Washington Redskins plan to announce name change today, any guesses what it will be?

[IronWing]

Washington Foreskins should do.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Wait. "Washington Redskins" is a "nickname?"

What is the actual current name?

I think team names are officially called nicknames. Its probably just weird terminology.

That or the official one is much, much more racist 😛

 

[Ichinisan]

You left out transsexual slur, Italian slur, Polish slur, and several others.
I'd also note that I've never understood the "red skin" term. I've known a few american Indians over the years and none of them have appeared the least bit red to me. Even the famous Indians like Liz Warren don't appear to the least bit red.

I'm sure there is racial / geographical diversity among native American tribes. I've seen depictions with skin that appears red, but I'm not sure if they were authentic or manipulated. I'm a bit red/green colorblind, so I wouldn't know. Green traffic lights and paper money never actually look green to me.

 

[Ichinisan]

Allow me to simplify the issue for you folks having a tough time grasping it.

Would it be okay to name your team the "Black-Skins" ??? 🙄


EDIT: And on-topic .... I vote for "DC Hogs" 😀

If most interactions with black people involved black warriors that earned a reputation for being formidable opponents, they probably would have used a name like that for an actual sports team.

 

[Ichinisan]

Washington Indigenous People, rolls off the tongue. 🙂

Maybe "Washington Warriors" but it sounds too general.

 

[gill77]

Maybe "Washington Warriors" but it sounds too general.

SJW"s?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm sure there is racial / geographical diversity among native American tribes. I've seen depictions with skin that appears red, but I'm not sure if they were authentic or manipulated. I'm a bit red/green colorblind, so I wouldn't know. Green traffic lights and paper money never actually look green to me.

I get pretty damned tanned when I've been in the sun for more than a few hours over the course of a week. Not sure how 'red' it is but definitely more red than bronze.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Per my earlier point about not having a large enough voice:

Washington NFL team to announce retirement of 'Redskins' nickname, reveal new name Monday

Washington owner Daniel Snyder plans to announce the retirement of the \

www.usatoday.com

Snyder has long ignored requests of Native American tribes and other organizations to change the name because some deem the term offensive, citing the fact that the dictionary classifies it as a racial slur.
...
As the climate in the country has changed to a place of greater awareness of racial insensitivities, the Redskins name debate returned to the spotlight. A group of investors urged FedEx, Nike and Pepsi to join their fight to change the name. Meanwhile, reports surfaced that Washington’s minority owners also had encouraged Snyder to make a change. He had turned a deaf ear until FedEx, whose president and chairman Fred Smith owns a stake of the team, publicly demanded a change on July 2.

So yeah basically it took a rich white dude named Fred Smith to actually get them to change the name. Super.

 

[Herr Kutz]

you don't see the problem with using a racial slur as a teams name?

The only people "offended" by the name are white SJWs.

 

[IronWing]

Move the team to Florida and call it The Great Unwashed.

 

[PlanetJosh]

The Washington Shteren

That's trivia from the movie Men In Black 3. And fitting too because they're being put on the spot to come up with a believable name.

 

[zinfamous]

You left out transsexual slur, Italian slur, Polish slur, and several others.
I'd also note that I've never understood the "red skin" term. I've known a few american Indians over the years and none of them have appeared the least bit red to me. Even the famous Indians like Liz Warren don't appear to the least bit red.

we get it. asian people aren't really yellow and white people aren't really white.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The only people "offended" by the name are white SJWs.

That's false.

List of Washington Redskins name change advocates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tribes[edit]

• Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians[8]
• Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma[8]
• Comanche Nation of Oklahoma[8]
• The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation (Washington)[8]
• Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians (Michigan)
• Hoh Indian Tribe[9]
• Inter Tribal Council of Arizona[10]
• Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes[11][12]
• Juaneño Band of Mission Indians (California)[8]
• Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (Michigan)
• Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, Gun Lake Tribe (Michigan)[13]
• Menominee Tribe of Indians (Wisconsin)[8]
• Oneida Indian Nation (New York)[14]
• Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin[8]
• Osage Nation[15]
• Navajo Nation Council[16]
• Penobscot Nation[17]
• Poarch Band of Creek Indians[18]
• Rosebud Sioux (South Dakota)[19]
• Samish Indian Nation (Washington)[20]
• Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians (Michigan)[21]
• Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Idaho)[22]
• Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota)
• The Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation(North Dakota)[23]
• United South and Eastern Tribes (USET)[24]

Organizations[edit]

