irishScott
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- Oct 10, 2006
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Some people just can't think non-linearly apparently. If you talk about the future and then talk about the past that led up to that future, their brain shorts out. That's the only explanations I can think of as to why a considerable number of people think this. OP, have you seen memento? I bet that would fuck you up royally. 
I should also point out that this seems especially prevalent in the previous generation (I'm 21). My friends and I had no trouble whatsoever following the plot, and I have yet to find someone in my age bracket that does.
I should also point out that this seems especially prevalent in the previous generation (I'm 21). My friends and I had no trouble whatsoever following the plot, and I have yet to find someone in my age bracket that does.
destrekor
Lifer
- Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Some people just can't think non-linearly apparently. If you talk about the future and then talk about the past that led up to that future, their brain shorts out. That's the only explanations I can think of as to why a considerable number of people think this. OP, have you seen memento? I bet that would fuck you up royally.
I should also point out that this seems especially prevalent in the previous generation (I'm 21). My friends and I had no trouble whatsoever following the plot, and I have yet to find someone in my age bracket that does.
Memento is a tough movie for most anyone, until you watch it again and you go... "ohhhh, I get it now!". That's how I was. That's an amazing movie.
Donnie Darko is a similar experiment with screwing around with time, at least once you watch the whole movie and start wandering what it all meant.
And with the age bracket thing... you might be on to something there. Our generation is the one with the best ability for multi-tasking. Others have acquired the ability, either through personal means or due to work, but since our generation was young we've basically put ourselves in situations where to do what we want and accomplish what we need to, something our generation feels is important (the do what we want part
), it's like an innate ability, though still many do not have that, or think they do but get screwed when they find they are terrible multi-taskers.
Locut0s
Lifer
- Nov 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Some people just can't think non-linearly apparently. If you talk about the future and then talk about the past that led up to that future, their brain shorts out. That's the only explanations I can think of as to why a considerable number of people think this. OP, have you seen memento? I bet that would fuck you up royally.
I should also point out that this seems especially prevalent in the previous generation (I'm 21). My friends and I had no trouble whatsoever following the plot, and I have yet to find someone in my age bracket that does.
I understood the movie 100%. I hated it 100% One doesn't have to not understand the movie to dislike it.
destrekor
Lifer
- Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: irishScott
Some people just can't think non-linearly apparently. If you talk about the future and then talk about the past that led up to that future, their brain shorts out. That's the only explanations I can think of as to why a considerable number of people think this. OP, have you seen memento? I bet that would fuck you up royally.
I should also point out that this seems especially prevalent in the previous generation (I'm 21). My friends and I had no trouble whatsoever following the plot, and I have yet to find someone in my age bracket that does.
I understood the movie 100%. I hated it 100% One doesn't have to not understand the movie to dislike it.
That's an entirely different topic. Once its understood, personal opinion is completely acceptable. Even the best movies (according to the general public at large) will still be disliked by some people. We're okay with that... for the most part.
pontifex
Lifer
- Dec 5, 2000
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i haven't seen it but i have heard from several people at work who have that it is doesn't make sense in a lot of places because the order in which it is displayed.
A quick look at the reviews on RottenTomatoes says that it is really confusing, even to people who liked it.
i still don't get why you keep talking about our timeline and the references to harry potter.
i'm done though because you seem to have this major hard on for the movie and/or for arguing with people.
DangerAardvark
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- Oct 22, 2004
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So does it follow the graphic novel pretty closely? The trailer seemed spot on. If so, I can't imagine not liking it.
irishScott
Lifer
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It follows it extremely closely, but it only touches on the major points. They altered the specifics of the ending a little (no psychic aliens were involved). Same result/timeline though.
Saw the movie in the theaters, bought the DVD on friday, just watched it this afternoon. Neither I or the wife had any trouble following it, and thought it was very good. Picked up on a little more this time through than when watched for the first time in the theather. And we have not ever even picked up any of the graphic novels.
cKGunslinger
Lifer
- Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
this.
Roschach (sp)? was the most interesting character.
The best moment of the film, was when he was in prison, and someone said to him : "You're locked in here with us now!" to which he replied :
"YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH MEEEE!!!!"
After boiling someone's skin off.
Win
Yeah, but when Rorschach was about to be captured and he panicked like he did - that was.. weird. Totally showed a different side of his character. He always seemed confident and was in control, but when things didn't quite go according to plan, he freaked. But then he regained himself and fucked-up some prisoners - lol.
IAteYourMother
Lifer
- Nov 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Arkaign
this.
Roschach (sp)? was the most interesting character.
The best moment of the film, was when he was in prison, and someone said to him : "You're locked in here with us now!" to which he replied :
"YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH MEEEE!!!!"
After boiling someone's skin off.
Win
Yeah, but when Rorschach was about to be captured and he panicked like he did - that was.. weird. Totally showed a different side of his character. He always seemed confident and was in control, but when things didn't quite go according to plan, he freaked. But then he regained himself and fucked-up some prisoners - lol.
He freaked, but he still stayed in control, fucking up police officers. He knew he was trapped and got royally pissed.
I give it a 9/10. It had the same Tennyson / "Ulysses" vibe as Miller's Dark Knight for both the older and younger retired heroes, a well-crafted alternate history with Nixon around to fight the Cold War (shades of Dr. Strangelove), an interesting plot that made perfect sense.
It's a movie for older viewers than Batman or Spider-man. Many teen viewers probably won't emphasize with a 36-year-old Nite Owl feeling a bit lost in his forced retirement, or get the mix of emotions as he and Silk Spectre break the rules to dispense vigilante justice again.
It's a movie for older viewers than Batman or Spider-man. Many teen viewers probably won't emphasize with a 36-year-old Nite Owl feeling a bit lost in his forced retirement, or get the mix of emotions as he and Silk Spectre break the rules to dispense vigilante justice again.
aircooled
Lifer
- Oct 10, 2000
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I didn't particularly care for the movie. In fact, no one in my family liked it and they've all read and liked the graphic novel.
I enjoyed the scenery and set, very impressive on Blu-Ray, but the 3+ hour movie was not very gripping and the director seemed more focused on the set look and feel rather than the acting.
I enjoyed the scenery and set, very impressive on Blu-Ray, but the 3+ hour movie was not very gripping and the director seemed more focused on the set look and feel rather than the acting.
LaBella
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cKGunslinger
Lifer
- Nov 29, 1999
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Well, yeah. :laugh:
The point was, he always demonstrated he was a cool, think-on-his-feet character who never got wound up, but that was only a facade - he was that way only because he carefully planned everything he did and considered the all potential ways things could go wrong. But that *one* time he didn't consider the possibility that he was being set up (by the smartest man in the world, of course) and he had a moment of sheer panic before he adapted.
I don't know if that was in the comic, but that was a huge bit of character development.
- Aug 22, 2001
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I thought so too. But without the paralleling story of the Black Freighter to as the writer stated-
And all of the events/ clues leading up to how Veidt really tricked the world, a lot of the depth/skillfully executed story arc, was lost.
That would have just made it even more boring for the average viewer though, I suppose.
I wasn't a fan of the movie either. I "got it" and understood what was going on, and the twist was ok, but overall it just didn't do it for me.
There were good parts here and there with alot of boredom in between.
There were good parts here and there with alot of boredom in between.
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