Was Arnold S really the greatest bodybuilder?

[RegaPlanet]

Arnnie was a natural, kinda like Lou Ferigno.

I hope you're kidding???

No seroius olympia contestant was ever or will ever be natural or even close to natural by any means.

 

[slycat]

most, kick-ass, over huge legs award had always gone to Tom Platz

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

He used to have the biggest biceps in the world. I think they were like softball size or something.

Not even close but he had great peaks.

He definitely had the best symmetry.

Not even close . . . old schoolers like Dickerson, Zane and modern light heavies like Shawn Ray, Chris Cormier (when he was light), Kevin Levrone (when he was light), Flex Wheeler (when he was light) all have much better shoulder to waist to thigh proportions than Arnold.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: slycat
most, kick-ass, over huge legs award had always gone to Tom Platz

ugh he looks freakish

 

[RegaPlanet]

and just another note... I've been training off and on seirously for 9yrs now and have never touched any steroids or the like. Even tho all those guys take steroids it still takes an unthought of amount of dedication and concentration to become as big and well rounded as they do. The fact that they do take steroids cannot be looked down upon. Sure it comes with high health risks but so does driving a racecar.

You can't just take steroids and be instantly big or look good. Still takes years and years of training to look anything like these guys on any scale. Steroids always come up when you see a big guy but that big guy trains just as hard, if not harder as any natural guy out there in the pro world.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Arnnie was a natural, kinda like Lou Ferigno.

Arnold was down with D-bol and the injectibles. He did not legitimize the sport but he certainly introduced it to a broader audience with Pumping Iron and then as Conan. Ferrigno had much better genes for muscles and might have surpassed Arnold's acclaim in the sport if he hadn't been tabbed for The Hulk.

 

[Looney]

Ronnie Coleman is one huge mofo, I have one of his training videos.

Ronnie Coleman was AWESOME 4-5 years ago... he had the best symmetry around. But now that he's using GH heavily, he's all grotesque now. That seems to be the trend in BBing these days, just get the biggest whatever you can, forget symmetry.

 

[TommyVercetti]

A body builder's lifestyle must be rather painful. Living with those huge muscles and going about daily activities probably isn't easy. I don't think most of these people can run fast. Finding clothes which fit probably gets harder too. But like any obsession/passion, there are drawbacks.

 

[LandRover]

Glad to see that you took the time to at least try spelling his last name...

Schwarzenegger

(And no, I didn't look it up)

 

[Aceshigh]

I always thought Flex Wheeler had the greatest physique. Not sure if he ever won the Olympia though. I know he won the Arnold Classic.

 

[XZeroII]

The reason was that he looked the best. He knew how to make his muscles look good, rather than just big. He didn't go for just size, but shape and that is why he dominated the competitions and why he got his movie break. It doesn't matter if you can bench 500lbs, if your muscles look ugly, you are not going to make it far (in the body building stuff, anyway)

 

[SnapIT]

I have always thought that the greatest bodybuilder is Lee Haney...

It's just personal preference though...

Early ninties Flex Wheeler is a contender too, Dorian Yates had the cruelest back of all times, the eagle (Platz) had legs like crazy, but overall, i pick Lee Haney...

Saw his last Mr O win, damn, that guy could pose...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic
He definitely had the best symmetry. As a large bodybuilder, he didn't look grotesque. Nowadays you have BB that are just grosteque... look at people like Dorian Yates, who is absolutely out of proportion, and like Dorian Yates, more BBs are having Protruding Guts Syndrome from the growth hormones they're using.

Check out Lee Haney, arnolds symmetry sucked compared to many guys, the man had no legs, none, whatsoever...

 

[Afro000Dude]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
A body builder's lifestyle must be rather painful. Living with those huge muscles and going about daily activities probably isn't easy. I don't think most of these people can run fast. Finding clothes which fit probably gets harder too. But like any obsession/passion, there are drawbacks.

It's not hard to find clothes - just walk around in a man-thong all the time.
Seriously, I'm all for being muscular and all, but taken to that extent is rather unattractive, especially on women.

 

[StageLeft]

At his particular time he was the best since he was Mr. Olympia several times. However others have held the title more times (Lee Haney though I don't know if anybody else has won more times since). And needless to say if you took arnie in his prime and put him on the stage today he'd be laughed off stage. It's hard to say who is the best but there is good argument for him - when a person thinks of bodybuilding (the layman) who do they think of? It's not Lee Haney or Dorian Yates or Flex Wheeler or any other famous bodbuilder - it's Arnold. When he got into the sport it was relatively new. Now millions of people do it, but he had a big influence on its popularity. He came from a humble background from Austria and became a major world wide celebrity and bodybuilding was the exact reason this happened. In every movie he's been in you can see his muscles even today.

The greatest bodybuilder ever in the pure sense is going to be the current Mr. Olympia or whomever has the biggest most symetrical build now, and due to drug and excercise and diet science they get bigger every year, but if you see BBing as more than that then Arnold could easily be considered the greatest ever.

 

[SnapIT]

Steroids have been around since the forties, don't kid yourself, arnie was a juicer, just like zane (the chemist) Lou, Franco and the rest of the guys...

