We are the 53% and we are not occupy Wall Street

[umbrella39]

This is where the old saying comes from.

Piss off a liberal. Work hard and be happy.

GTFU

 

[Engineer]

I don't have time to do much more than occupy the ER and put people on their BIPAPs and Vents lately, I'd much rather be occupying my couch...

Considering that I've been working about 70 hours per week for the past 5 weeks.......

 

[MovingTarget]

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/?npt=NP1&hpt=hp_t1

Just look at the picture and the handwritten note and these posts:



Enough said.

Take jobs you don't want to make ends meat, make all the right life decisions, suck it up, fail anyway.

This astroturf 53% movement is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt to paint the working poor and less fortunate as lazy, thus discrediting the OWS crowd. Most sane people see right through it now. Those that do make enough to pay federal income taxes and not rely on the social safety net should look at those that aren't as fortunate and realize that "there by the grace of God go I". Hard work....simply isn't enough to make it in this world anymore under the current economic system.

 

[dwell]

Shocker that middle aged white guy is against this movement. Seriously, I'm like totally shocked.

Middle-aged white guy was 20-something white guy not long ago. Much like 90% of the OWS movement. Let's see how many of the OWS crowd become "the man" when they grow up and have people that depend on them.

You act like the 99% are the civil rights movement. You have no clue.

 

[Engineer]

Middle-aged white guy was 20-something white guy not long ago. Much like 90% of the OWS movement. Let's see how many of the OWS crowd become "the man" when they grow up and have people that depend on them.

You act like the 99% are the civil rights movement. You have no clue.

If we don't stop sending jobs out of this country there will be no chance to become "the man" for many people in the next generation. The foundation is crumbling for 30 years and only though tax cutting, subsidies and credit have people moved forward. Now, their credit has run out, the subsidies are in threat of being cut off (because of deficits) and the tax cutting has went negative (47% that don't pay federal taxes because they make too little).

But of course, send everyone to college is the solution.....only until it isn't. Welcome to Walmart.......would you like a buggy?

 

[GrGr]

Middle-aged white guy was 20-something white guy not long ago. Much like 90% of the OWS movement. Let's see how many of the OWS crowd become "the man" when they grow up and have people that depend on them.

You act like the 99% are the civil rights movement. You have no clue.

I love how the 53% attack the fellow 99% victims of the top 1 % greed. By their own admission the 53% people work 60 hour weeks in jobs they hate and get payed for 40 hours max (in other words being exploited by the top 1%). Yet they still think that is the way it should be. Smart.

 

[halik]

Take jobs you don't want to make ends meat, make all the right life decisions, suck it up, fail anyway.

This astroturf 53% movement is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt to paint the working poor and less fortunate as lazy, thus discrediting the OWS crowd. Most sane people see right through it now. Those that do make enough to pay federal income taxes and not rely on the social safety net should look at those that aren't as fortunate and realize that "there by the grace of God go I". Hard work....simply isn't enough to make it in this world anymore under the current economic system.

That is such a bullshit copout statement I don't even know where to begin. I'm gonna guess you're a middle class white kid right?

You happened to be lucky enough to be born in one of my most prosperous countries in the world, where, unlike the other 99% of world's population, you actually have a very good chance at leading a comfortable, happy life if you put in a least bit of effort. Free k-12 education, easy access to college financing for world's best higher education and freedom to move all around north america for work... somewhere in ethiopia, there's a line of young kids ready to kick you in the nuts for that retarded statement.

<- Came to the united states 10 years and am fairly certain you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

 

[cubby1223]

I would tell this guy to deliver his note to the Iraq war veteran who is now in the hospital in critical condition. Head injuries from a gas grenade. Police attacked crowd in Oakland.

But I guess the injured vet who served our country was just another unemployed pot-smoking hippie.

Congratulations, you have your ready-made response to give to people so you never have to deal with the actual issues at hand. I know you're proud of yourself.

 

[Engineer]

I love how the 53% attack the fellow 99% victims of the top 1 % greed. By their own admission the 53% people work 60 hour weeks in jobs they hate and get payed for 40 hours max (in other words being exploited by the top 1%). Yet they still think that is the way it should be. Smart.

This guy (and his wife) can't be working that many hours....

He and his wife are teachers and they must, by recent forum definitions, be getting off (and paid for) 3+ months out of the year. No way he is working that many hours, right? Besides, the union that he is under wouldn't allow it?!? :hmm:

 

[CPA]

Seems like there's a quasi-divide opening:

Loud minority of people that claim to speak for the majority and the actual majority that doesn't have time for such escapades due to real life logistics like bills etc.

this.

all you need to know about the interest in OWS is to see the low turnout in Oakland.

