Was the 2012 election stolen?

[Moonbeam]

There is a story about an ugly Republican who grew up to be a Swam. That's the story you deniers need to read. You live in an ego definition and identification that is so small and so ugly you can't even imagine. But should that ego bubble ever collapse and really break, you will discover who you really are. Put that story deep in your psyche and smoke it. You fucking stinking turds are beautiful beyond your wildest imagining. It's a stinking ugly grubby worm that becomes a butterfly. Take wing, my dear dear friends. There are truths beyond your imagining. The kingdom of heaven IS within you. Trust me. I really do know.

 

[techs]

This thread, started by Boomerang, is the perfect example of why no one pays any attention to the looney right wingers anymore.

If Boomerang criticizes a thread you made, consider that a a badge of honor and proof that your thread has merit.


Unless of course its really all a spoof and all of Boomerangs threads are so bad that they will eventually come back to him. Boomerang, get it?

 

[boomerang]

That big seed of doubt is an extra growth in your head involving the right amygdala and the emotion of fear. You have a brain that is looking to experience a paranoid state for the sake of a chemical pleasure you get from a persecution complex. You can watch your friends in Iran do the same thing every year when they run down the streets beating themselves with whips. For the perverted there is only perverted pleasure.

Thank you for this information. I can always count on some wacko juvenile insults from you. I think it's just a knee-jerk reaction to information that makes you feel uncomfortable.

Is it safe?

 

[boomerang]

19,000 people didn't vote for Romney? Yes that's easily possible. I don't quite think you understand how insignificant that is.

Romney lost big. It's not a surprise to most people.

No, no I think you've misunderstood. I will type more slowly so you can better understand. The question raised by the author of the article I linked and then quoted in part relates to how 59 voting districts had zero votes for Romney. How that could have occured is what's in question.

If it's not something you're comfortable discussing I understand.

 

[techs]

http://lofi.forum.physorg.com/Martians-are-invading-earth_1443.html
Martians are secretly invading earth.
Has more validity than Boomerangs links or claims.

 

[boomerang]

Romney lost** Get over it**

We know that** The pure unadultered joy rests in that for the next four years we get to criticize Obama and his policies** We also get to revel in his failures**

Good times**

 

[zsdersw]

The pure unadultered joy rests in that for the next four years we get to criticize Obama and his policies** We also to revel in his failures**

And deny/denounce/downplay any successes

 

[Jhhnn]

We know that** The pure unadultered joy rests in that for the next four years we get to criticize Obama and his policies** We also to revel in his failures**

Good times**

And in that, you'll revel in the failures of the nation & its govt** If the people won't let you run it, you'll be damned if you'll let anybody else**

What about some patriotism from the loyal opposition, some acknowledgment that yes, we do need government?

 

[Moonbeam]

And deny/denounce/downplay any successes

Or hopefully prevent any success, no?

 

[blankslate]

Would the OP give a shit about electronic voting machines if Governor Romney won?

yeah****** let me try not to laugh****

I'm sure they were fine for him during the 2004 elections****

I don't disagree that voting machines with proprietary software is not a good idea, however**** Ask yourself this given how close the election went in 2004 are you willing to raise questions about all elections in which voting machines played a role?

 

[boomerang]

Would the OP give a shit about electronic voting machines if Governor Romney won?

yeah****** let me try not to laugh****

I'm sure they were fine for him during the 2004 elections****

I don't disagree that voting machines with proprietary software is not a good idea, however**** Ask yourself this given how close the election went in 2004 are you willing to raise questions about all elections in which voting machines played a role?

Ah, this old tired argument again** I've never understood if it's a half-hearted attempt at some form of deflection or if it's all rooted in that "fairness" movement that is sweeping the country**

The answer is yes, I am very willing to raise questions** We are little more than a banana republic without fair elections**

 

[boomerang]

And deny/denounce/downplay any successes

I see that you're embracing reality as it relates to our political system** It's a good first step**

 

[boomerang]

And in that, you'll revel in the failures of the nation & its govt** If the people won't let you run it, you'll be damned if you'll let anybody else**

What about some patriotism from the loyal opposition, some acknowledgment that yes, we do need government?

So if one is not a Democrat one is an Anarchist?

 

[randomrogue]

No, no I think you've misunderstood** I will type more slowly so you can better understand** The question raised by the author of the article I linked and then quoted in part relates to how 59 voting districts had zero votes for Romney** How that could have occured is what's in question**

If it's not something you're ***fortable discussing I understand**

Do you understand how incredibly unpopular Romney was?

 

[First]

So far zero substantiated evidence of any foul play. Certainly the corruption, if it exists (and there's no corroboration it does), should be rooted out.

Certainly, given the blowout that was the 2012 Presidential election, it would have had absolutely no bearing on the winner, as Obama won by well over 100 electoral votes and well over 3M in the popular vote.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

The election wasn't stolen.

It was given away.

 

[ericlp]

No, you can blame Fox News, Rush and the rest for giving the dems the election...

Don't forget about Romney!

 

[Socio]

Two 5th grade level pieces of education for you.

1. It's not "have got."
2. One of those little red dots (NYC) has more people than FORTY TWO of the states have. That little red dot represents as many people as the entire populations of New Mexico, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Alaska, and Wyoming COMBINED.

It's beyond retarded that you can't comprehend this. Then again, you were quick to believe that 140% of the population in multiple counties had voted, and that no RESPECTABLE source freaked out about it.

Why I have not been proven wrong, there was a plausible explanation that was based on purely speculative conjecture not fact.

The only comprehension problem around here is discerning between someone actually being wrong and just declared wrong.

Reminds me of how Left Wing MSM works, just keep saying it is wrong or he lies over and over and eventually everyone believes it.

