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Other than the obvious trolling...

It is true that a smaller person can take out a bigger person by targeting susceptible areas ( namely chin, throat/eyes/critical spots )...

It is true that a smaller person can take out a bigger person if the bigger person has less experience fighting and the smaller person has much more experience and knowledge...

It is true that a smaller person can take out a bigger person who's as experienced with a lucky blow...

With that said, Bruce Lee would die against Fedor.

Let's compare their strengths and weaknesses...

Fedor:

- 230 lbs, more muscle; ability to absorb more damage for body blows
- granite chin ( see Fujita right hand )
- practices evasion / dodging
- has competed in MMA professionally, has 32+ pro fights of experience along with training
- has competed in Sambo professionally, has been champion multiple times
- has world class judo / grappling skills; no one has come close to submitting him
- has trained for wrestling / tdd
- is considerably FAST for a hw, moves like a cat for a HW ( ++ ADVANTAGE )

Bruce Lee:

- 125 lbs; faster but FAR LESS power
- hasnt competed professionally, no real world experience using his techniques other than movies
- no proven chin or ability to take hits. considering he's 125 lbs he'd probably crumble fairly quick after taking even just one shot
- utilizes a lot of fancy kicks and jump kicks
- never trained a ground game or judo
- never trained wrestling / tdd

Scenarios:

1. Bruce Lee starts with a jump kick -> Fedor knocks him out Arlovski style
2. Bruce Lee starts with a jump kick -> Fedor moves out of the way and takes him down, breaks his arm via armbar.
3. Bruce Lee starts with a flurry of fists -> Fedor would most likely absorb those or counter, one fist lands and Bruce is KO'd
4. Bruce Lee starts with a flurry of fists -> Fedor would simply shoot in and take Bruce down, Bruce is completely useless on the ground
5. Bruce Lee starts with kicks -> Fedor either counters or catches the kick and trips Bruce, Bruce is useless on the ground
6. Bruce Lee shoots in on Fedor -> Fedor's TDD + mass nullifies the takedown and counter-judo trip or takedown
7. Bruce Lee patiently tries low kicking Fedor -> Fedor checks his kicks and counter kicks, his leg mass is much more than Lee's so Lee would just be hurting himself
8. Bruce Lee opens up with a sidekick -> Fedor catches or absorbs with his beer gut belly and renders Lee useless.
9. Bruce Lee tries a roundhouse jump -> Fedor moves and Bruce just wastes his energy
10. Bruce Lee moves in to gouge the eyes -> Fedor takes him down
11. Bruce Lee tries a spinning sidekick -> Fedor clinches, knees him to death or takes him down
12. Bruce Lee opens up with a right hand -> Fedor simply evades and counter right hand with more power
13. Bruce Lee fakes and lands a right on Fedor's chin -> Fedor is used to getting hit by 200+ lbers so he probably wouldn't be phased. If Fedor however did go down, Bruce wouldn't be able to do anything while he was down since Fedor can easily outgrapple him.
14. Bruce Lee somehow eye gouges Fedor -> Fedor has his other eye and an enraged Fedor is a scary Fedor. See the asian guy who didn't shake his hand.

I can think of endless scenarios and Bruce Lee's only offense would be lucky strikes after faking.

I do not see how Bruce can win other than in a movie.


Amazing the things your imagination can create, and how useless such assumptions are.

here's my scenario:

Bruce Lee: 1 inch punch to Fedor's nuts--he doesn't even see Lee's hand.

Fedor loses scrotum, loses match, bleeds out.

too bad for Fedor.
 
Amazing the things your imagination can create, and how useless such assumptions are.

here's my scenario:

Bruce Lee: 1 inch punch to Fedor's nuts--he doesn't even see Lee's hand.

Fedor loses scrotum, loses match, bleeds out.

too bad for Fedor.

Fedor would be used to getting hit, and Fedor is never phased even if he's bleeding. Bruce would cry like a little girl. Can you imagine 125 lb Bruce in place of Nog? Immediate death.

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Using your logic

These 4 HWs who you've mentioned haven't fought anyone worth a shit in their entire lives. Anyone with eyes can see that:

Cain has fought no one, Nog is washed up! Just 1 top 10 contender in his entire life. Cain is ducking Fedor.
Carwin has fought no one, Mir is washed up! Just 1 top 10 contender in his entire life. Carwin is ducking Fedor.
Brock has fought no one, Mir is washed up and Old Man Couture is just old. Brock is ducking Fedor.
JDS has fought no one, Cro Cop is washed up and Werdum is a nobody. JDS is ducking Fedor.

Dana White runs you.

You couldn't be on Fedor's nuts any more if you were pubes.