 

[GrGr]

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/?npt=NP1&hpt=hp_t1

Just look at the picture and the handwritten note and these posts:



Enough said.

Aye, poor deluded suckers.

 

[Patranus]

I love how the 53% attack the fellow 99% victims of the top 1 % greed. By their own admission the 53% people work 60 hour weeks in jobs they hate and get payed for 40 hours max (in other words being exploited by the top 1%). Yet they still think that is the way it should be. Smart.

You don't get it.
Its not about attack the 1% the 25% or the 50%.
Just because someone earns more than you doesn't mean you are entitled to a single penny they earn.

 

[dwell]

I love how the 53% attack the fellow 99% victims of the top 1 % greed. By their own admission the 53% people work 60 hour weeks in jobs they hate and get payed for 40 hours max (in other words being exploited by the top 1%). Yet they still think that is the way it should be. Smart.

Nobody is saying that. We had shit jobs and worked 60 hour weeks, then buckled down, stopped whining and got and education, many of us while we were working. Now we can work 40 hour weeks and get paid a lot of money. All thank to those years we sacrificed in our 20s.

20-somethings today want it all now. They want to get from A to Z without cutting their teeth. That attitude is for shit.

 

[GrGr]

This guy (and his wife) can't be working that many hours....

He and his wife are teachers and they must, by recent forum definitions, be getting off (and paid for) 3+ months out of the year. No way he is working that many hours, right? Besides, the union that he is under wouldn't allow it?!? :hmm:

Hm, doesn't sound like he is one of the thousands of teachers being layed off in NY does it?

Wait, not sure if the unions managed to stop that. Just recall reading about it this summer/spring.

 

[Infohawk]

Nobody is saying that. We had shit jobs and worked 60 hour weeks, then buckled down, stopped whining and got and education, many of us while we were working. Now we can work 40 hour weeks and get paid a lot of money. All thank to those years we sacrificed in our 20s.

20-somethings today want it all now. They want to get from A to Z without cutting their teeth. That attitude is for shit.

Read Engineer's post. Do you really think it's as easy these days for people in their 20s? I doubt it. Education costs are dramatically higher and every job / profession is feeling pressure from global labor markets and on the lower end from illegal immigration.

 

[halik]

I love how the 53% attack the fellow 99% victims of the top 1 % greed. By their own admission the 53% people work 60 hour weeks in jobs they hate and get payed for 40 hours max (in other words being exploited by the top 1%). Yet they still think that is the way it should be. Smart.

Huh? I'd rather get paid by the results, rather than the amount of time i spent sitting someplace...

 

[Throckmorton]

That is such a bullshit copout statement I don't even know where to begin. I'm gonna guess you're a middle class white kid right?

You happened to be lucky enough to be born in one of my most prosperous countries in the world, where, unlike the other 99&#37; of world's population, you actually have a very good chance at leading a comfortable, happy life if you put in a least bit of effort. Free k-12 education, easy access to college financing for world's best higher education and freedom to move all around north america for work... somewhere in ethiopia, there's a line of young kids ready to kick you in the nuts for that retarded statement.

<- Came to the united states 10 years and am fairly certain you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

I know you may not realize this, being a rich guy in New York Fucking City, the city that produces nothing of value and exists mainly to shuffle money around and make musical fucking plays for homosexuals to enjoy (not that there's anything wrong with that), but the median salary in America is about $26k. That's a person square in the middle of the middle class. Try living in the real world and then talk about how prosperous America is.

 

[bfdd]

Take jobs you don't want to make ends meat, make all the right life decisions, suck it up, fail anyway.

This astroturf 53% movement is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt to paint the working poor and less fortunate as lazy, thus discrediting the OWS crowd. Most sane people see right through it now. Those that do make enough to pay federal income taxes and not rely on the social safety net should look at those that aren't as fortunate and realize that "there by the grace of God go I". Hard work....simply isn't enough to make it in this world anymore under the current economic system.

Well obviously it's harder when you worry more about buying the next iPhone than you do putting food in your frig. You can get pretty far on hard work now a days, you can go a little further with proper ass kissing as well. Our current system is kinda fucked, I don't deny that, but screaming at Wall Street and the Government is laughable. If you are pissed at the financial and economic situation protest the Federal Reserve and demand every banker/finance expert and anyone associated with them get the fuck out of Government. Until then lololol at Wall Street. Yeah they're the problem, not the small subset group which owns our currency.

