watch snobs, who makes a nice "time piece"?

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
~$5k, $10k tops.

What kind of clothing would you be wearing it with? And how often? To what sort of occasions, or casual?

business casual, jacket and tie events, meetings with people of importance, etc.

Jacket and tie? People of importance? This sounds like another of your polls, which you try to post 3-4x a day.

How about this, pick a watch like "people of importance" do: ignorant of brand, but knowledgeable of appearance. It either speakfor itself or it doesn't. You know or you don't. We can't tell you what kind of watch to buy.

awww... do i annoy you? :(

Yes.

i'm sowwie :(
:gift:
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: Mo0o
The whole point of having a 5k watch is to own a 5k watch.
I must disagree. Some people can appreciate the elegance of a beautifully made watch. Such as how an automatic watch can keep time so well and accurately. Owning a $5k watch to own a $5k watch does make you a poser.

There are plenty of watches significantly cheaper than 5k that look pretty damn good and tell time just as well. Hell, a 5 dollar casio can tell time well enough for any practical purpose.

Lets face it, this isn't the 19th century. Telling time isn't what a watch does anymore. I mean, it might, but it is primarily a piece of jewelry. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, the winning argument is that a quartz watch keeps time more accurately than an automatic or manual movement.

Maybe I'm missing the point, but it's about wearing what you like. As any other piece of jewelry, it's there to boost your confidence.
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
There are plenty of watches significantly cheaper than 5k that look pretty damn good and tell time just as well.

I couldn't agree more. I picked up a watch from the Swatch Irony series which looks great and I don't have to worry about damaging. In my collection I also have a replica Bulgari, which looks like a $5k watch. It has been appraised as such until the backing was removed.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: Mo0o
There are plenty of watches significantly cheaper than 5k that look pretty damn good and tell time just as well.

I couldn't agree more. I picked up a watch from the Swatch Irony series which looks great and I don't have to worry about damaging. In my collection I also have a replica Bulgari, which looks like a $5k watch. It has been appraised as such until the backing was removed.

Right, so the whole point of paying $5k for a watch is to show that you can afford to pay $5k for the watch. It's a status symbol more than anything. So it's a little ghetto to buy a fake to pass off as a status symbol
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Right, so the whole point of paying $5k for a watch is to show that you can afford to pay $5k for the watch. It's a status symbol more than anything. So it's a little ghetto to buy a fake to pass off as a status symbol

Why waste money if no one would ever be the wiser?
 

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"rolex, tag, seiko, breitling, cartier, omega"

Those are watches that rich young kids wear (Beside Seiko. Seiko is what rich junior highschool kids wanna wear.)
If you want to be a one of those pretentious snobs, those watches are fine. If you want the real game, Philip Patek, and Vacheron Constantin.

 
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Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Right, so the whole point of paying $5k for a watch is to show that you can afford to pay $5k for the watch. It's a status symbol more than anything. So it's a little ghetto to buy a fake to pass off as a status symbol

Why waste money if no one would ever be the wiser?

what are your thoughts on pirating software, music and movies?
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
what are your thoughts on pirating software, music and movies?

I do all of the above, because it's rare for something to actually be worth the price they charge, but mostly because I'm too cheap to spend money on something I'll probably only use/watch a few times.

If they produced vinyl of music I truly love, I would jump on them in a heartbeat. Not to say I don't buy hard copies of music/movies I enjoy (I have an extensive collection of both, evenly divided between what's on my computer and what's on my shelf).
 
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Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
what are your thoughts on pirating software, music and movies?

I do all of the above, because it's rare for something to actually be worth the price they charge, but mostly because I'm too cheap to spend money on something I'll probably only use/watch a few times.

If they produced vinyl of music I truly love, I would jump on them in a heartbeat. Not to say I don't buy hard copies of music/movies I enjoy (I have an extensive collection of both, evenly divided between what's on my computer and what's on my shelf).

ok, it all makes sense now.
not judging. just asking to see what your perspective is, and now it makes sense on why you recommend "replicas".
 