So basically you're saying all of the top UFC HW's are trash? So who are your top 5 HW's? And it can't be:

1) Fedor
2) Fedor
3) Fedor
4) Fedor
5) Fedor
 
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Fedor would be used to getting hit, and Fedor is never phased even if he's bleeding. Bruce would cry like a little girl. Can you imagine 125 lb Bruce in place of Nog? Immediate death.

I'm sure Lee has passed pieces of stool bigger than Fedor. How do I know this? It's predicated with the same type of solid foundation on which you base your assumptions.
 
Hilarious, Bruce would tear any MMA dude a new asshole, I don't care about a size difference. Yes, that usually means a lot but Lee wasn't a normal dude in any aspect. He trained punching and kicking using a 300lb heavy bag. His speed was also considerably faster than anyone in MMA. Hell he punched faster than Mayweater, and Floyd would make any dude in MMA look silly in a boxing match. Dunno if they're true or just stories, but I've heard a couple of times Bruce knocked the heavy bag off the hook it was on, Mind you be trained on 300lbs bags, which would be the equivelent to him fighting Giant Silva or another SHW in Japan. Bruce was very well versed in fighting, sure most of his were street fights, but he's up there with Chuck Norris. And in his prime Chuck would put anyone in MMA to sleep with a kick. Bruce Vs Fedor would look like Cro Cop Vs Kimbo Slice. Fedor would stand little chance, Bruce was stronger and much faster. Imagine a dude training on a 300lb bag with 1000 kicks a day. That's Bruce. Look up video clips of his one inch punch. He generated more power in 1 inch than most fighters can using their entire body. Dude was a freak.


"I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable." - Bob Baker

that was from one of Lee's 1 inch punches
 
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Why the hell are you guys talking about Bruce Lee vs. Fedor? Why don't you get on to something relevant like my dad can beat up your dad, or who's better, Ultimate Warrior or Jake the Snake Robers.
 
You couldn't be on Fedor's nuts any more if you were pubes.

So basically you're saying all of the top UFC HW's are trash? So who are your top 5 HW's? And it can't be:

1) Fedor
2) Fedor
3) Fedor
4) Fedor
5) Fedor

I'm not saying UFC's HWs are trash. I'm saying that person has no right to say Fedor has not fought competition when NONE OF THOSE UFC HWS have fought top competition in comparison.

And no, I don't put him #1-#5.

Skillwise and not counting belts I see the world rankings as:

1. Fedor
2. JDS
3. Carwin
4. Barnett
5. Overeem
6. Cain
7. Werdum
8. Big Nog
9. Brock
10. Mir

Based on recent accomplishments and wins:

1. Fedor
2. JDS
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. Brock
6. Overeem
7. Big Nog

too lazy to think of 8, 9 and 10 now.
 
Why the hell are you guys talking about Bruce Lee vs. Fedor? Why don't you get on to something relevant like my dad can beat up your dad, or who's better, Ultimate Warrior or Jake the Snake Robers.

Ricky the Dragon Steamboat was better than both of them until jake the Snake broke his neck!

🙁
 
Hilarious, Bruce would tear any MMA dude a new asshole

Opinion

I don't care about a size difference.

So you don't care about a critical, vital variable that vastly determines the outcome.. smart.

Yes, that usually means a lot but Lee wasn't a normal dude in any aspect.

Bruce Lee was a great contributor to the foundation of MMA and a physical specimen. However he was not a combat fighter, only competed in amateur tournaments against local karatakas ( not world class ).

He trained punching and kicking using a 300lb heavy bag.

Myth. The videos I've seen it was a fairly lean boxing bag.

His speed was also considerably faster than anyone in MMA.

How do you know? Do you watch MMA on a regular basis to provide a comparison? Have you timed every MMA fighters punches alongside Bruce Lee's?

Hell he punched faster than Mayweater, and Floyd would make any dude in MMA look silly in a boxing match.

How do you know he punched faster than Mayweather? Pacquiao is faster than Mayweather and likely much faster than Bruce.

Dunno if they're true or just stories, but I've heard a couple of times Bruce knocked the heavy bag off the hook it was on

Bags don't fight back. Let's see Bruce take on Brett Rogers or HMC, Mark Hunt in his chin prime. Punching a bag isn't going to prove anything, and Fedor more than likely has more power considering he's simply larger and abnormally fast for a HW.

, Mind you be trained on 300lbs bags, which would be the equivelent to him fighting Giant Silva or another SHW in Japan.

Dude.. Bruce Lee fought air molecules and heavy bags. Bags do not fight back. It's not equivalent because Bruce Lee isn't used to knocking out people.

Bruce was very well versed in fighting, sure most of his were street fights, but he's up there with Chuck Norris.