• Advocates for American Indian Children (California)
• American Indian Mental Health Association (Minnesota)
• American Indian Movement[25]
• American Indian Opportunities Industrialization Center of San Bernardino County
• American Indian Student Services at the Ohio State University
• American Indian High Education Consortium
• American Indian College Fund
• Americans for Indian Opportunity
• Association on American Indian Affairs
• Buncombe County Native American Inter-tribal Association (North Carolina)
• Capitol Area Indian Resources (Sacramento, CA)
• Concerned American Indian Parents (Minnesota)
• Council for Indigenous North Americans (University of Southern Maine)
• Eagle and Condor Indigenous Peoples' Alliance
• First Peoples Worldwide
• Fontana Native American Indian Center, Inc. (California)
• Governor's Interstate Indian Council
• Greater Tulsa Area Indian Affairs Commission[26]
• Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council (Wisconsin)
• HONOR – Honor Our Neighbors Origins and Rights
• Kansas Association for Native American Education
• Maryland Commission on Indian Affairs
• Medicine Wheel Inter-tribal Association (Louisiana)
• Minnesota Indian Education Association
• National Congress of American Indians (NCAI)
• National Indian Child Welfare Association
• National Indian Education Association
• National Indian Youth Council
• National Native American Law Student Association
• Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party
• Native American Finance Officers Association (NAFOA)[27]
• Native American Journalists Association[28]
• Native American Indian Center of Central Ohio
• Native American Rights Fund (NARF)
• Native Voice Network
• Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs
• Nottawaseppi Huron Band of Potawatomi (Michigan)
• Not Your Mascots, Inc.
• North Carolina Commission of Indian Affairs
• North Dakota Indian Education Association
• Office of Native American Ministry, Diocese of Grand Rapids (Michigan)
• Ohio Center for Native American Affairs
• San Bernardino/Riverside Counties Native American Community Council
• Seminole Nation of Oklahoma
• Society of American Indian Government Employees (SAIGE)
• Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americas
• Southern California Indian Center
• St. Cloud State University – American Indian Center
• Tennessee Chapter of the National Coalition for the Preservation of Indigenous Cultures
• Tennessee Commission of Indian Affairs
• Tennessee Native Veterans Society
• Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism[29]
• The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation
• Unified Coalition for American Indian Concerns, Virginia
• The United Indian Nations of Oklahoma
• Virginia American Indian Cultural Resource Center
• Wisconsin Indian Education Association
• WIEA "Indian" Mascot and Logo Taskforce (Wisconsin)
• Woodland Indian Community Center-Lansing (Michigan)
• Youth "Indian" Mascot and Logo Task force (Wisconsin)

 

[zinfamous]

I live in Minnesota. Are the "Vikings" next?
Anyway, I don't think the Redskins name was meant to be offensive when they chose it, but the term has taken on that connotation, and I think it should be changed.
I also think some of the statues (especially confederate ones) should be taken down and the military bases should be renamed. However, with all the other problems we have in the country right now (Covid, gun violence, unemployment, police violence, etc.) all the attention does seem a bit....overblown.

I mean, they were founded and named by a staunch segregationist, so I'd say it's pretty difficult to divorce that from the intent of being offensive. ...in a sense that offense was extremely normal. It wasn't considered as such, being part of the generations long winning/subjugating class, it is simply understood as acceptable.

Doesn't mean that people aren't offended then, or now, all the same.

and again, "all the problems we have now" THAT IS THE SAME FUCKING THING that has been said DOZENS OF TIMES over the last 4+ decades in the movement to change that name. It's fucking "never the right time" for the ownership class to ever engage "the other people" in egalitarianism. You will only ever find another excuse for any damn time the subject comes up.

So get the fuck over it, no one gives a shit, the name will change and you'll move on. All these fake conservatives and white power assholes that take offense at every inch the world changes to be more inclusive aren't going to see a single ounce of their fucking privilege get stripped away, simply as society continues what it always continues to do: progress.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I mean, they were founded and named by a staunch segregationist, so I'd say it's pretty difficult to divorce that from the intent of being offensive. ...in a sense that offense was extremely normal. It wasn't considered as such, being part of the generations long winning/subjugating class, it is simply understood as acceptable.

Doesn't mean that people aren't offended then, or now, all the same.

and again, "all the problems we have now" THAT IS THE SAME FUCKING THING that has been said DOZENS OF TIMES over the last 4+ decades in the movement to change that name. It's fucking "never the right time" for the ownership class to ever engage "the other people" in egalitarianism. You will only ever find another excuse for any damn time the subject comes up.

So get the fuck over it, no one gives a shit, the name will change and you'll move on. All these fake conservatives and white power assholes that take offense at every inch the world changes to be more inclusive aren't going to see a single ounce of their fucking privilege get stripped away, simply as society continues what it always continues to do: progress.

lol people get upset with this shit because it's just woke virtue signaling. It accomplishes nothing and addresses nothing.

Let's talk about helping Native Americans. Let's talk about addressing our drug/alcohol addiction issues with treatment centers. Let's talk about increasing education, digging people out of poverty (permanently, not temporarily), and talk about ways we get any Americans into solid-pay permanent employment.


But removing statues and changing team names? Does nothing other than annoy people. It's virtue signaling from mommy and daddy's mansion on their ipad. Like I said, no actual Native Americans give a shit about this - mostly because they probably have much more important shit to worry about.... And speaking on-behalf of them is just insulting and racist.

