[WCCF] AMD Radeon R9 390X Pictured

[xthetenth]

This is assuming your PSU and case can handle a 290. Not all of them can.

Not all Psus are worth running a computer on. Buy a real psu once pay once. Buy an underpowered card, pay repeatedly.

 

[JDG1980]

Not all Psus are worth running a computer on. Buy a real psu once pay once. Buy an underpowered card, pay repeatedly.

That's true if you are building from scratch. But there are a lot of people who want to upgrade an off-the-shelf OEM system. In that case, you're often dealing with a crappy 300W-450W PSU that may not be reliable at 100% of its rated value, and may not graciously shut down if overloaded. Nvidia has cards designed to work with this constrained scenario; AMD's equivalents at the same power points are far inferior.

 

[xthetenth]

That's true if you are building from scratch. But there are a lot of people who want to upgrade an off-the-shelf OEM system. In that case, you're often dealing with a crappy 300W-450W PSU that may not be reliable at 100% of its rated value, and may not graciously shut down if overloaded. Nvidia has cards designed to work with this constrained scenario; AMD's equivalents at the same power points are far inferior.

And buying around that limitation means paying more every time you get a card and potentially once more when it goes pop.

 

[SPBHM]

The problem with the 960 is you can buy a 290 for $50 more that's 50% faster. There is no other upgrade increment that costs so little yet nets you so much performance. Its price is not competitive for people without green tinted goggles.

$50 is still a significant price difference for a $200 product, that's why AMD still sells 280/285s, 270s and not just 290s.
the 290 offers much higher performance per $, but the 960 is certainly very capable for 1080P gaming, it's newer, more power efficient, with support for newer tech, it's also cheaper and a Geforce, when you look at AMD cards from the same price the performance per $ advantage for AMD is not as significant, and you still have older GPUs with some disadvantages...

let's also consider that steam hardware survey is not US only, and outside of the US, I think the pricing for the 290s is not as good

 

[LTC8K6]

R9 290 offer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202143&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-202-143-_-Product

$269.99 - $20 rebate, Free 8GB DDR3 1866, and Free Dirt Rally game...

Trying to clear them out, I guess.

 

[rainy]

$50 is still a significant price difference for a $200 product, that's why AMD still sells 280/285s, 270s and not just 290s.

For 200 dollars you have just 2GB version, those with 4GB are in 220-260 dollars range.
Also difference in performance is more than serious: not just 5-10-15 percent, it's quite whopping 50!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709 600537575 600007787

 

[sze5003]

R9 290 offer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202143&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-202-143-_-Product

$269.99 - $20 rebate, Free 8GB DDR3 1866, and Free Dirt Rally game...

Trying to clear them out, I guess.

Dirt rally or dirt 3 came free with my 7970 card. I think I gave it away. They should include a different game.

 

[DiogoDX]

Dirt rally or dirt 3 came free with my 7970 card. I think I gave it away. They should include a different game.

Dirt Rally is a 2015 game.

 

[jamesgalb]

Making my predictions...

- $999 Titan X killer :: r9 "395x2 VR" - 2x Fiji w/ 8gb HBM water cooled
- $599 980ti killer :: r9 "395x" - Fiji w/ 4gb HBM air cooled
- $499 980 killer :: r9 390x - respun 290x w/ 8gb gddr5 overclocked, optimized & fully enabled
- $349 970 killer :: r9 390 - respun 290x w/4gb gddr5 overclocked & optimized
- $249 960ti killer :: r9 380x - rebadged 285 w/ 4gb gddr5 overlocked & fully enabled
- $199 960 killer :: r9 380 - rebadged 285 w/ 2gb gddr5 overclocked & fully enabled

Revising a bit based on new info

- $999 Titan X killer :: Fury VR - 2x Fiji w/ 8gb HBM water cooled (possible 8gb usable and not 4gb x2?)
- $599 980ti competitor :: Fury X - Fiji w/ 4gb HBM overclocked & water cooled
- $499 980 killer #1 :: Fury - Fiji w/ 4gb HBM aircooled
- $399 980 killer #2 :: r9 390x - rebadged 290x w/ 8gb gddr5 overclocked & optimized
- $299 970 killer :: r9 390 - rebadged 290x w/4gb gddr5 overclocked & optimized
- $199 960 killer :: r9 380 - rebadged 285 w/ 4gb gddr5 & overclocked

computex conference in 4 hours. I expect 300 series release and Fury teasers until E3. Fury VR postponed with a post-E3 launch...

AMD could still win this generation battle

 

[crashtech]

I don't count dual GPU cards as true competition to single card solutions, until and unless a way is found to make the dual GPUs look like one to the rest of the system

 

[goa604]

Isnt dx12 the solution?