Dude, just because you saw Chuck vs Bruce in some karate flick during your childhood doesn't mean they were the best fighters. Chuck was a world class karataka but he'd get his ass kicked easily by any modern fighter in his weight class.

And in his prime Chuck would put anyone in MMA to sleep with a kick.

Fedor is used to countering Cro Cop, Fedor would curbstomp Chuck.

Bruce Vs Fedor would look like Cro Cop Vs Kimbo Slice.

No, it would look like Fedor vs Bruce and Bruce would die.

Fedor would stand little chance, Bruce was stronger and much faster.

Fedor is much stronger and faster for his weight. Bruce wouldn't pack any power to phase Fedor.


Imagine a dude training on a 300lb bag with 1000 kicks a day.

Keep day dreaming about Bruce. I can actually watch real life fights Fedor was in, Fedor performs stuff equal to what Bruce does in movies in actual fights.

He generated more power in 1 inch than most fighters can using their entire body. Dude was a freak.

If Fedor practiced the principles of that punch he'd most likely generate more power.

"I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable." - Bob Baker

that was from one of Lee's 1 inch punches

Who the hell is Bob Baker? Some 150 lb white dude? Fedor knocks out 200-300 lbs monsters and makes them regret ever stepping into the ring/cage.

I don't care about some random guy's reaction to getting punched, Fedor would kill any normal person he punched.
 
I don't understand this thread. It's almost like I walked into a thread about roy jones jr back before he lost decisively several times. Same arguments on both sides... let's just all agree that it would be so much better for everyone to see Fedor take on some of the names on Woosta's top ten list. Thank fully it will happen tomorrow night.
 
I don't understand this thread. It's almost like I walked into a thread about roy jones jr back before he lost decisively several times. Same arguments on both sides... let's just all agree that it would be so much better for everyone to see Fedor take on some of the names on Woosta's top ten list. Thank fully it will happen tomorrow night.

RJJ was a beast. My favorite boxer behind Tyson. Love seeing him troll boxers around and embarass them.
 
Only a fool or someone who doesn’t know anything about MMA would say Fedor hasn’t fought top competition; clearly he has…just not recently. I think he probably is still the best heavyweight, but no one knows because he’s been fighting in a second rate organization. Love or hate Dana White, the UFC has the most talent collectively, and in some divisions the disparity is glaring…like HW.

Werdum is a step up from what Fedor’s been fighting, but still I don’t know if I’d even put him in my top 10 worldwide. I’m looking forward to this fight tomorrow. Should be entertaining at least.
 
Fedor has accomplishments that have earned him his place in the history of the sport. However, the problem is that, the ranking of the recent fighters when they faced him, does not tell the whole story.

To elaborate a bit: Had any of Fedor's last 8 opponents, looked like great fighters against anyone not named Fedor, there would be far less criticism. Instead, all have clearly been on the way out, at the time they met up with him (just take a look at their records, besides Rogers). And in Rogers case, the jury is still out. If he cannot post a W against a quality opponent next outing, he will be on a 3 fight skid. Which is why arguing Fedor's strength of comp, on rankings alone, is not so cut and dry.

Make no mistake though, the names thrown out as capable of dethroning Fedor, have less impressive resumes. But, the reason they are compelling match ups, is because they are considered by most observers, to be getting better with every fight, or at their peak.

Werdum would be a damned good win though. It is not as though he is old and fading. He has been fighting quality comp for years, and not just crushing no name cans.

Myself, I am pumped about the Le v. Smith rematch.
 
No doubt Fedor is on the downside of his career, but it's a list of wins I doubt anyone will ever come close to. It's crazy people compare him to Brock when Brock is 4/1. Heck the early betting line doesn't even have Brock as much of a favor in his next fight.

If people want to compare Fedor to UFC champs, the obvious choice would be Big Nog. Big Nog is a well known an respected former UFC Champ. In his prime, Noguiera was considered one of the best grapplers in the world. Even though he was a UFC Champ, he's still well know for his 2 LOSSES to Fedor. As Noguiera is one of only 2 people to survive fighting Fedor without getting submitted or KO.

Not only does he have a uniquely impressive MMA record, he also has won international Judo and world Sambo championships.
 
This might be the stupidest thread I've ever read on Anandtech. Some goofball Fedor nutrider comparing him to movie characters? Are you kidding me? Look at the gut on that fat slob Fedor. He'd get killed fighting legit heavyweights - that's why he ducks them and fights freak show characters like Hong Man Choi - the same guy who fought Jose Canseco. Overeem would kill Fedor, but we'll never see it because Fedor will line up some scrub to fight next. Fedor will keep ducking the UFC for the same reason.
 
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