 

[purbeast0]

I'm probably the biggest Redskins fan on these boards and I personally don't give a shit what they change the name to. 3 years or so ago I'd argue to the death to keep it. But now I don't give a shit. I just hope they keep the color scheme, but I'd be okay if they do change it, if they changed it to the red/white/blue like the 3 other DC teams all use.

 

[zinfamous]

lol people get upset with this shit because it's just woke virtue signaling.

Let's talk about helping Native Americans. Let's talk about addressing our drug/alcohol addiction issues with treatment centers. Let's talk about increasing education, digging people out of poverty (permanently, not temporarily), and talk about ways we get any Americans into solid-pay permanent employment.


But removing statues and changing team names? Does nothing other than annoy people. It's virtue signaling from mommy and daddy's mansion on their ipad. Like I said, no actual Native Americans give a shit about this - mostly because they probably have much more important shit to worry about.... And speaking on-behalf of them is just insulting and racist.

can you type a single fucking sentence without the word "virtue signaling" in it?

are you capable of forming a single thought that actual people with actual life experience and the ability to read beyond a 4th grade level are going to be willing to engage you in?

that's the thing: you might occasionally stumble into some worthwhile thoughts and arguments, but it's very difficult to get anywhere because your language is loaded with unending TRS and TRP meaningless phrases that really do nothing more than out your primary interest which is personal bias fulfillment. ...and because that is how your brain works, you simply can't absorb the plain fact that a lot of other people absolutely do not engage in your method of seeking (only the) information that can defend your unshakable biases.

...that's why you don't get the responses that you think you deserve. It's like a broken record of playground semantics and it's honestly not worth anyone's time.

when you use phrases like this, all it does is identify your profound disinterest in the actual topic under discussion. You've defined a conclusion that makes sense to you and are forever uninterested in actually understanding dick about it--so challenging your core beliefs. This is what clever phrases are for: masking your ignorance. It's easier than confronting personal ignorance.

 

[Spacehead]

I think this stuff is so ridiculous. Freaking SJWs getting offended at everything and the worse part is, they are winning.

They should probably make sure the new name does not have Washington in it either just to play it safe. I'm sure if you dig far enough into history, someone with the last name Washington probably did something bad at some point, or was somehow related to someone who did.

There's been talk of doing this for quite awhile but nothing ever came of it. Sponsors are pulling out now so that's probably the biggest reason. That & all the turmoil here i guess it's the right time.
There are some that are pulling down statues of George now too but you'd have to change the name of the city too.

Heck all sports team names should just be numbers and letters to be safe and cover all bases. D349 vs E832 are playing tonight, gonna be a good game!

You would think that would be safe but then there's this:
The Letter U and the Numeral 2
OK, the lawsuit wasn't really about the "U" & the "2" but it did start it

Wait. "Washington Redskins" is a "nickname?"

What is the actual current name?

Washington Redskins is the team name it's just the "Redskins" part they want changed. Some might consider the mascot part the nickname of a team.

Move the team to Florida and call it The Great Unwashed.

Florida Man...

 

[sdifox]

How about the Washington Beta Cucks... it seems somehow fitting.

Washington Red Square

 

[Captante]

The only people "offended" by the name THAT THE MEDIA PAYS MUCH ATTENTION TO are white SJWs.

Ftfy.

You did accomplish one positive thing with your post surprisingly ... thanks for the absolutely perfect example of how to be part of the problem.

 

[gill77]

I'm not really a Skins fan, but there have been a bunch of them. They have been around for almost a century and have played 1,000 games. Generations have lived and died enjoying their favorite football team and probably given much more thought to first downs than bows and arrows.

If a minority can force arbitrary change to an institution that has been around for a third of our country's existence, they might not just stop there. They may want to start censoring people or even tear down statutes.

Some day they may come after something that has more significance to you than somebody else's football team.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm not really a Skins fan, but there have been a bunch of them. They have been around for almost a century and have played 1,000 games. Generations have lived and died enjoying their favorite football team and probably given much more thought to first downs than bows and arrows.

If a minority can force arbitrary change to an institution that has been around for a third of our country's existence, they might not just stop there. They may want to start censoring people or even tear down statutes.

Some day they may come after something that has more significance to you than somebody else's football team.

Like the continent they lived on for thousands of years? Like the culture that was demolished, then made a caricature for entertainment value and military naming conventions?

The irony. It's thick.

 

[ultimatebob]

Wow... this topic really went off the rails. I feel like I accidently clicked on the P&N forum again.

 

[shortylickens]

You left out transsexual slur, Italian slur, Polish slur, and several others.
I'd also note that I've never understood the "red skin" term. I've known a few american Indians over the years and none of them have appeared the least bit red to me. Even the famous Indians like Liz Warren don't appear to the least bit red.

How many pollocks does it take to screw in a light bulb?


THREE!!!!!!




HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

 

[shortylickens]

now wait a minute, I told it wrong.