bs war and the atrocities the Germans commited are not comparable and i don't like it to be some little sh!tty thing that just happened like this BS war, it is not comparable. GET IT THIS TIME? I have only said it a dozen times or so.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Terrorists don't just want us out of their countries, they want us off the face of this planet.

And why are they doing that? Could it because of the involvment in the Middle East as they have already stated?

No, of course not, they hate freedom and want everyone to die. Trust uncle George.

ONE day you will start thinking for yourself, that is five minutes before your life ends.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Terrorists don't just want us out of their countries, they want us off the face of this planet.

...

Who started meddling with who first? Last I checked 9/11 was a RESPONSE to to our meddling.


Ding, Ding, Ding, ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. Thank you for that. It's good to know that i am not the only one who sees it.

Another thing is this appeasement deal, so no matter what is right, you are just going to oppose them, well, good luck with that. I am sure that will work out just great!
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: tec699
Before anyone flames me I'm not talking about giving them money so they can buy weapons to attack us and other countries. What I'd like to see is the American government giving money to countries like Iran and Afghanistan so they can build schools, highways, government buildings, parks, etc?

news flash: we've given aid to afghanistan, 'built schools, highways, gov't buildings, parks, etc' - we
just needed the taliban off their perch first.
Then why is President Karzai still pleading for billions in aid?

Why are the Taliban and Al Qaeda still attacking and killing coalition troops in Afghanistan?

Why are warlords still ruling parts of the country?


as for iran, you could have a legion of hardcore mullahs as your new friends just for proposing the idea.
Xenophobia is easily cured:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1304573&amp;highlight_key=y&amp;keyword1=iranians



Only this will curb terrorist attacks in our country. Dropping bombs on little babies does nothing but stirs up the anger among young Arab men. We should be giving them a better life. Let?s take them out of the extreme poverty that they face daily and let?s make their lives more enjoyable. :(

giving money to third world autocrats will curb terrorist attacks ? you are lodged in the wrong
decade under the haze of a wrongheaded philosophy long proven bankrupt. throwing money
at a problem is just so . . . liberal. the neocons are more effective with their gasoline.
I agree that throwing money at the problem is not a cure. However, working with the governments of those countries to foster democracy from within via diplomatic measures will do much more good.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Iraq was responsible for that?
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Stunt
technically aren't US troops in iraq terrorists?...

Actually, Bush is no different than Bin Laden.. :roll:

The U.S. would actually be better off with Bin Laden as our leader than Bush... :roll:
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Klixxer
I think that most of you don't get it, they don't want your money and they don't want you there either, that is what these terrorists are fighting for, not against freedom, christianity or anything else, they simply don't want you there. If Europe were meddling with the leadership of the states, wouldn't you be a bit pissed too?

Here's the problem, they ARE meddling in the United States.. they are flying planes into our buildings.. the Pentagon, and they tried to get the White House... that sounds like messing with the leadership to me.. Did you forget about 9/11?

Terrorists don't just want us out of their countries, they want us off the face of this planet.

...

Who started meddling with who first? Last I checked 9/11 was a RESPONSE to our meddling.

Chicken.. Egg.. one can argue that the only reason we are meddling there is because of the terrorists to begin with.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: steeplerot
No Klixxer I think it's more like they think America's sh1t does not stink and we can do whatever we wish for whatever reasons/lies our fearful leader the tells them.
Blind nationalism wheee just like 1939!
How about an anschluss? Canada anyone? or How about Colombia? Lots of coke there perfect for washing down all the Afgani heroin while driving that big SUV on iraqi oil.

I REALLY wish you wouldn't use Nazi remarks, not because i live in Germany atm but because of other reasons, my grandparents fled Hitler so i don't like the comparison.


I really wish Hitler and Nazis wouldn't be so taboo. To learn from the past we need to talk about it. And often that means analogizing to the past. If everyone's pet taboo was hidden from discussion, we would have nothing left to talk about.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only thing we need to help the terrorist do is die!
You must invest in the military industrial complex to have such an interest in thousands of years of war. Terrorists are profoundly mentally ill to care so little for life. They didn't get that way for no reason. Treat the cause of the illness as well as the symptoms.