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Was there a point to Lost In Translation...
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It doesn't make fun of Japanese people. This place (see sig) is completely foreign, and there are aspects of the culture and the people which are just completely bizarre. "Bizarre" does not mean "wrong" or "lesser" -- it just means "different", actually "very different". My wife and I found the movie very, very accurate with regard to how a Westerner feels when arriving in Japan without speaking the language, and the people who think Japan is all about bushido, samurai, manga/anime, sushi, and electronics are the ones who have no idea what Japan is really like (I was going to say karaoke, but that's true). I enjoy living here for the most part, but it really is strange.
Good movie.
Ketteringo
Banned
Sooo boring and no point. I almost bought it, good thing I watched it before I did or I would be pissed!!!
That is interesting, my wife is Japanese, and of course, I know many Japanese people. Never has anyone who is Japanese that I have talked with uses that term as an abbreviation, nor has anyone Japanese (whom I know) thinks that using the word "jap" is an acceptable way of saying japanese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
Originally posted by: poopygood
That is interesting, my wife is Japanese, and of course, I know many Japanese people. Never has anyone who is Japanese that I have talked with uses that term as an abbreviation, nor has anyone Japanese (whom I know) thinks that using the word "jap" is an acceptable way of saying japanese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
Why is Jew short for Jewish, but Jap isn't short for Japanese?
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: poopygood
That is interesting, my wife is Japanese, and of course, I know many Japanese people. Never has anyone who is Japanese that I have talked with uses that term as an abbreviation, nor has anyone Japanese (whom I know) thinks that using the word "jap" is an acceptable way of saying japanese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
Why is Jew short for Jewish, but Jap isn't short for Japanese?
Jew is short for Jewish, but in certain contexts (try saying it in German), it can be considered derogatory. That one falls under more of a context situation. "Jap", however, is most definitely a derogatory term historically as it was used extensively in WWII to refer to the Japanese who were enemies at the time. It falls in the same vein as Kraut for the Germans. Another similarly used derogatory term for the Japanese is Nip, short form of Nippon (Japan) which is a variation of the Japanese name for their country -- Nihon (that's phonetic).
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: poopygood
That is interesting, my wife is Japanese, and of course, I know many Japanese people. Never has anyone who is Japanese that I have talked with uses that term as an abbreviation, nor has anyone Japanese (whom I know) thinks that using the word "jap" is an acceptable way of saying japanese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
Why is Jew short for Jewish, but Jap isn't short for Japanese?
Interesting. You asked the question after he answered it. The reason is that Japanese people do not refer to themselves that way and find it offensive. Just because a word looks similar, does not mean it has the same connotation. I hope you are a young person because I don't think an adult should require an explanation here.
To the OP, I'm not sure how Lost In Translation makes fun of Japanese culture. Perhaps you perceived it that way because that's your reaction to Japanese culture. I thought this was a fairly simple and honest movie, though I imagine many people were confused at the lack of explosions and film cliches.
What's wrong with that?
I hope you're a young person because you didn't recognize my question was rhetorical.Originally posted by: CChaos
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: poopygood
That is interesting, my wife is Japanese, and of course, I know many Japanese people. Never has anyone who is Japanese that I have talked with uses that term as an abbreviation, nor has anyone Japanese (whom I know) thinks that using the word "jap" is an acceptable way of saying japanese.
It is a derogatory term IMO plain and simple.
Why is it that the word "ch1nk" is banned here at anand, it's just short for chinese.
Why is Jew short for Jewish, but Jap isn't short for Japanese?
Interesting. You asked the question after he answered it. The reason is that Japanese people do not refer to themselves that way and find it offensive. Just because a word looks similar, does not mean it has the same connotation. I hope you are a young person because I don't think an adult should require an explanation here.
To the OP, I'm not sure how Lost In Translation makes fun of Japanese culture. Perhaps you perceived it that way because that's your reaction to Japanese culture. I thought this was a fairly simple and honest movie, though I imagine many people were confused at the lack of explosions and film cliches.
FeathersMcGraw
Diamond Member
Strange, I figured a bittersweet movie about loneliness and isolation would have a lot of resonance for most of ATOT.
StageLeft
No Lifer
Was it as stupid as that other Bill Murray movie, that started with an R, that some people actually pretended to find enjoyable?
EDIT: Rushmore I mean. Damn was that every pointless. I didn't detest it quite as much as the royal tenanbaums, which bill murray was also in. I'm a slow learner, but now I won't watch movies like this.
EDIT: Rushmore I mean. Damn was that every pointless. I didn't detest it quite as much as the royal tenanbaums, which bill murray was also in. I'm a slow learner, but now I won't watch movies like this.
xospec1alk
Diamond Member
you know. i dont think it made fun of japanese people. i went there 2 months after i saw the movie, and things are pretty accurate. arcade pplaces are packed with young people. the bars are pretty cool there...sure the asian stereotype that asian men are short...i'm not but still...its all in good humor. people should just lighten up a little.
alkemyst
No Lifer
?!? I know of many older japanese people that will get visually bothered with the word JAP. Perhaps the youngest don't understand the word.
However, by your logic of using the usually shorter derogatory term: African American = ni...er?, then how about w0p, d@go, etc...all much shorter. Just because 'Jap' doesn't have the same weight as another derogatory term doesn't mean it's any less offensive to the people described by it.
If your wife is Japanese (mine is)...then the word Japanese should sort of be rather easy to type/write. It's harder for me to just type jap than the whole japan/japanese.
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