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Wasted 2.5 hours interviewing only to be lowballed :(

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
I spent 45 minutes driving to downtown L.A., 2-1/2 hours interviewing, $12 in parking, and an hour driving home in 405 gridlock. At the end the engineering director asked what my salary requirements were. I said I would prefer that he tell me what range they were looking at. He said $75k. I said I was thinking $110k. They said they could maybe get it to 80ish. Blah. Work 50% more hours than I do now, for less money, and have to deal with freeway traffic everyday. Guess I'll keep my current job for now.
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heh i did that myself once.

went into Chicago for a job. drove an hour in paid $15 for parking had ~ hour interview to be offered a pay that was about %20 lower then i was already making and i would have longer hours.

i got rather upset. because we had 2 phone interviews first and i told him what my MINIMUM salary would have to be. which he said I would make easy. I asked him why he lied to me on the phone about the salary. He didn't say anything. I thanked him for wasting my time and money on a worthless interview.

They called me back about a week latter offering me what i was making. i told them to shove it up there a$$ and don't call me back unless its for XX amount (double what i would have taken). needless to say i never got it. heh
 
I'd give my left nut for an 80k/yr. salary right now. I'm currently making ~45k as a CAD technician and working a night job at Stop and Shop.

Although hopefully by the time I'm done with school, I'll be making a wee bit more as a software engineer 😀
 
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You make over 75k and you are bitching about paying $12 for parking.
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Come on, $12 is a lot for 2.5 hours parking no matter what 😀 I was kind of put off by the big sign this company had on the reception desk reading WE DON'T VALIDATE.
 
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You make over 75k and you are bitching about paying $12 for parking.
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Exactly. He is complaining about only being offered 80K when there is a guy in FS/FT that has to ask for donations so he and his family can eat and not be thrown out on the streets. Merry Christmas.
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That is unfortunate, but not my problem. There are lots of people in the world less fortunate, financially, than I am. I am well aware of that but I'm not going to help all of them. I donate quite a bit to various charities but never to individuals.
 
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

Well its nothing personal I just find that most posts where someone mentions how much they make are mainly boastful and attention whoring. The point of his situation could have been stated without mentioning monatary figures and be just have been as effective. I also feel the same way about the IQ, benchpress and sat score threads and I figure about 30% of numbers mentioned are true fiction. Maybe its just me.
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Yes, but it's easier for most people to simply say what they really mean instead of consciously making an effort to hide the details.
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I considered writing salary "X" and X+40 or whatever but it looked pretty stupid.
 
Out of curiosity PipBoy, how many years of college, and how many years of work experience?

I make a prety good living too, but it's with a computer science degree and a decade of work experience.

I wonder how many of the people posting "I'd skin a puffin to make $75K!" are willing to put in the amount of work needed to get the degree and do the ongoing learning needed to work in a field that offers that kind of salary?
 
Originally posted by: redly1
Originally posted by: BlipBlop
be a lawyer. In manhattan the start out of school at $125k/yr + bonus.
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And all you have to do is sell your soul!!
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I know a lawyer in Manhattan. His standard of living is crap, because the cost of living is enormous. He lives in a studio apartment because it's all he can afford. And the insurance on his BMW is through the roof.
 
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You make over 75k and you are bitching about paying $12 for parking.
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youd be surprised. a lot of rich people are the ones who are much more conservative than poorer folks. the people living around here make upwards $200k and are heartbroken at buying soda from vending machines, would walk double the distance to svae on parking, wear cheap clothes, and ask for water only in resturaunts.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Out of curiosity PipBoy, how many years of college, and how many years of work experience?
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B.S. in mechanical engineering from RPI, 8 years engineering & management experience.
 
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Most decent engineers who work with something mildly specialized make 75k+ a year...after 4 year out of school I was making $40/hr doing control system engineering and I got paid 1.5 or 2X for overtime (my boss let me work as much or as little OT as I wanted...it was nice).

I'm in grad school now.