There is no testing in Pro BB, just like there is no testing in Pro Boxing...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
At his particular time he was the best since he was Mr. Olympia several times. However others have held the title more times. And needless to say if you took arnie in his prime and put him on the stage today he'd be laughed off stage. It's hard to say who is the best but there is good argument for him - when a person thinks of bodybuilding (the layman) who do they think of? It's not Lee Haney or Dorian Yates or Flex Wheeler or any other famous bodbuilder - it's Arnold. When he got into the sport it was relatively new. Now millions of people do it, but he had a big influence on its popularity. He came from a humble background from Austria and became a major world wide celebrity and bodybuilding was the exact reason this happened. In every movie he's been in you can see his muscles even today.

The greatest bodybuilder ever in the pure sense is going to be the current Mr. Olympia or whomever has the biggest most symetrical build now, and due to drug and excercise and diet science they get bigger every year, but if you see BBing as more than that then Arnold could easily be considered the greatest ever.

I agree, no bodybuilder has ever done more for the sport than Arnold, if it wasn't for him, it would be pretty dead by now...

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Steroids have been around since the forties, don't kid yourself, arnie was a juicer, just like zane (the chemist) Lou, Franco and the rest of the guys...

There is no testing in Pro BB, just like there is no testing in Pro Boxing...

Yeah they were juicers and Arnold has admitted to it, though if you compared the drug regimen Arnold was on at his prime it would be dwarfed by all the loads of junk people these days juice up with. I think at his peak he was 6,2" and 240 lbs or something. Nowadays you get guys who are much shorter and much heavier.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Afro000Dude

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
A body builder's lifestyle must be rather painful. Living with those huge muscles and going about daily activities probably isn't easy. I don't think most of these people can run fast. Finding clothes which fit probably gets harder too. But like any obsession/passion, there are drawbacks.

It's not hard to find clothes - just walk around in a man-thong all the time.
Seriously, I'm all for being muscular and all, but taken to that extent is rather unattractive, especially on women.

Juliette Bergman is one hot bodybuilding chick, but yea, there are many women who look like crap, overgrown and sporting manly looks...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Steroids have been around since the forties, don't kid yourself, arnie was a juicer, just like zane (the chemist) Lou, Franco and the rest of the guys...

There is no testing in Pro BB, just like there is no testing in Pro Boxing...

Yeah they were juicers and Arnold has admitted to it, though if you compared the drug regimen Arnold was on at his prime it would be dwarfed by all the loads of junk people these days juice up with. I think at his peak he was 6,2" and 240 lbs or something. Nowadays you get guys who are much shorter and much heavier.

True, and i don't think the juice is a big thing compared to insulin/gh stacks of today, it's scary what people do to their body...

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Steroids have been around since the forties, don't kid yourself, arnie was a juicer, just like zane (the chemist) Lou, Franco and the rest of the guys...

There is no testing in Pro BB, just like there is no testing in Pro Boxing...

Yeah they were juicers and Arnold has admitted to it, though if you compared the drug regimen Arnold was on at his prime it would be dwarfed by all the loads of junk people these days juice up with. I think at his peak he was 6,2" and 240 lbs or something. Nowadays you get guys who are much shorter and much heavier.

True, and i don't think the juice is a big thing compared to insulin/gh stacks of today, it's scary what people do to their body...

I can't remember what mag but a few years back I saw a stack that some professional was on and it was just absolutely brutal! He was on a mountain of different chemicals stacking left right and center and taking some to alleviate the side effects of others and what not. I also read that these guys don't even necessarily like how big they are and want to take all this junk but they basically have to to stay competitive. Sure you can go to the all natural competitions but the big money and fame is in the Olympia and others like that and they have to juice like mad!

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: SnapIT
Steroids have been around since the forties, don't kid yourself, arnie was a juicer, just like zane (the chemist) Lou, Franco and the rest of the guys...

There is no testing in Pro BB, just like there is no testing in Pro Boxing...

Yeah they were juicers and Arnold has admitted to it, though if you compared the drug regimen Arnold was on at his prime it would be dwarfed by all the loads of junk people these days juice up with. I think at his peak he was 6,2" and 240 lbs or something. Nowadays you get guys who are much shorter and much heavier.

True, and i don't think the juice is a big thing compared to insulin/gh stacks of today, it's scary what people do to their body...

I can't remember what mag but a few years back I saw a stack that some professional was on and it was just absolutely brutal! He was on a mountain of different chemicals stacking left right and center and taking some to alleviate the side effects of others and what not. I also read that these guys don't even necessarily like how big they are and want to take all this junk but they basically have to to stay competitive. Sure you can go to the all natural competitions but the big money and fame is in the Olympia and others like that and they have to juice like mad!

Probably in mm2k, they paid some bb to tell them... crazy stuff... different kinds of veterinarie steroids, insulin/gh, nolvadex, LH, esiclene for peaks... It has gone beyond healthy bodybuilding a long time ago...

It's sad, but i do think that lately, the judges have started to punish the worst cases (except for Ronnie boy, who looks like he just swallowed a sack of potatos)...

It has to return to normality sometime, hopefully soon...

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Judgement
Well the fact that he is one of the only body builders to be able to cross over into movies and acting, despite his horrible acting ability should be a testament to how influential he was/is as a bodybuilder.

the guy from the incredible hulk was also in movies and he was a Mr O, i think

 

[Angrymarshmello]

You can't compare Arnold to today's body builders, especially with all the supplements and other more advanced knowledge we have now.

Arnold did a lot for the sport and everyone respects him for that

 

[Stojakapimp]

I'm sorry, but he takes the cake