Descartes

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I love watches. One of the gifts to myself after achieving some success was to buy a nice watch. I wanted a classy piece that was subdued enough that most people wouldn't know what it was, but something that would last a lifetime that I could give my children/grandchildren.

So, right now I have three primary pieces:

1) Rolex Explorer I
2) Omega Seamaster
3) Nomos Ludwig

I love my Rolex, but for the price there are watches to be had with equal interest in the movement, equal history and interesting style. My Nomos Ludwig is a beautiful watch, imo, classic and with an in-house movement.

Some excellent options would also be IWC, Panerai and other German manufacturers (e.g. Dornblueth & Sohn). These are classic timepieces that will last you a lifetime. Lange makes some of the most beautiful watches I've ever seen, but they can exceed $20k+.

I am not a fan of Breitling, Cartier or any of the other mainstream brands. Too obvious, too little character. This is also true for the more obvious Rolexes, imo, which is why I bought an Explorer.

You'll get a lot of hate for spending a lot on a watch. If you're looking for bling, none of my suggestions will be of interest. If you have any horological interest at all, you'll visit TimeZone, educate yourself a bit and pick a watch created by artisans that care about their craft. That is the real point, after all, not whether or not someone realizes you're wearing something the price of some cars on your wrist.

imo

[edit]I didn't even read your OP before I posted. For a pretentious snob, you can feel free to ignore my post.[/edit]
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
ok, it all makes sense now.
not judging. just asking to see what your perspective is, and now it makes sense on why you recommend "replicas".

I recommend replicas to people who don't know and don't care to know anything about a watch. I can show off a $200 replica to someone who thinks it's a $4000 watch. It works as a status symbol just as well as an authentic.
 
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Originally posted by: Descartes
I love watches. One of the gifts to myself after achieving some success was to buy a nice watch. I wanted a classy piece that was subdued enough that most people wouldn't know what it was, but something that would last a lifetime that I could give my children/grandchildren.

So, right now I have three primary pieces:

1) Rolex Explorer I
2) Omega Seamaster
3) Nomos Ludwig

I love my Rolex, but for the price there are watches to be had with equal interest in the movement, equal history and interesting style. My Nomos Ludwig is a beautiful watch, imo, classic and with an in-house movement.

Some excellent options would also be IWC, Panerai and other German manufacturers (e.g. Dornblueth & Sohn). These are classic timepieces that will last you a lifetime. Lange makes some of the most beautiful watches I've ever seen, but they can exceed $20k+.

I am not a fan of Breitling, Cartier or any of the other mainstream brands. Too obvious, too little character. This is also true for the more obvious Rolexes, imo, which is why I bought an Explorer.

You'll get a lot of hate for spending a lot on a watch. If you're looking for bling, none of my suggestions will be of interest. If you have any horological interest at all, you'll visit TimeZone, educate yourself a bit and pick a watch created by artisans that care about their craft. That is the real point, after all, not whether or not someone realizes you're wearing something the price of some cars on your wrist.

imo

[edit]I didn't even read your OP before I posted. For a pretentious snob, you can feel free to ignore my post.[/edit]

i like that rolex. i believe it was the same one i saw last year while in the bahamas, but it had a blue face instead of black. about $2.5k or so iirc?
i was tempted to buy it because it was tax/duty free, but i wasn't sure if it was really a good deal or not despite the tax savings.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Descartes
I love watches. One of the gifts to myself after achieving some success was to buy a nice watch. I wanted a classy piece that was subdued enough that most people wouldn't know what it was, but something that would last a lifetime that I could give my children/grandchildren.

So, right now I have three primary pieces:

1) Rolex Explorer I
2) Omega Seamaster
3) Nomos Ludwig

I love my Rolex, but for the price there are watches to be had with equal interest in the movement, equal history and interesting style. My Nomos Ludwig is a beautiful watch, imo, classic and with an in-house movement.

