We Had No Domestic Attacks Under Bush; We've Had One Under Obama.

[GTaudiophile]

It will only get worse with such a weak President.

 

[Jaskalas]

Is Guiliani senile?

That would be positive thinking, I for one don't give him that much credit.

 

[Jaskalas]

It will only get worse with such a weak President.

What did the last one do that was OH SO strong? :hmm:

 

[Craig234]

That would be positive thinking, I for one don't give him that much credit.

He's pulled the same kind of thing many times before. He's what he's always been, IMO, am ethicless hack who exploits 9/11 for his own advancement, without regard for who gets hurt.

I thought it was between him and Palin for worst major figure in the 2008 election.

He's got an incredible streak of reckless lies.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It will only get worse with such a weak President.

I know, perhaps he should invade Iceland or something to show how bold he is?

 

[Arkaign]

It's a real shame that solid, intelligent, and ethical conservatives like Chuck Hagel get sidelined while freaks like Quittin' Palin and Ghouliani bask in the glow of the partisan hackery that espouses 'conservatism' when they really are just big-government neocons or hopelessly stupid about common-sense issues.

 

[sportage]

THis is why the so called terrorist are laughing their asses off at we stupid Americans.
So one guy catches his pants on fire on a plane, and we bumbling idiots
start running in circles in fear (i.e. the gov, the press, every nutcase politician).This terrorist was probably not in the terrorist loop at all, so to say, but just some wanta-bee headline making nutcase. I doubt he had any real terrorist based backing, despite what the press is reporting (as if they ever get their facts straight). This mentally ill firebug was more of a rogue nutcase, you know... like Sarah Palin, living in his own little world. But never the less, the US gov panics and runs amuck setting up new procedures that in the end will not catch the next wanta-bee terrorist anyway. The gov is going to scan your weewee at the airport to make you feel safer. They will spend billions on stuff that wouldn’t even stop your grandmother from pulling off the next airport stunt.
That roaring sound you hear is not some terrorist setting his pants on fire, it’s the real threat laughing their asses off at our bumbling attempts to fight terrorism. The problem is interior, not exterior. Before 9/11 the CIA and the FBI went at each other like dogs and cats. Constantly trying to out-do the other and NEVER co operating. Pretty much like your average dysfunctional family on reality TV. Since 9/11, nothing has really changed in that respect. And this latest incident made that all too clear. The CIA and FBI are still Jerry Springer dysfunctional and the laughing stock of terrorist everywhere. And the government, regardless of republican or democrat controlled, remains clueless to the real issue and solution. This is all too absurd. We were clueless and 9/11 happened. We will remain clueless when the next real attach takes place. And you can thank the bumbling US government security sector for missing the next true threat. If its right under their nose, they will never catch it.

 

[TehMac]

It's a real shame that solid, intelligent, and ethical conservatives like Chuck Hagel get sidelined while freaks like Quittin' Palin and Ghouliani bask in the glow of the partisan hackery that espouses 'conservatism' when they really are just big-government neocons or hopelessly stupid about common-sense issues.

Palin has been making me scratch my head recently, but I did like her at first--she actually was someone people knew and elected, but she did blow it.

Partially, it was McCain's campaign group who probably ran the most inept campaign in the history of United States politics, and partially it was because of her naivete that was exploited by journalists such as--Couric and Charlie Gibson--both idiots but abc murdered their interviews with her in it.

Tina Fey's impression didn't exactly help either. More kindly aid given to Obama by the culturally corrupt capital in Hollywood.

I find Obama amusing, bumbling, intellectually incorrect, vain and destined to bring down the whole of Liberal theology.

I'm looking forward to the utter defeat of Liberal thought.

Obama is about as liberal as Metternich, Hitler, Stalin, Marx, and all the other "intellectuals" whom academia has praised in its sickly history.


Don't hope for a defeat in liberal thought, hope for a defeat for those who would seek to corrupt its values and skew its very definition.

 

[Vic]

It's a real shame that solid, intelligent, and ethical conservatives like Chuck Hagel get sidelined while freaks like Quittin' Palin and Ghouliani bask in the glow of the partisan hackery that espouses 'conservatism' when they really are just big-government neocons or hopelessly stupid about common-sense issues.

The thing IMO to understand is that the self-labeled modern conservative movement is anything but conservative. It's really the modern-day Know Nothing movement aka right-wing populism. These are the guys who voted (or would have voted) for Wallace and Perot. But for Goldwater? Probably not.