 

[halik]

I know you may not realize this, being a rich guy in New York Fucking City, the city that produces nothing of value and exists mainly to shuffle money around and make musical fucking plays for homosexuals to enjoy (not that there's anything wrong with that), but the median salary in America is about $26k. That's a person square in the middle of the middle class.

Well I live in Chicago and my net worth is hovering slightly above zero, but continue...

Oh yeah, median salary is $32K and in the $50s with college degree , I think you were looking at per capita data.

 

[GrGr]

You don't get it.
Its not about attack the 1% the 25% or the 50%.
Just because someone earns more than you doesn't mean you are entitled to a single penny they earn.

So what. Nobody exists in a vacuum, of course everybody should pay their part to society. That guy that claimes he alone was responsible for his fortunes in life is deluded. He stands on the top of thousands of other people. This guy earns USD, dollars than just because of it's status as the world reserve currency is subsidised by people from all over the world. These dollars help him make his way in the world and support his delusion that he is independent. But if he really is alone in making his way in the world then he should stop using dollars, or any other collective means of payment or service.

Somebody makes his shoes, somebody makes roads for him, somebody is there if he has an medical emergency (we can hope) etc etc. There is this thing called society that makes the collective larger than the individual. If the individual is deluded to the point he thinks he is apart from the collective that doesn't change the basic fact that he isn't. Society has cared for him since he was born.

Now if that guy grows his own food, makes his own clothes, doesn't use money, builds his own house without tools or equipment from society, doesn't use a car or roads made by others etc etc or use any service in society, then, why I do believe he could make the claim that he is master of his own fortune.

 

[dwell]

Read Engineer's post. Do you really think it's as easy these days for people in their 20s? I doubt it. Education costs are dramatically higher and every job / profession is feeling pressure from global labor markets and on the lower end from illegal immigration.

Do you think it's easy these days for anyone? My profession (software development) is largely outsourced. What did I do? Made sure that I am smarter and better rounded than the dudes off shore working for 1 / 10th of what I get.

 

[Throckmorton]

Well I live in Chicago and my net worth is hovering slightly above zero, but continue...

Sounds like you're in the bottom of the 99% then.

 

[Engineer]

Do you think it's easy these days for anyone? My profession (software development) is largely outsourced. What did I do? Made sure that I am smarter and better rounded than the dudes off shore working for 1 / 10th of what I get.

So everyone needs to go to college and get smarter. Problem solved.

I'm going to write my reps. about expanding college loans! :biggrin:

 

[GrGr]

Huh? I'd rather get paid by the results, rather than the amount of time i spent sitting someplace...

Man, I'd love you if I was an employer. I'd work your nuts off just for you to make a survival salary. Then when you are worn out I'd replace you with the next schmuck in line.

Or I'd restrict the amount of jobs where I offer full time. I'd just employ loads of part-timers. That way I wouldn't have to pay for any pensions or medicare plan.

I don't see why these 53% people think that going back to some kind of pre-WWI US capitalism is such a great idea. The rich are loving it of course. They were filthy rich back then and did more or less as they pleased while workers had no protection whatsoever. There were no worker compensation laws back then, those came about in 1914. Ever wonder why?


Back then the US was stealing stuff from Spain and plundring China for it's resources... Same old, same old isn't it.

 

[Patranus]

So what. Nobody exists in a vacuum, of course everybody should pay their part to society. That guy that claimes he alone was responsible for his fortunes in life is deluded. He stands on the top of thousands of other people. This guy earns USD, dollars than just because of it's status as the world reserve currency is subsidised by people from all over the world. These dollars help him make his way in the world and support his delusion that he is independent. But if he really is alone in making his way in the world then he should stop using dollars, or any other collective means of payment or service.

Somebody makes his shoes, somebody makes roads for him, somebody is there if he has an medical emergency (we can hope) etc etc. There is this thing called society that makes the collective larger than the individual. If the individual is deluded to the point he thinks he is apart from the collective that doesn't change the basic fact that he isn't. Society has cared for him since he was born.

Now if that guy grows his own food, makes his own clothes, doesn't use money, builds his own house without tools or equipment from society, doesn't use a car or roads made by others etc etc or use any service in society, then, why I do believe he could make the claim that he is master of his own fortune.

Yes, but 1/2 those things don't involve tax dollars a none of them involve handouts like these 99ers are calling for.