We are the 53% and we are not occupy Wall Street

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the DRIZZLE

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It is quite simple, keep the corporations out of the government and the problem is solved. It has always worked fine mostly until Republican deregulation came about in the 1980s,

Based on what? There is a long long history of businesses using the government to extract either monopolist rents or other benefits.
 

bfdd

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Parents still had plenty of time with their children after K-12 became mandatory. Are you seriously arguing that we not require children to attend school or at least verify that they are homeschooled? That is a requirement for civilized advanced society nowadays. The school day is still ~8-3 now as it was decades ago. You may want to save your ire for the fact that two wage earners are now required for the most part to keep a family afloat financially.

They took away most the choice. You go to a State ran school, unless you have enough money to get the fuck out of it. I support things like the DC voucher program, I think EVERYWHERE should have things like that. Parents should have choice of schools the government is going to pay for the children to go to. Government's going to pay anyways right? I'd rather not see their monopolistic control over education, we've seen how it has been failing us. BTW when I say educators please do not think I strictly mean teachers, I mean people in the education industry.
 

MagickMan

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It is quite simple, keep the corporations out of the government and the problem is solved. It has always worked fine mostly until Republican deregulation came about in the 1980s, this is where your blind spot is, your way here is a total fail in real life, so you guys double down.

Sorry, but people who do not learn from mistakes over and over and either stupid, or desperate. Probably both. Adapt or be left behind. No need to keep propping up failure lest the free market of ideas run your asses over.

Problem is you guys are so wrapped up in your fantasyworlds you have no bearings on reality, thus you repeat laughable superficial nonsense as this.

The public opinion polls show that I'm right. The public is increasingly wanting government to fix the economic problems caused by Wall Street.


Why can't you understand this? Protesting IN WALL STREET is the only way to get the American people to focus on on the 1% and the power they wield.

The only laughable nonsense is that we've already explained this twice and you still haven't comprehended it. If your heads were any harder we could use them to cut diamonds. Again, go back and read what we've already posted. :rolleyes:
 

MovingTarget

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They took away most the choice. You go to a State ran school, unless you have enough money to get the fuck out of it. I support things like the DC voucher program, I think EVERYWHERE should have things like that. Parents should have choice of schools the government is going to pay for the children to go to. Government's going to pay anyways right? I'd rather not see their monopolistic control over education, we've seen how it has been failing us. BTW when I say educators please do not think I strictly mean teachers, I mean people in the education industry.

...kids spend more time at school than they do with their parents now a days. Ever since I was little it was pretty much the same way. Schools do most the raising now...

Your post, to which I responded, wasn't about vouchers, but about the choice of whether or not to send your kids to school at all. It was about the time spent in school, not which school. A voucher program would not affect the total time spent in school, and is thus irrelevant. The pros/cons of a voucher program are best discussed elsewhere in its own thread.
 

Throckmorton

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The only laughable nonsense is that we've already explained this twice and you still haven't comprehended it. If your heads were any harder we could use them to cut diamonds. Again, go back and read what we've already posted. :rolleyes:

Here's the reality... You want anger directed toward government because you're a conservative. Give it up. Occupy is working and it's finally turning the tide against the free market trickle down Reaganomics bullshit that Wall Street has been feeding us for 30 years.
 

palehorse

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Here's the reality... You want anger directed toward government because you're a conservative. Give it up. Occupy is working and it's finally turning the tide against the free market trickle down Reaganomics bullshit that Wall Street has been feeding us for 30 years.
1. Exactly what tide has been turned by OWS?

2. I want anger directed towards Government because that's what's f'n broken; and, ironically, it's also the only element than can legally fix it.

3. Will the government fix itself based on a few thousand people screaming in parks hundreds and thousands of miles away? I highly f'n doubt it...
 
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Throckmorton

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1. Exactly what tide has been turned by OWS?

2. I want anger directed towards Government because that's what's f'n broken; and, ironically, it's also the only element than can legally fix it.

3. Will the government fix itself based on a few thousand people screaming in parks hundreds and thousands of miles away? I highly f'n doubt it...

2/3 of Americans and 1/3 of Republicans now say wealth is too concentrated.... If you don't think the tide is turning, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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1. Exactly what tide has been turned by OWS?

The corporate media is unable to continue to ignore the camps now, the debate has changed from right-wing propaganda to a touch of reality. That in itself is a massive triumph, far more then a few cities winning the right to camp under the 1st amendment even.

Also, it has nakedly exposed the flea party for what it is by backing the media cheerleaders into a corner forcing them to pick sides: Now it is VERY obvious what people have been saying about the party the whole time: It was nothing but an artificial corporate PR campaign backed by the GOP and their cronies in big industry.

Even if the cops beat every protester down and threw them out this would only increase numbers drastically as shown with the beating of the Marine in Oakland.

The wheels are in motion. We shall see how it goes from here.
 
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palehorse

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2/3 of Americans and 1/3 of Republicans now say wealth is too concentrated.... If you don't think the tide is turning, I don't know what to tell you.
You're giving OWS credit for that? Really?!

Please link to the study/poll you're referencing.
 

Throckmorton

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