 

[exar333]

Isnt dx12 the solution?

Not unless it is coded specifically to do so.

 

[el etro]

Ok, everyone is predicting the card lineup, so i will give my predictions too.



Cards are not a total redesign, but instead is a sidegrade from 200 series:

Fiji: 8GB HBM at 640GB/s, 4096 and 3560 shaders, 1.05Ghz core clock, Fabbed at 28SHP from GF, GCN1.3, performance 45%-65% faster than R9 290x;

Granada: 4-8GB GDDR5 at >320GB/s, 2816/2560 shaders at 1-1.05Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.1, Performance 10% faster than 290x and 290, respectively;

Tonga: 2-4GB GDDR5 at >220GB/s on 256bit, 2048/1792 shaders at ~1GHZ, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.2, Performance 10% faster than R9 280x(380x) and 15% faster than R9 285(380);

New GPU: 2-4GB GDDR5 at >170GB/s on 256bit, 1280/1024 shaders at >=1.05Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.3, Peformance 10% faster than 270x/270 respectively;

New GPU: 2GB GDDR5 at >120GB/s on 128bit, 896/768 shaders at >=1.1Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.3, Performance 10% faster than 260x/260 respectively.

 

[DiogoDX]

Ok, everyone is predicting the card lineup, so i will give my predictions too.



Cards are not a total redesign, but instead is a sidegrade from 200 series:

Fiji: 8GB HBM at 640GB/s, 4096 and 3560 shaders, 1.05Ghz core clock, Fabbed at 28SHP from GF, GCN1.3, performance 45%-65% faster than R9 290x;

Granada: 4-8GB GDDR5 at >320GB/s, 2816/2560 shaders at 1-1.05Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.1, Performance 10% faster than 290x and 290, respectively;

Tonga: 2-4GB GDDR5 at >220GB/s on 256bit, 2048/1792 shaders at ~1GHZ, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.2, Performance 10% faster than R9 280x(380x) and 15% faster than R9 285(380);

New GPU: 2-4GB GDDR5 at >170GB/s on 256bit, 1280/1024 shaders at >=1.05Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.3, Peformance 10% faster than 270x/270 respectively;

New GPU: 2GB GDDR5 at >120GB/s on 128bit, 896/768 shaders at >=1.1Ghz, Fabbed at GF28SHP, GCN1.3, Performance 10% faster than 260x/260 respectively.

There is no GCN 1.3. Latest GCN is 1.2 or GEN3 as per Carrizo slide. And is feature 12_0.

4GB is almost certain since Macri said 1GB per stack and the die photo shows 4 stacks.

 

[Udgnim]

high chance AMD paper launches Fiji today?

someone bought up 1M AMD shares before stock market close today

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amd/time-sales

 

[Silverforce11]

high chance AMD paper launches Fiji today?

someone bought up 1M AMD shares before stock market close today

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amd/time-sales

The last time there was Titan, there was a 9 month delay before it was semi-obsoleted (it still had compute) by the 780, which had custom models matching Titan performance.

This time, there was a less than 3 month delay before Titan X is utterly obsoleted with even reference 980Ti matching Titan X, well-timed to hammer AMD.

If AMD knows whats good for them they can't put it off any longer, 980Ti has forced their hand, if they delay, NV is gonna steal most of the potential enthusiast GPU buyers.

 

[Azix]

soooooooooooooon

nvidia launched to grab sales before they got crushed, or nvidia launched to pressure AMD harder. second is harder to believe if AMD is flopping tho

 

[laspariahs]

Hopefully AMD brings the goods and soon.

 

[crashtech]

Now that Computex is on, chances of AMD having a Titan beater diminish every day we don't hear something from them, imo.

 

[Azix]

Now that Computex is on, chances of AMD having a Titan beater diminish every day we don't hear something from them, imo.

they have a schedule. There is no diminishing of anything.

 

[Noctifer616]

Now that Computex is on, chances of AMD having a Titan beater diminish every day we don't hear something from them, imo.

Press conference starts in a few hours I think. If there is going to be any info before E3 it's going to be probably there.

 

[DDH]

they have a schedule. There is no diminishing of anything.

This man speaks truth. The conference is today at 10am Taiwan local time (+8UTC). Begins in approx two hours from now

 

[boozzer]

I can't wait

 

[wege12]

I've been waiting months to build my first gaming PC just to see what AMD's 300 series is all about. I really hope we get some concrete news today at Computex!

 

[crashtech]

This man speaks truth. The conference is today at 10am Taiwan local time (+8UTC). Begins in approx two hours from now

Good to know. I'm about sick of waiting now that the 980ti is out. I have a 290 now and am very willing to stay on the red team, but I'm past ready to upgrade.