 

[nobodyknows]

I find Obama amusing, bumbling, intellectually incorrect, vain and destined to bring down the whole of Liberal theology.

For you that must be just like looking in a mirror.

 

[StageLeft]

Stupid and pointless statistic.

 

[Arkaign]

The thing IMO to understand is that the self-labeled modern conservative movement is anything but conservative. It's really the modern-day Know Nothing movement aka right-wing populism. These are the guys who voted (or would have voted) for Wallace and Perot. But for Goldwater? Probably not.

Yeah. *sigh*. You're spot-on. There are probably a few more Democrats that are actually 'liberal' in the true sense than there are Republicans that are actually conservative. It's a real shame, as the ideals of both stripes have a lot of great values and principles, but the corruption of the parties really dirties the waters so much that it's really hard to have any faith at all in our 2-party (neocon/neoliberal) system.

 

[OrByte]

well that settles it

Bush was a better President!!

 

[fskimospy]

Palin has been making me scratch my head recently, but I did like her at first--she actually was someone people knew and elected, but she did blow it.

Partially, it was McCain's campaign group who probably ran the most inept campaign in the history of United States politics, and partially it was because of her naivete that was exploited by journalists such as--Couric and Charlie Gibson--both idiots but abc murdered their interviews with her in it.

Tina Fey's impression didn't exactly help either. More kindly aid given to Obama by the culturally corrupt capital in Hollywood.



Obama is about as liberal as Metternich, Hitler, Stalin, Marx, and all the other "intellectuals" whom academia has praised in its sickly history.


Don't hope for a defeat in liberal thought, hope for a defeat for those who would seek to corrupt its values and skew its very definition.

Yeah it wasn't Palin's fault she was an idiot, it was everyone else's.

As for your analysis of Obama's liberalism, I like how you said Obama was equal in ideology to a whole mess of people who's actual ideologies were wildly different from one anothers.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Obama is about as liberal as Metternich, Hitler, Stalin, Marx, and all the other "intellectuals" whom academia has praised in its sickly history.


Don't hope for a defeat in liberal thought, hope for a defeat for those who would seek to corrupt its values and skew its very definition.

For the purposes of discussion, many of us have always linked Democrats, Liberals and other groups who oppose America and the Constitution.

 

[StageLeft]

Giuliani is one of the worst fvcking examples of a politician ever. A despicable opportunist who stills has a grade school view of the world and worse cannot man up and take responsibility for a screw up that quite literally was related to the loss of many lives, but apparently has the sense to commend Obama on his "the buck stops with me".

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

As America’s Mayor, Giuliani has contributed greatly to the leadership model.

The complete opposite of Obama, Guliani has command presence and the skill to protect and lead the population.

Well done!

 

[dmcowen674]

Guess who:



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31272.html

Even if he meant after 9/11, Mr. Never Forget seems to have forgotten about the Anthrax and Richard Reid.

Yet I bet every Republican in here would vote for Giuliani

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Yet I bet every Republican in here would vote for Giuliani

I like Giuliani's style.

 

[aphex]

I like Giuliani's style.

The fact that he brings up 9/11 with every statement, or that he blatantly lied?

 

[Robor]

For the purposes of discussion, many of us have always linked Democrats, Liberals and other groups who oppose America and the Constitution.

That's because you teabagging nutjobs are dishonest douche bags.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

The fact that he brings up 9/11 with every statement, or that he blatantly lied?

Both. :awe:

That's because you teabagging nutjobs are dishonest douche bags.

Get used to it. We are going to join with the middle (that same middle you guys stole in the last election) and take over, again! :thumbsup:

 

[dawp]

I like Giuliani's style.

I have to ask you,

wwybywb?

 

[kage69]

Giuliani proving yet again that he should be ignored. Guess he's trying to give Cheney some competition for Most Reviled and Worthless Politician Ever.

Funny how Mr. 9/11 tries to sound off on everything he considers linked to 9/11, but nary a peep about how and why his heroes screwed the pooch in Afghanistan for 7 years. To listen to these neocon zealots you'd think Obama set up bin Laden in a safehouse or something. The ignorance and revisionist history from these fools is astounding.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

his heroes screwed the pooch in Afghanistan for 7 years.

The only reason we are still in Afghanistan is that your friends wouldn't allow us to nuke the place. You forced our military to put boots on the ground in there.

I hope you're happy.

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