Some excellent options would also be IWC, Panerai and other German manufacturers (e.g. Dornblueth & Sohn). These are classic timepieces that will last you a lifetime. Lange makes some of the most beautiful watches I've ever seen, but they can exceed $20k+.

I am not a fan of Breitling, Cartier or any of the other mainstream brands. Too obvious, too little character. This is also true for the more obvious Rolexes, imo, which is why I bought an Explorer.

You'll get a lot of hate for spending a lot on a watch. If you're looking for bling, none of my suggestions will be of interest. If you have any horological interest at all, you'll visit TimeZone, educate yourself a bit and pick a watch created by artisans that care about their craft. That is the real point, after all, not whether or not someone realizes you're wearing something the price of some cars on your wrist.

imo

[edit]I didn't even read your OP before I posted. For a pretentious snob, you can feel free to ignore my post.[/edit]

i like that rolex. i believe it was the same one i saw a few years back while in the bahamas, but it had a blue face instead of black. about $2.5k or so iirc?
i was tempted to buy it because it was tax free, but i wasn't sure if it was really a good deal or not.

You can get it for $2.5k on the used market. Retail will run you around $3700 I think. I don't remember. If you saw it for $2.5k, that was a pretty good deal.

My interest now lends itself to people that do their own movement manufacturing, and I'm not talking about ETA. Glashütte makes some great watches as well.

Have you seen the Lange? If I wanted to have my wife kill me, that would be my watch of choice. The Lange 1 is a classic, and on the used market I think it can be had for maybe $12k.
 
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Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
ok, it all makes sense now.
not judging. just asking to see what your perspective is, and now it makes sense on why you recommend "replicas".

I recommend replicas to people who don't know and don't care to know anything about a watch. I can show off a $200 replica to someone who thinks it's a $4000 watch. It works as a status symbol just as well as an authentic.

i may not know anything about watches, but i like knowing what i purchased is the real deal, won't break or rust when i'm rinsing my hands under the sink.
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i may not know anything about watches, but i like knowing what i purchased is the real deal, won't break or rust when i'm rinsing my hands under the sink.

You misunderstand replicas entirely. They're still well made.

Shit, I haven't even had a cheap watch rust or break while in the field. Maybe I'm just lucky.
 

yllus

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There are some for-real timepiece aficionados here and I'm not one of them so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I don't think Tag Heuer, Cartier and Seiko are in the class of Rolex, Breitling and Omega.

I'm actually really curious now as to what's considered the top three watch brands in terms of exclusivity/wow factor. Patek Philippe? IWC?
 

Net

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i've been to china. you can get a copy that, unless you know what to look for, you can't tell the difference. they even use the same material.
 
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Originally posted by: Descartes
You can get it for $2.5k on the used market. Retail will run you around $3700 I think. I don't remember. If you saw it for $2.5k, that was a pretty good deal.

My interest now lends itself to people that do their own movement manufacturing, and I'm not talking about ETA. Glashütte makes some great watches as well.

Have you seen the Lange? If I wanted to have my wife kill me, that would be my watch of choice. The Lange 1 is a classic, and on the used market I think it can be had for maybe $12k.

hmmm... it may not be the same one. i don't recall much about the watch itself other than the relatively small size (i have small wrists so i like smaller watches), and the words 'oyster perpetual' on it.
is that common rolex terminology?
 

Alone

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Originally posted by: yllus
I'm actually really curious now as to what's considered the top three watch brands in terms of exclusivity/wow factor. Patek Philippe? IWC?

Ulysee Nardin and Journe should be up there.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Alone
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i may not know anything about watches, but i like knowing what i purchased is the real deal, won't break or rust when i'm rinsing my hands under the sink.

You misunderstand replicas entirely. They're still well made.

Shit, I haven't even had a cheap watch rust or break while in the field. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Indeed. Many of the movements in the replicas (will still run you ~$500 from what I've seen) have quality movements. I forget who manufactures them. I know ETA is a big manufacturer in a lot of the Coach, Kenneth Cole, etc. type watches though.