For all you mechE, ChemE, IdustE, and EE's out there...I highly recommend you look into doing control system work...it is fun and big money. I was just starting to get good...I knew some fellas who made $80+/hr working for a company and I knew guys who made $150-200/hr working for themselves.
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While those numbers are quite possible in certain areas of the nation or specialties, I wouldn't count on it being the norm😉 Heck even Rockwell(Allen-Bradley) only charges in the neighborhood of $150/hr for Controls engineering labor(depending on the customer😉) We had a guy leave our office to start his own Controls and software engineering company with a freind of his. If he sustains his current level of business he'll be pushing the $200K/yr mark for his half of a 2 man opperation. Now ofcourse that doesn't take into ANY taxes or other expenses but he'll most definately make more than he did working for someone.

Sukhoi - Control systems is quite a broad description but it mainly has to do with machine/process control and automation. There are different ways to look at it though as there are different levels. There is plant level, board level, and software level. If you are in mechanical Engineering then plant level may be more up your alley but I wouldn't dismiss looking at circuit control(board level) or software. It all depends on how deep you want to go into the process. I work for a place that mainly does plant level automation but we have been a part of some software side things too...to a point. We mainly hire EEs but we also have quite a few MEs on staff(even had a ChemE and a NukeE working for us doing controls). If you know how Ohm's law and can think logically you can do what we do. Now it takes much more specialized training to go in deeper than what we do.

Now my explaination may be a bit generic or undetailed but process/machine control is what is commonly refered to as Controls System Engineering...or atleast that's what people keep telling me - the CAD monkey. But miniMUNCH is right - it can be quite fun...but not always😉 If I had a E piece of paper I'd be doing controls...but alas I'm just a lowly CAD monkey who does most of their work for them.

CkG
 
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Most decent engineers who work with something mildly specialized make 75k+ a year...after 4 year out of school I was making $40/hr doing control system engineering and I got paid 1.5 or 2X for overtime (my boss let me work as much or as little OT as I wanted...it was nice).

I'm in grad school now.

For all you mechE, ChemE, IdustE, and EE's out there...I highly recommend you look into doing control system work...it is fun and big money. I was just starting to get good...I knew some fellas who made $80+/hr working for a company and I knew guys who made $150-200/hr working for themselves.
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While those numbers are quite possible in certain areas of the nation or specialties, I wouldn't count on it being the norm😉 Heck even Rockwell(Allen-Bradley) only charges in the neighborhood of $150/hr for Controls engineering labor(depending on the customer😉) We had a guy leave our office to start his own Controls and software engineering company with a freind of his. If he sustains his current level of business he'll be pushing the $200K/yr mark for his half of a 2 man opperation. Now ofcourse that doesn't take into ANY taxes or other expenses but he'll most definately make more than he did working for someone.

Sukhoi - Control systems is quite a broad description but it mainly has to do with machine/process control and automation. There are different ways to look at it though as there are different levels. There is plant level, board level, and software level. If you are in mechanical Engineering then plant level may be more up your alley but I wouldn't dismiss looking at circuit control(board level) or software. It all depends on how deep you want to go into the process. I work for a place that mainly does plant level automation but we have been a part of some software side things too...to a point. We mainly hire EEs but we also have quite a few MEs on staff(even had a ChemE and a NukeE working for us doing controls). If you know how Ohm's law and can think logically you can do what we do. Now it takes much more specialized training to go in deeper than what we do.

Now my explaination may be a bit generic or undetailed but process/machine control is what is commonly refered to as Controls System Engineering...or atleast that's what people keep telling me - the CAD monkey. But miniMUNCH is right - it can be quite fun...but not always😉 If I had a E piece of paper I'd be doing controls...but alas I'm just a lowly CAD monkey who does most of their work for them.

CkG
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Ah, thanks. My M&IE department's classes are these, these, and these. I have to take all 200-level ME courses as requirements. As my electives should I possibly look at taking ME 313, ME 388, and MFG E 320?
 
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