 

[Theb]

Typical. A black man has something nice and white people wonder if he stole it.

 

[Steeplerot]

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/evidence-adds-up-election-was-stolen-2495088.html

The colors...much better,

The other way is red like a old German flag.

 

[Pens1566]

Why I have not been proven wrong, there was a plausible explanation that was based on purely speculative conjecture not fact.

The only comprehension problem around here is discerning between someone actually being wrong and just declared wrong.

Reminds me of how Left Wing MSM works, just keep saying it is wrong or he lies over and over and eventually everyone believes it.

Your "understanding" of the map you posted is enough to discredit you.

 

[Socio]

I think this guy is on the right track;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958274/posts

[SIZE=+1]How I think the election was stolen.[/SIZE]
Vanity | 11/11/12 | Tommy C

Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:59:11 AM by TommyC1

I believe that the election was stolen. All the signs pointed to a Romney/Ryan win. The enthusiasm was high in the GOP. The GOTV operation was excellent.

How then, did Obama win? I think they were running a sophisticated game of electronic vote stealing and ballot box stuffing.
What I am about to describe takes a lot of money. To me, one clue is the dog that didn’t bark: Soros. He was quiet during this election. Not a word from his puppets and minions. I vaguely thought this was odd. And now we know why. They had a stealth operation of wide-spread ballot-stuffing.

1. They “salted” the vote in rural areas in swing states like Wisconsin. Many small towns were reporting suspicious registrations. This is an great strategy because there were no flashing lights or big red flags. In addition to stuffing the ballot box in the big cities like Milwaukee and Racine, they planted extra votes around small towns in such a way as to be undetectable.

This is why they fought so hard on voter ID. Lax voter ID and early balloting enabled them to register by the carload and vote for Obama in small towns. The precincts still go Republican, but not by as much. The extra margin makes the difference in a 1 point race.

2. The beauty of this strategy is that you can narrow your effort and focus your resources to just those states (and counties) where it matters.

3. I look forward to a study of the “over-vote” for president in Wisconsin and Ohio. The over-vote is the number of ballots that had votes for president but none of the down-ticket candidates. This would be an indication of the salt the small town vote strategy. The “salted” votes would only have presidential votes because the financiers of this operation just want a federal win and don’t care about the rest.

4. In states with electronic voting machines, votes were flipped and stolen. Being wise in the ways of the world tells me that the temptation to build a “back-door” into voting software is overwhelmingly attractive because you can sell that access for a lot of money. Anecdotes of machines showing Obama when Romney was selected were reported. But that probably was only a part of it. The big stealing can go on after the voting is done but before it is counted. I can envision software that takes running vote totals for a candidate and then “flips” just enough votes for the Democrat to win, but not so many as to be suspicious.
5. Executing this strategy is expensive. It has to be planned carefully. Where to stuff and by how much so it isn't detectible has to be worked out. Organizing the carloads to travel from town to town is a logistical task. An operation of this sophistication takes professional expertise to plan and execute and that takes money. Enter Mr. Soros.

If votes are timestamped I sure would like to see that data; I would think normal votes would have some time spacing between casts, but changed or "flipped" electronically would be in large chunks with less than milliseconds between each cast.

Of course the big tell would how many votes were cast with a timestamp after the poles closed.

Also if they know how many registered voters were in a district and knew how many votes were cast at the close of the pole it would be easy to know how many did not vote or unused votes they could give to a candidate which could explain some of the 100% votes. And possibly why in Florida they had 141% voter turnout, the guy in charge of "flipping" did not do the math right.

 

[Aikouka]

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/evidence-adds-up-election-was-stolen-2495088.html

If this map is true there is no way in hell Obama could have got elected should have been a major landslide in the other direction.

Just looking at the areas that I know fairly well (Pennsylvania, New York and Alabama), it's pretty easy to pick out where those red areas lie... in the major cities.

The red dot in the middle of Alabama is covering Birmingham (Alabama's largest city), the red curved line goes from Tuscaloosa to Auburn, and the lower red dot is Montgomery.

In Pennsylvania, you have Pittsburgh to the left, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre in the north-east, Harrisburg closer toward the center and Philadelphia in the south-east.

In New York, the red looks like it's covering Binghamton, Ithaca, Syracuse, Albany, Plattsburgh, Rochester, Buffalo and this little ol' place called New York City.

You can complain as much as you want about the expansiveness of the blue, but it's mostly covering rural areas with a significantly sparser population.

EDIT:

Be aware that I assume an area is just colored a way if the party received a majority of the votes in that county. For example, the last time I looked, Obama only won about 30% of the vote in Alabama even though he "took" some of the larger areas.

 

[zinfamous]

yeah, see?

This is why We The People voted against you guys last week.

 

[Socio]

Just looking at the areas that I know fairly well (Pennsylvania, New York and Alabama), it's pretty easy to pick out where those red areas lie... in the major cities.

The red dot in the middle of Alabama is covering Birmingham (Alabama's largest city), the red curved line goes from Tuscaloosa to Auburn, and the lower red dot is Montgomery.

In Pennsylvania, you have Pittsburgh to the left, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre in the north-east, Harrisburg closer toward the center and Philadelphia in the south-east.

In New York, the red looks like it's covering Binghamton, Ithaca, Syracuse, Albany, Plattsburgh, Rochester, Buffalo and this little ol' place called New York City.

You can complain as much as you want about the expansiveness of the blue, but it's mostly covering rural areas with a significantly sparser population.

EDIT:

Be aware that I assume an area is just colored a way if the party received a majority of the votes in that county. For example, the last time I looked, Obama only won about 30% of the vote in Alabama even though he "took" some of the larger areas.

I am looking at Nevada for example, I just find it very difficult to believe two counties decide for the whole state.